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18 Sep 2010, 3:15 pm

I have always, always had a problem with inertia. As a matter of fact, this problem has largely dictated my self view, which isn't good. I found this article and thought it was interesting and maybe some of you would like to read it.

http://www.autistics.org/library/inertia.html



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18 Sep 2010, 3:43 pm

Aimless wrote:
I have always, always had a problem with inertia. As a matter of fact, this problem has largely dictated my self view, which isn't good. I found this article and thought it was interesting and maybe some of you would like to read it.

http://www.autistics.org/library/inertia.html


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There are cases where a neurological stroke can cause a gap between wanting to do something and actually doing it.

Words - Terms

Actions
Alarm Clock
Ambition
Calendar
Commitment
Daily Actions
Day's Agenda
Decision to do a certain thing by a certain completion date
Drive
Initative
Motivation
Personal Initiative
Start Time - Stop Time
Time Clock
Work Schedule

and so on

Dyspraxia
Apraxia

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/apraxia/apraxia.htm

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Have asked whether there may be medicines which can temporarily improve aspects of motivation including the ability to complete a task.

There is some evidence that the central nervous system stimulants - alerting agents (like coffee, caffeine compounds, Ritalin, Dexedrine, Adderall and so on) - can do this for a few users (not everyone). None of the meds are cures.

In many cases, the underlying cause seems to be a small gap or a weak connection in a part of the brain/mind.

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http://www.daytimer.com/birk/

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Also, Parkinson's (movement)

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/park ... isease.htm



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18 Sep 2010, 3:49 pm

It's the most frustrating part of my life and the hardest to explain to someone who doesn't have the same problem. I grew to think of myself as stupid and lazy and could never adequately answer someone who wanted to know why I haven't accomplished more. I thought it was interesting about how different parts of the brain are used in deciding to do something and then actually doing it.



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18 Sep 2010, 3:55 pm

Is this different from aboulia?



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18 Sep 2010, 3:58 pm

Aimless wrote:
It's the most frustrating part of my life and the hardest to explain to someone who doesn't have the same problem. I grew to think of myself as stupid and lazy and could never adequately answer someone who wanted to know why I haven't accomplished more. I thought it was interesting about how different parts of the brain are used in deciding to do something and then actually doing it.


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Agree with you. It can be very difficult to try to explain to people. The following is one of the few sites I've found which attempts to address aspects of this (personal initiative) in great detail:

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http://www.ott.zynet.co.uk/polio/lincol ... /nyas.html

(Black and white brain illustrations)(Aspects of gross and fine motor control)

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Sports concussions for some persons can cause major difficulties at some point with ideas like personal initiative:

http://www.sportsconcussions.org/



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18 Sep 2010, 3:59 pm

wornlight wrote:
Is this different from aboulia?


I have never heard of that but I just googled it quickly. I will read about it. Is it considered psychological or neurological?



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18 Sep 2010, 4:03 pm

Neurological.



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18 Sep 2010, 4:04 pm

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It's the most frustrating part of my life and the hardest to explain to someone who doesn't have the same problem. I grew to think of myself as stupid and lazy and could never adequately answer someone who wanted to know why I haven't accomplished more. I thought it was interesting about how different parts of the brain are used in deciding to do something and then actually doing it.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_making

http://www.mindtools.com/pages/main/newMN_TED.htm

http://www.naphill.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_functions



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18 Sep 2010, 4:08 pm

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It's the most frustrating part of my life and the hardest to explain to someone who doesn't have the same problem. I grew to think of myself as stupid and lazy and could never adequately answer someone who wanted to know why I haven't accomplished more. I thought it was interesting about how different parts of the brain are used in deciding to do something and then actually doing it.


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Agree with you. It can be very difficult to try to explain to people. The following is one of the few sites I've found which attempts to address aspects of this (personal initiative) in great detail:

Brain illustrations

Lincolnshire

http://www.ott.zynet.co.uk/polio/lincol ... /nyas.html



(Black and white brain illustrations)(Aspects of gross and fine motor control)

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Sports concussions for some persons can cause major difficulties at some point with ideas like personal initiative:

http://www.sportsconcussions.org/


Thanks for the links.



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18 Sep 2010, 4:10 pm

wornlight wrote:
Is this different from aboulia?


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My guess is that it can be, in a few cases, a very mild form of aboulia possibly. However, aboulia is often presented as being easily seen on brain scans and it is my understanding some of these very subtle difficulties with inertia, personal initiative, and so on involved with autism are very real but so very small they escape detection on brain scans.

So there are major differences:

Aboulia is often described as easily seen on brain scans (year 2010).

Autism is often described as not being detectable on standard brain scans (year 2010).



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18 Sep 2010, 4:13 pm

Aimless wrote:
I have always, always had a problem with inertia. As a matter of fact, this problem has largely dictated my self view, which isn't good. I found this article and thought it was interesting and maybe some of you would like to read it.

http://www.autistics.org/library/inertia.html


Fantastic article! Gets right to the core of what I've been trying to get our kid's school staff to understand. Thanks for posting it.


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18 Sep 2010, 4:16 pm

I am going to try some of her suggestions on preparing to prepare, so to speak.



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18 Sep 2010, 4:21 pm

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pgd wrote:
Aimless wrote:
It's the most frustrating part of my life and the hardest to explain to someone who doesn't have the same problem. I grew to think of myself as stupid and lazy and could never adequately answer someone who wanted to know why I haven't accomplished more. I thought it was interesting about how different parts of the brain are used in deciding to do something and then actually doing it.


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Agree with you. It can be very difficult to try to explain to people. The following is one of the few sites I've found which attempts to address aspects of this (personal initiative) in great detail:

Brain illustrations

Lincolnshire

http://www.ott.zynet.co.uk/polio/lincol ... /nyas.html



(Black and white brain illustrations)(Aspects of gross and fine motor control)

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Sports concussions for some persons can cause major difficulties at some point with ideas like personal initiative:

http://www.sportsconcussions.org/


Thanks for the links.


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The only two books I recall which address this idea of gross and fine motor control becoming temporarily controlled activity (personal initiative) due to using an effective medicine (not a cure) are:

Awakenings book by Oliver Sacks (about L-dopa - a Parkinson's medicine)

and

How To (understand) book (1981) about ADHD Inattentive by C. Thomas Wild (about caffeine, primarily, an alertness aid and three FDA approved medicines: Tirend, NoDoz, and Bonine)(Tirend and NoDoz are alertness aids; Bonine is an anti-motion medicine).



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18 Sep 2010, 4:50 pm

This has been a mystery to me until a few years ago when I finally understood what people did naturally really had a gazillion parts, they just don't know it consciously. Doesn't take more than one link to not work and you will be sort of stuck. I worked hard to try to unstuck myself and some tricks work a bit, but it is a fragile system that only takes a bit of illness/problems and I end up under the threshold again.



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18 Sep 2010, 5:08 pm

frag wrote:
This has been a mystery to me until a few years ago when I finally understood what people did naturally really had a gazillion parts, they just don't know it consciously. Doesn't take more than one link to not work and you will be sort of stuck. I worked hard to try to unstuck myself and some tricks work a bit, but it is a fragile system that only takes a bit of illness/problems and I end up under the threshold again.


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Agree with you 100%.



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18 Sep 2010, 5:19 pm

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It's the most frustrating part of my life and the hardest to explain to someone who doesn't have the same problem. I grew to think of myself as stupid and lazy and could never adequately answer someone who wanted to know why I haven't accomplished more. I thought it was interesting about how different parts of the brain are used in deciding to do something and then actually doing it.


Me too.

Good article, thank you Aimless.


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