Executive Dysfunction-I don't know what it means

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22 Dec 2010, 11:51 pm

I looked it up, but everything seems to explain it in "doctor-speak". I want to be in the loop because everyone else here seems to know what it means. So what is it?



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22 Dec 2010, 11:56 pm

I don't know what it means either, and I'd like an explanation in layman's terms as well.



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23 Dec 2010, 12:02 am

Executive function:

Good short term memory
Able to keep focus
Easily can shift attention
Juggling different tasks at once
Plan and be able to reach long term goals
Emotional control

Executive dysfunction is basically the opposite.

Chronic procrastination and impatience to achieve goals is a part of it. Disliking change and not being able to do more than one thing at a time. Lack of control over emotions. Also poor social skills may fall into this category too. I read awhile ago that the ability to detect sarcasm came from executive function. Perhaps the way we learn (needing to be shown how to do things) may be a part of executive dysfunction too.


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23 Dec 2010, 12:08 am

IdahoRose wrote:
I don't know what it means either, and I'd like an explanation in layman's terms as well.


Good to know I'm not the only one!



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23 Dec 2010, 12:10 am

Did what I say help?


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23 Dec 2010, 12:13 am

I've always thought of a business person when hearing the term, executive. A business person must be good at planning and scheduling and switch tasks with ease.

I don't know what good planning means. How could anyone have difficulty with something like planning? First you do this at this time then you do that.



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23 Dec 2010, 12:21 am

buryuntime wrote:
I've always thought of a business person when hearing the term, executive. A business person must be good at planning and scheduling and switch tasks with ease.

I don't know what good planning means. How could anyone have difficulty with something like planning? First you do this at this time then you do that.

It's just the many steps planning involves. You need to have good attention. You need a good working memory. You need to be good at knowing the right order to do things in. You must be good at juggling many tasks at once. Also, you must have a back up plan if what you planned to do fails. Sometimes people can just think those up on the spot.

People that have frontal lobe damage lose these skills and people that are born with different wiring struggle with these skills. I struggle every day with this stuff, on top of sensory issues.

The only way I can remember to do things is by writing myself a to-do list each day and ticking off those tasks I have completed. But I'm a procrastinator of the worse kind.


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23 Dec 2010, 12:40 am

I know what I need to do with multi-step tasks, but when it comes time to do it, I have difficulty separating each step out and perceive the task as an overwhelming blob of undifferentiated "task." I have difficulty just organizing the steps in an appropriate order if I do differentiate them, and can get easily sidetracked if I attempt to start.

I have to stop and list the steps I need to take and take each step individually. Preferably each step is as simple and straightforward as possible, or I'll get easily sidetracked by distractions. Well, I still can, but it reduces the chance.

A general to-do list also helps (like pensieve said). I've also set alerts on my computer to remind me to do things I have to do, which helps a lot.

Planning seems to be a pretty easy concept to me, but actually committing to and executing plans is far more difficult than it should be. My wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey sense also makes it difficult for me to deal with planning into the future, and I end up doing things that have immediate consequences and do not always plan well for future consequences (like I may spend $50 on a video game today without consideration for the things I needed more that I could have purchased instead).

I think this is executive dysfunction at work.



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23 Dec 2010, 1:02 am

Verdandi wrote:
My wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey sense

I love you.

I forgot to put time management in there. My sense of time is crazy. I don't know what the day of the week is usually or the correct date which can upset my planning process. I think I'll have at least two weeks to do something and it's more like 5 days.
My spending is under control but I usually spend more money than I should.


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23 Dec 2010, 1:11 am

Yeah, my time management is up to no good. I used to cope with it by always having a watch and trying to make sure clocks were always in line of sight when I didn't have one. Well, I still do, but I have my computer and a clock radio in my line of sight and I don't have to deal with public transportation so much anymore. I often forget the date and my favorite days to confuse for each other are Monday and Friday, and I spent much of today thinking it was Tuesday. My username is the one of the Norse Norns, or fates. "Verdandi" represents the present, because the past (Urd) and future (Skuld) are a bit abstract for me at times.

My spending is mostly under control (but I spend too much too) but I've gone through epic amounts of money in the past without even thinking about it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY_Ry8J_jdw[/youtube]

I've never heard a better description of my time sense.



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23 Dec 2010, 1:21 am

buryuntime wrote:
I've always thought of a business person when hearing the term, executive. A business person must be good at planning and scheduling and switch tasks with ease.

I don't know what good planning means. How could anyone have difficulty with something like planning? First you do this at this time then you do that.


^^There are entire disorders that involve difficulty or inability to plan. (Apraxia of speech is an example). Also any executive functioning problem will cause planning issues.

To the OP, executive dysfunction can involve many different things, depending on the damage (or immaturity) to the frontal lobe, or other areas of the brain. I learned in some of my classes that executive functioning is not fully intact until a person is 23. If you think about a typical teenager, you can get a good idea of what "dysfunction" may look like. Things like not understanding consequences (nothing bad can happen to me), acting impulsive, not sensing danger, trouble making decisions, trouble critically thinking through obstacles, trouble resisting temptation or trouble dealing with new situations. Those are some of the troubles one may have, along with attention and memory issues. Some people may stutter, or repeat themselves a lot because they cannot attend or monitor their own speech.



