Why I hate neurotypicals:

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My problem is that what people consider 'personality' is determined by the parietal lobe, not the frontal lobe. The frontal lobe determines our ethics, compassion, and intellect. The parietal lobe determines how we move, talk, and socialize. When people make friends, or go on a date the thing I hear most often is the word 'chemistry'.

That is where I turn red. The word 'chemistry' is synonymous with our parietal lobe. Our parietal lobe is no different from that of an ape. Our frontal lobe is what makes us human. I've been tormented and humiliated my entire life because of how I move, talk, and socialize.

When will people learn to judge me for human traits, rather than acting like a bloody chimp? When will people begin to choose their partners on human traits, rather than acting like monkeys? I'm about ready to mark off most of the 'homosapien' population as apes unworthy of the label of 'human'. I'm tired of feeling buried alive, as if everyone's ready to slit my throat if the chance to get away with it arises.

Where are the humans? Where is my own kind? I'm tired of these insolent monkeys. They're trashing everything that hasn't been destroyed already.

You say you Hate neurotypicals.
However in a more subjectively rational context,
is it the NT individual or the NT disease in general that you so hate?

They have the capacity to choose, and they choose these parietal behaviors as preferable to something more evolved. In that, I'd have to say both the individual and the disease.

What's wrong with being an ape?

Anyway, don't people come to appreciate those frontal-lobe traits once they get to know you? That's what my experience has been. And if they don't, and that's the thing that's important to you, then why do you want to know them anyway? Don't hate them, just forget them.

After they've become a friend or lover to someone, yes. They don't use that to do any decision making though. Really, people choose the ape characteristics first and then use that as extra social credit, which is still an apish tendency.

No, it’s not. A human being born without a frontal lobe is still a human being, and frontal lobes no more “make humans human” than do parietal lobes.

I am guessing mostly by human rather than non human primates.
It seems as though they already are judging you on human traits, for instance how you talk and socialize.

They already do.

Well you would be entirely wrong and really very silly and confused to do so. The word human refers to a specific species. If in your view that species is by and large dismal in some respects or others, then the word refers to something that has that value to you. The word itself is not magical and in many languages has no meaning whatsoever. The value you attributing to the word (such that you suggest the species it refers to does not merit it) is derived entirely from the value of the species to which it applies. The word has no value and meaning but to refer to that species. If you find that species unworthy, how on earth do you figure the word referring to it has some merit other than to make it easy to refer to that species?

Humans are of course apes, great ones at that.

It’s most unfortunate that you feel that way. I do not think your mode of dealing with this is entirely productive or likely to result in any improvement in this area at all.

People are people, their neuro-functioning is no more volitional than your own, and yours is no less so than theirs. Why instead of feeling as you do, do you not just change your neuro-functioning to match theirs? Could it be because this is not reasonable to expect? Apply this to humans generally. We function in accordance with our neuro-functioning and there are limitations to volition’s influence over that.


You seem to have formed some very odd views. Humans are all around you and if you find them so problematic, where did you get this idea of humans that you think the real and existing population of humans do not match up to? If not the population you are complaining about and deem unworthy of the word “human”, what exactly is it you think “humans” (the ones who are or would be worthy of the word) are?

Some people are just shallow and insensitive jerks. I'm not sold on the idea that being NT has anything to do with it. There are still a lot of "good" human beings out there from all different neurological backrounds. Carrying deep-seated hatred towards anyone could cause you great suffering.

Many people are uncomfortable with differences. They feel embarrassed or awkward and they are used to bonding with each other based on ways they are alike and sometimes they bond while discussing ways others are different from them and why these differences aren't as good. It gives them a feeling of security and confidence.
"We are better than so and so and we should pe proud and happy we are us and not them" .
Sometimes when people mature they become more accepting and feel guilty about treating others badly while some never feel guilty at all and feel justified their whole lives, like it's the right way to be and perfectly normal and nicer people are in the wrong for being what they call "PC".
Finding individuals who are accepting of differences is what plagues people of all kinds. That's why minorities say they are discriminated against. It's the same situation. People seem to be predisposed to discriminate. It's the norm, not the exception.

If you had replace "neurotypical" with "Asperger's" in that first post, wouldn't it look awfully like prejudice?

Think about that.

They are not all alike. Some of them are jerks, but some Aspies are jerks too.

Besides, we are all monkeys--well, technically, "great apes"--not just the NTs.

Definitely. We've got a strong grunt and scratch contingency here... most decidely thinking with their scrotal lobes.

And we're not great apes, we're rather sorry apes. Stacked up against a lowland gorilla or an orangutan, we're pitiful.

Humanity is wired like that. C'est la vie. And don't worry. Parietal lobes may snog, but when the frontal lobe of one person messes up, the other person's frontal lobe overrides it in no time flat.

So what I'm saying is.."people are stupid, until they need to smarten up"

For instance..

Girl dates boy. Boy is awesome. Very suave, no fear, no hesitation, very "charming"(Powerful, gentle)...Then he asks her to steal something.

Girl with defective frontal lobe does so. They make evil babies.

Girl with proper frontal lobe jerks her knee upward, runs off cussing.


Example two.

Boy sees girl. Girl sees boy. They flirt a bit, have fun. Want to have some one-time fun.

Boy sees photo. Girl is dating.

Proper boy leaves to mate with proper girl.

Not-so-proper-boy makes not-so-proper babies that eventually, years down the line, get themselves killed by being stupid.


That years down the line? That's now.

Fixed

The term "NT" doesn't mean anything to me. We're all people.

Well, yeah, NTs have quite a lot of variation amongst themselves, too; most poeple have something about them that's atypical. The most ultra-NT girl I know is physically atypical, for example. There are people closer to the norm than most, and people who aren't candidates for any sort of diagnosis; and those are the people we are talking about when we say "NT"--the people at the center of everything, who, if they play their cards right, are the people who are most likely to be able to understand divergent brain types simultaneously and thus serve as great connectors and communicators.

Now Now Tiger,
The OP clearly stated that he did not hate just the NT
He said that he also hates the NT disease - so play fair now
C'mon, you gotta give the disease some credit you know, diseases have feelings too.

Yeah, well, don't call it "NT disease"; call it "elitism" or "prejudice"--and it's not like you don't get that with AS people, too.

I remember when my littlest sister was younger, and we were in the grocery store when we passed an black family with a toddler about my sister's age; and she pointed at the kid, smiling like she'd just made a wonderful discovery, and shouted, "Look! A chocolate baby!"

Silly as it is, that's the sort of attitude I wish we would have about each other, about other groups. My little sister didn't have a clue about any of the negative sterotypes white people have about black people; and she just saw a pretty little black toddler and pointed out she looked just like chocolate! If we could somehow bring ourselves to neither consider those differences inferior, nor tiptoe around them as though they were horrors to be avoided, then maybe we might learn to celebrate those differences like my little sister was doing when she innocently pointed out another child's skin color.