NEW CATEGORY IN DSM5!Social communication disorder

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14 Dec 2010, 12:26 am

i was just looking on the dsm 5 updates and saw as of early this month there is another new category ! !! Social communication disorder !
here is there criteria!!

A. Social Communication Disorder (SCD) is an impairment of pragmatics and is diagnosed based on difficulty in the social uses of verbal and nonverbal communication in naturalistic contexts, which affects the development of social relationships and discourse comprehension and cannot be explained by low abilities in the domains of word structure and grammar or general cognitive ability.
B. The low social communication abilities result in functional limitations in effective communication, social participation, academic achievement, or occupational performance, alone or in any combination.
C. Rule out Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). Autism Spectrum Disorder by definition encompasses pragmatic communication problems, but also includes restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests or activities as part of the autism spectrum. Therefore, ASD needs to be ruled out for SCD to be diagnosed.
D. Symptoms must be present in early childhood (but may not become fully manifest until social demands exceed limited capacities).


here is the link
http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevisions/Pages/proposedrevision.aspx?rid=489

by the way they describe it in the rationale section it sounds as if tis is the equivilant to non-verbal learning disability



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14 Dec 2010, 12:53 am

Ravenclawgurl wrote:
i was just looking on the dsm 5 updates and saw as of early this month there is another new category ! !! Social communication disorder !
here is there criteria!!

A. Social Communication Disorder (SCD) is an impairment of pragmatics and is diagnosed based on difficulty in the social uses of verbal and nonverbal communication in naturalistic contexts, which affects the development of social relationships and discourse comprehension and cannot be explained by low abilities in the domains of word structure and grammar or general cognitive ability.
B. The low social communication abilities result in functional limitations in effective communication, social participation, academic achievement, or occupational performance, alone or in any combination.
C. Rule out Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). Autism Spectrum Disorder by definition encompasses pragmatic communication problems, but also includes restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests or activities as part of the autism spectrum. Therefore, ASD needs to be ruled out for SCD to be diagnosed.
D. Symptoms must be present in early childhood (but may not become fully manifest until social demands exceed limited capacities).


here is the link
http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevisions/Pages/proposedrevision.aspx?rid=489

by the way they describe it in the rationale section it sounds as if tis is the equivilant to non-verbal learning disability


So that's everyone in the world then....



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14 Dec 2010, 1:34 am

LOL Asperger's syndrome 2.0

Sorry guys. :(


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14 Dec 2010, 2:15 am

This just sounds like a way to compensate for PDD-NOS. I'm sure the people who are worried about not fulfilling the new criteria will be stuck with this label; or it will be one of those dusty labels that are little-heard-of and deleted next time around.



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14 Dec 2010, 3:23 am

Ravenclawgurl wrote:
i was just looking on the dsm 5 updates and saw as of early this month there is another new category ! !! Social communication disorder !
here is there criteria!!

A. Social Communication Disorder (SCD) is an impairment of pragmatics and is diagnosed based on difficulty in the social uses of verbal and nonverbal communication in naturalistic contexts, which affects the development of social relationships and discourse comprehension and cannot be explained by low abilities in the domains of word structure and grammar or general cognitive ability.
B. The low social communication abilities result in functional limitations in effective communication, social participation, academic achievement, or occupational performance, alone or in any combination.
C. Rule out Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). Autism Spectrum Disorder by definition encompasses pragmatic communication problems, but also includes restricted, repetitive patterns of behavior, interests or activities as part of the autism spectrum. Therefore, ASD needs to be ruled out for SCD to be diagnosed.
D. Symptoms must be present in early childhood (but may not become fully manifest until social demands exceed limited capacities).


here is the link
http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevisions/Pages/proposedrevision.aspx?rid=489

by the way they describe it in the rationale section it sounds as if tis is the equivilant to non-verbal learning disability


The C item applies to me. I don't have any of the ASD traits, as far as I'm concerned. But this whole disorder is slightly vague. I think the people here who wonder if they have AS or any form of autism would be interested in reading this.

Where did you find this, RavenClawGirl?



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14 Dec 2010, 3:52 am

This makes no sense, theres already a diagnosis for social deficit.


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14 Dec 2010, 5:49 am

pensieve wrote:
LOL Asperger's syndrome 2.0


Probably yes.

In another place I wrote:

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How the DSM-6 will be? After all, that they are removing the labels used to diagnose "strange people with social problems": Asperger's will be gone, PDD/NOS will be gone, Schizoid PD will be gone,...

I suspect that they will find again the need to have a word for us...



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14 Dec 2010, 7:32 am

Oh, for f**k's sake...


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14 Dec 2010, 7:40 am

Then there is WDKWTFII Syndrome.

(We Don't Know What The f**k It Is)


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14 Dec 2010, 8:02 am

wavefreak58 wrote:
Then there is WDKWTFII Syndrome.

(We Don't Know What The f**k It Is)

:lol:


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14 Dec 2010, 10:07 am

Ravenclawgurl wrote:
i was just looking on the dsm 5 updates and saw as of early this month there is another new category ! !!


Where we look for that?

I found this link, but only have updates until May:

http://www.dsm5.org/Pages/RecentUpdates.aspx



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14 Dec 2010, 10:46 am

As far as the science of psychology goes, this is a good thing--now there's a way to categorize people with simple social deficits but not the widespread cognitive differences associated with autism. But in everyday life... this is not going to be very helpful. This group of people--the ones who only have problems socially--need a lot of the same things full-blown autistics need. Unless this disorder is listed as being associated with autism, they may have trouble fitting into the right categories in order to get those things.


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14 Dec 2010, 10:47 am

Its says, "impairment of pragmatics." What does that mean?



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14 Dec 2010, 10:48 am

In general this is where alot of PDD-NOS and NVLD will probably fall. Truth be told you can just throw out Autism Spectrum Disorder's diagnosis and use one and two. It is more clearly written, and more at the heart of the real issues involved to be honest.



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14 Dec 2010, 4:22 pm

theexternvoid wrote:
Its says, "impairment of pragmatics." What does that mean?
Speech has two parts to it. The first part is what the words mean, just plain as they are from the dictionary. Everything else is pragmatics:All the contexts, word-order, connotations, tones of voice, and other such "between the lines" meanings.


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14 Dec 2010, 4:29 pm

Callista wrote:
theexternvoid wrote:
Its says, "impairment of pragmatics." What does that mean?
Speech has two parts to it. The first part is what the words mean, just plain as they are from the dictionary. Everything else is pragmatics:All the contexts, word-order, connotations, tones of voice, and other such "between the lines" meanings.


I was very good in meaning, terrible in pragmatics.


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