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Danielismyname
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21 Dec 2009, 9:10 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogOKGg4h21M[/youtube]



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21 Dec 2009, 9:28 pm

Hey Daniel, you're awesome! :)



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21 Dec 2009, 10:11 pm

:)

I have fun....

Wrapped up in my humour is blunt reality, and the reality that's my autism shows itself as a person staring into oblivion and unresponsive in a social situation.



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21 Dec 2009, 10:19 pm

actually a very well made point! I think people don't understand that we do this a lot and it has no significance other than the fact we are thinking.



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21 Dec 2009, 10:19 pm

"I KNOW" it just happened to me IRL, "unresponsive in social situations".

And I'm tired of feeling like a failure at it too.

Hang in there. It's good to find whatever humor possible and not take these things too seriously. But it's easier said than done when it really matters. :D



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21 Dec 2009, 11:18 pm

conan wrote:
actually a very well made point! I think people don't understand that we do this a lot and it has no significance other than the fact we are thinking.


I do it in a social [and often mechanical] situation because I have nothing social "up there", so I'm...in another world, a world of firearms, lots and lots of firearms. ;)

"A lack of social reciprocation" is dead right.



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21 Dec 2009, 11:23 pm

yes such a good point daniel, i do this too, i stare off into space unaware of anything going on around me, i sorta jus got stuck in the abyss i call it, where mentally im jus not there, but physically i am, tis weird, anwyays cool video!


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22 Dec 2009, 7:02 am

Thanks for cheering me up. :)



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22 Dec 2009, 7:35 am

Cool. :)

I've got about a zillion and one ideas in my mind for similar shorts poking fun at everyone involved in the politics of ASDs, in addition to ASDs themselves.



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22 Dec 2009, 7:38 am

Danielismyname wrote:
conan wrote:
actually a very well made point! I think people don't understand that we do this a lot and it has no significance other than the fact we are thinking.


I do it in a social [and often mechanical] situation because I have nothing social "up there", so I'm...in another world, a world of firearms, lots and lots of firearms. ;)

"A lack of social reciprocation" is dead right.


I do it too. I get bored and prefer the content of my own mind. People tell me, sometimes you just " go away."


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22 Dec 2009, 10:34 am

This is very similar to my autism until I reached the age of 10-12 years, except that I was constantly flapping as well. After I started interacting with the outside world I became quite verbal and felt compelled to constantly make comments when around others conversing (often only tangentially related). I suppose had I been on a special diet at the time, that would have been considered the miracle cure.

I still spend a lot of my time lost in thoughts and, if I actually wanted to, I could get a lot more accomplished if this wasn't the case. I adore being lost in my thoughts though. It is a very pleasant world.

Your comment, Daniel, about "freaking boring" made me wonder if you were referring to your own feelings. I have read others here speak of being bored, but I never feel that way.



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23 Dec 2009, 12:08 am

wildgrape wrote:
Your comment, Daniel, about "freaking boring" made me wonder if you were referring to your own feelings. I have read others here speak of being bored, but I never feel that way.


Nah, I'm just showing how boring it is to view the reality of [my] autism on the outside. Inside, I have a lovely world of obsession (good and bad), whereas people on the outside don't see it as I don't communicate it to them (I literally can't, whether I want to or not).



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23 Dec 2009, 12:21 am

"Not talking" is not the same as "not there"!

You'd think they'd get that eventually, but apparently NTs are caught up in the idea that they can read everybody the same way, so they use their "reading another NT" coding to read us... which really doesn't work any more than reading German while convinced it must be English and unaware that languages other than English even exist. Not that they can't learn; NT family members of autistics do it all the time; but lots of them don't even realize that it's necessary to learn how different kinds of people communicate in the first place.

Apparently how my autism looks to other people is a very smart, scattered, hyper sort of person... my stimming comes across as hyper or nervous depending on the interpretation. If I'm not lecturing on a special interest I can be taken as ret*d, which isn't too far from the truth in the actual area of socializing. Oddly enough, it is almost better when people think I'm not smart, because people who know you're smart expect you to be able to do lots of things, some of which you might not be able to do. Like, "You're too smart to miss me telling you to stop talking about surgery at the dinner table!" when they never said any such thing, just telepathed it and expected you to be able to listen. But then, people who think you aren't smart will also expect you not to be able to do lots of things which you can do, and will often be really flummoxed when you unexpectedly bring out the random facts you learned about string theory the other day.


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23 Dec 2009, 7:43 am

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Nah, I'm just showing how boring it is to view the reality of [my] autism on the outside.


Ok, gotcha. It is perhaps a good message to send; maybe we would be better off if people were merely bored by our presence. In reality, those unaware of autism are rarely indifferent to our unusual mannerisms. At best they are intrigued, and some are troubled (some deeply) by outward behavior that they don't understand.

The amount of attention my pronounced autistic mannerisms attracted when I was young was very unpleasant. As people learn more about autism, our special mannerisms, or lack of interaction, should become more easily accepted.



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23 Dec 2009, 8:00 am

Callista wrote:
"Not talking" is not the same as "not there"!

You'd think they'd get that eventually, but apparently NTs are caught up in the idea that they can read everybody the same way, so they use their "reading another NT" coding to read us... which really doesn't work any more than reading German while convinced it must be English and unaware that languages other than English even exist. Not that they can't learn; NT family members of autistics do it all the time; but lots of them don't even realize that it's necessary to learn how different kinds of people communicate in the first place.

Apparently how my autism looks to other people is a very smart, scattered, hyper sort of person... my stimming comes across as hyper or nervous depending on the interpretation. If I'm not lecturing on a special interest I can be taken as ret*d, which isn't too far from the truth in the actual area of socializing. Oddly enough, it is almost better when people think I'm not smart, because people who know you're smart expect you to be able to do lots of things, some of which you might not be able to do. Like, "You're too smart to miss me telling you to stop talking about surgery at the dinner table!" when they never said any such thing, just telepathed it and expected you to be able to listen. But then, people who think you aren't smart will also expect you not to be able to do lots of things which you can do, and will often be really flummoxed when you unexpectedly bring out the random facts you learned about string theory the other day.


Good post. I agree with you very much.

"Not talking" is not the same as "not there"... so true, and isn't it ironic that NTs think it's the same, when they are the ones who are able to read body language? And in said case it's suddenly only verbal language that matters? :?

The same as when people say about nonverbal people (autistic or not), that they "have no language"... hmmm I thought that body language was said to be even more important than the verbal one? :roll:
When I hear people say so, I always say "but they do have body language, right?" They have to agree with me. :)



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23 Dec 2009, 9:20 am

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