Anybody else feel like they are not really themselves?

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judelee
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30 Jan 2011, 3:51 am

I always feel like I am another person in this body, looking out and reacting to things, but it's not really me.
Is this 'zoning out' a safety thing that my brain decides to do? Does anyone else feel the same or experienced this? Is this normal for AS?



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30 Jan 2011, 4:05 am

That sounds like depersonalization (wiki link Depersonalization wiki). I have experienced it from time to time.


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30 Jan 2011, 4:28 am

Is this what AS people experience, or am I experiencing something not connected?



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30 Jan 2011, 6:22 am

I've felt that way in 2007 and 2008.


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30 Jan 2011, 6:43 am

judelee wrote:
Is this what AS people experience, or am I experiencing something not connected?


Even NTs feel dissociated at times.

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30 Jan 2011, 7:36 am

judelee wrote:
I always feel like I am another person in this body, looking out and reacting to things, but it's not really me.
Is this 'zoning out' a safety thing that my brain decides to do? Does anyone else feel the same or experienced this? Is this normal for AS?

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It's my understanding that some persons can have difficulty with adding words to the 2 words: I am.

I am: ____________________________ (fill in).

For example: Let the weak, say I am strong.

vs

Let the weak, say I am weak.

Let the weak, say I am [blank mind / petit/absence, etc. / whatever].

Other words: Cogito, ergo sum. Self-definition. Self-image. Bicameral mind. Alertness, levels of alertness. Coma. Sleep. Awake. Consciousness. Neurology, the many epilepsies, the ADHDs, brain injuries, sports concussions, attention deficit(s), and so on. (Incomplete list)

List of general values: - http://www.values.com/ -



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30 Jan 2011, 7:45 am

judelee wrote:
Anybody else feel like they are not really themselves?

For me, it is more like I have no idea who I actually am. I live inside this body in a two-dimensional world I do not understand ... and that is about the end of that. However, I do believe that is different from the "zoning out" (escapism) you have mentioned. I have occasionally done that also, but I see that as being more along the line of some kind of psychosis.


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30 Jan 2011, 8:59 am

This may be induced by autism social philosophy creating the inner-belief others are one construct and you and those somewhat like you are another construct thus social and psychological context in mental framework with it's acquired social beliefs. It becomes the N.T world with common N.T behavior and the subscribed group neuro-construct-ideology and social belief can be that's them and you and people sharing this belief are somehow detached from the rest of the world. This would go along the lines of socio-psychology and general sociology but I know that's not liked by many.

Just a theory about how such a condition might be induced and or further manifested.


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30 Jan 2011, 9:53 am

I've certainly felt it, but more like I was only myself and everything outside the bubble was not really real. I feel more integrated these days although ironically I am less social.



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30 Jan 2011, 10:00 am

ci wrote:
This may be induced by autism social philosophy creating the inner-belief others are one construct and you and those somewhat like you are another construct thus social and psychological context in mental framework with it's acquired social beliefs. It becomes the N.T world with common N.T behavior and the subscribed group neuro-construct-ideology and social belief can be that's them and you and people sharing this belief are somehow detached from the rest of the world. This would go along the lines of socio-psychology and general sociology but I know that's not liked by many.

Just a theory about how such a condition might be induced and or further manifested.

I believe my own "depersonalization" was with me at birth, but yes, I believe you have well-described something that can also happen to others ... and that is one reason why I am almost a bit glad no AS diagnosis was even available back in the '50s, '60s or '70s.


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30 Jan 2011, 11:55 am

I used to have that, after outside age of 7
and thru outside aged of 24, theheat stroke
at 15 made it worse.

When outside age was 24 I had to just let it
go and be me, weir dor not.

I am and always will be 7.


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30 Jan 2011, 12:34 pm

Yes all the time and I haven't been myself for the past year now :roll: Sometimes I think I am going crazy and I don't even know how to talk about it so seeing a therapist is out of the question.


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30 Jan 2011, 12:39 pm

I thought that was related to schizoaffective and schizophrenic disorders.


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30 Jan 2011, 2:13 pm

who are you, anyways?

who am I?

There is no fulfilling, concrete answer to this question. You are a conglomeration of what you do, what you say, what you think and what you make. You are human soup.

I like the quote, "In 5 years we will be the sum total of the people we've met and the books we've read."



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30 Jan 2011, 2:25 pm

eudaimonia wrote:
I like the quote, "In 5 years we will be the sum total of the people we've met and the books we've read."

Yes ... and then we will have knowledge of even more possible roles to be played in an ever-increasing number of scenarios ...

Maddening.


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30 Jan 2011, 4:06 pm

ci wrote:
This may be induced by autism social philosophy creating the inner-belief others are one construct and you and those somewhat like you are another construct thus social and psychological context in mental framework with it's acquired social beliefs. It becomes the N.T world with common N.T behavior and the subscribed group neuro-construct-ideology and social belief can be that's them and you and people sharing this belief are somehow detached from the rest of the world. This would go along the lines of socio-psychology and general sociology but I know that's not liked by many.

Just a theory about how such a condition might be induced and or further manifested.


Yes, I'd have to say obviously that is only developed or "induced" by a comparative mental organization.

As an example: I was aware that I was in a different orbit at 5 years . I observed that my thinking and behaviors were different from my classmates, in that I lacked the desire in communicating or associating . I was content to be alone and untethered.

In a simple thought experiment, I'd imagine that if everyone in 'kindergarten class' stuck to themselves, then there couldn't be any thoughts or feelings associated with a "depersonalization." You wouldn't feel displaced.



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