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23 Dec 2010, 1:29 am

I am textbook on this. Time is my greatest enemy and I am scared of making to-do lists or checking my bank account in case it depresses me. I am extremely impulsive. I've tried to deal with all this but in all honesty, being any different bores me. The thought of being organised and on time bores me despite it being a regular New Year's resolution. I've also found that the easier a task is the less likely it is going to be done. I think i must get an adrenalin buzz from running late or having a large task ahead of me despite it being stressful. I am ridiculously easily distracted.
It might simply be my personality but (after reading up a little) I think there might be a slight ADHD link. These things I need to find out



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23 Dec 2010, 1:58 am

Verdandi wrote:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vY_Ry8J_jdw[/youtube]

I've never heard a better description of my time sense.

Oh, hello David.
Maybe this means we can exist in all dimensions and we just get really confused in the measely 3rd dimension.


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23 Dec 2010, 2:00 am

Yeah, I've had a problem with understanding "executive dysfunctio" even after reading about it on this site.

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Executive function:

Good short term memory
Able to keep focus
Easily can shift attention
Juggling different tasks at once
Plan and be able to reach long term goals
Emotional control



From reading this I might have problems with executive function. Certainly with planning and reaching long term goals. I haven't ever even thought of contemplating long term goals. Part of that might be from large anxiety problems.

I have a question that I wanted to ask but wasn't sure it would make sense. The last few years I've started talking at work (not that I literally didn't talk. But I talked so little that it can still be brought up to me that I used to not talk. Not that I talk a lot now, or have a lot of "conversations", though.).
There's this guy that I work with somewhat even though I basically work alone. And I realize that I can talk about work to him and talk about a few things here and there but if I left the work environment and was with him it would cause me much anxiety to be normal and talk. I just know it would. I can also talk to my counselor, but if I were to leave the counseling environment and be somewhere else with him trying to talk, it would cause me even more anxiety. So it seems to me that there's something odd going on with me being able to have less anxiety in the environments which are under control, and people in certain roles, but if I happened to be outside of that environment I would be much more uncomfortable.

Does that have anything to do with executive dysfunction?



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23 Dec 2010, 2:07 am

Jediscraps wrote:
Yeah, I've had a problem with understanding "executive dysfunctio" even after reading about it on this site.

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Executive function:

Good short term memory
Able to keep focus
Easily can shift attention
Juggling different tasks at once
Plan and be able to reach long term goals
Emotional control



From reading this I might have problems with executive function. Certainly with planning and reaching long term goals. I haven't ever even thought of contemplating long term goals. Part of that might be from large anxiety problems.

I have a question that I wanted to ask but wasn't sure it would make sense. The last few years I've started talking at work (not that I literally didn't talk. But I talked so little that it can still be brought up to me that I used to not talk. Not that I talk a lot now, or have a lot of "conversations", though.).
There's this guy that I work with somewhat even though I basically work alone. And I realize that I can talk about work to him and talk about a few things here and there but if I left the work environment and was with him it would cause me much anxiety to be normal and talk. I just know it would. I can also talk to my counselor, but if I were to leave the counseling environment and be somewhere else with him trying to talk, it would cause me even more anxiety. So it seems to me that there's something odd going on with me being able to have less anxiety in the environments which are under control, and people in certain roles, but if I happened to be outside of that environment I would be much more uncomfortable.

Does that have anything to do with executive dysfunction?

It could. It could have a lot to do with not liking change. You feel comfortable around familiarity. How were you when you first went to these places?
It might be sensory stress too, especially if you're outside.
When the environment changes I can get distressed too. In fact I may have the same problem. I never realised it before.


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23 Dec 2010, 2:27 am

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It could. It could have a lot to do with not liking change. You feel comfortable around familiarity. How were you when you first went to these places?
It might be sensory stress too, especially if you're outside.
When the environment changes I can get distressed too. In fact I may have the same problem. I never realised it before.


It's mostly all inside work. I 'm not sure it's sensory but I know I'd feel more comfortable if I could wear sunglasses.
I've worked at the same place most of my adult life. I was constantly overwhelmed with my job all the time. I'd have the same routine every day and know what I had to do during the week which calmed me down to know that but any possible disruption caused discomfort, anxiety or significant irritability. A few years ago I starting talking to people at work. And in the last couple years I've gotten better since I'm more used to it now. I don't know how I'd handle it if I ever lost this job...

I definitely like familiarity. I wouldn't have thought I had a problem with change until just recently really.

Outside of the environment that I'm used to with most people, besides family (and possibly to some degree with them especially if I haven't seen them in awhile), I'd be uncomfortable and wouldn't be able to function as I would in the regular environment that I know them in ( it seems).