Scared of the Wrath of NTs

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They cant be very dangerous

they can spread rumors/gossip

they put you down in front of others
they can lie and tell managers and people in power to fire you

they can get you jumped

they can insult you skillfully

they live happier lives with more opportunities

I now just let NTs do what they got to do, i dont confront them becasue I fear them for their retaliation..

When im compared to an NT, i look like S***

I /delete these kind of people out of my life. Not everyone is a terrible gossiper or giving you some patronizing BS to make themselves feel better. It's sad but true, older people, unless they're feminazi's, tend to be understanding and accepting... Same age peers... Not so much... I have found...
They behave this way because THEY ARE INSECURE with their EGO and therefore openly attack others or talk amongst themseleves like this. It is THEIR flaw and in that respect consider yourself SUPERIOR to them.
A lot of "neurotypical behaviors" are extremely childish, and yet they are the ones who are so patronizing as if I am a child!! !
They are in fact the immature ones!
Ignore them!! !
Think of yourself as risen above them, genetically superior!! !
Their games are NOTHING to us but an outdated, primitive nuisance!! !
They are only happy on the surface, but they do not THINK and run with the HERD and do not establish a personal IDENTITY...
Delete them from your life!! ! Ignore people like this who want to make you feel like you are worthless compared to them!! ! Delete them!! !
Develop your talents and you will win in the end!! !

Thy fortune so much honour doth reserve thee,
One party and the other shall be hungry
For thee; but far from goat shall be the grass.

- Dante, The Divine Comedy: Inferno, Canto XV

I'll give you one success when I was working in the dept store pre-Christmas 2009.

I asked this guy's advice on how to do something on the register. He told me. But then when the customer was gone, he started going off how maybe I didn't have what it took for the job.

He walked away. I got angry. They teach us some stuff in training class, there's other stuff they don't teach us. I decided I needed to nip this in the bud. It occurred to me, he's trying to run off the new people. And it occurred to me that, I got him, in the sense that I have a brief valid complaint.

(Now, I'm a shorter man, 5'5" with nasal speech. Sometimes because of that, people don't take me seriously. But in my favor, I'm now in my mid 40s and because of that, people do tend to take me seriously.)

Some quiet time. He was there. I said, 'Hey, we need to talk. You were out of line. You don't need to be trying to run new people off. I'm going to need to talk to Ann. That's the right way to do it.'

Ann was one of the better managers. What I'm doing is telling him ahead of time. I'm being decent about it.

Now, I was not bluffing. I really meant it. But he responded so positively, even complimenting me on bravery for standing up to him (then trying to get points saying I should be like that with the customers, but I let that go), I decided I didn't need to talk to Ann. I had handled it on my own.

And I didn't have any further trouble with this guy.

Of course, it doesn't always work out this well. But I felt it was a chance worth taking. And I went with my anger, but I also kept on an even keel.

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This is kind of along lines of my method, take a medium step, observe feedback, take another medium step, etc., which might be patently obvious to other people, but to me it has been a breath of fresh air. Even if it's several medium steps I have planned, I can still kind of tack direction on the sailboat so to speak. Or, in poker terms I made a medium size bet and saw how it went.

Last edited by AardvarkGoodSwimmer on 31 Jul 2011, 3:11 pm, edited 2 times in total.

archraphael- what was Dante going on about there exactly- goats and grass ?

OP - NT's are not all that & aspie's can live perfectly happy lives.

Why has NT become a bogeyman term for behavior and antics that also frustrate and anger most NTs? While NT's refer to the kind of people you're describing as "jerks" and "trash", why do you insist on referring to them as NTs?

Referring to someone as a "bully", a "gossip", as "catty", as "petty", or as a "liar" convey the same message without making a blanket statement that lumps well over 90% of the population in with the troublemakers. And NTs who aren't bullies, gossips and liars will have no problem understanding what kind of person you're describing.

Unfortunately there are people out there who will walk all over you if they get the chance.

I used to be as scared as you are of people; it took therapy to get over a large portion of that. I still feel persecuted, and sometimes am, but I'm learning to tell the difference between my perceptions and reality.

The real secret is to know who you are and to accept it. You'll start to find that most NTs are actually trying to live decent lives and don't have time or inclination to put other people down. Only ten percent, roughly, of the population are truly bad people; others are just insecure.

I totally agree with this. Not all NTs are like this, and not all NTs are to be feared.

Exactly, me too! One time I went to a small local carnival in my town with my friend and her BF, and I felt like a 5 year old with them! I literally felt like their child because they seemed a bit more mature! I was like ,"I wanna go on this ride, and this ride, and that ride", they only went on 2. It was mainly because of their weight, and they couldn`t fit on a lot of them like I can, and I felt so bad But they didn`t seem like carnival people in the first place.

2 days before that I went to that same carnival with my brother`s friend who is really cool, and she is 30, so we went on the skydive and I cried like a baby! I had a horrible panic attack! I don`t like going upside down like that but I didn`t think it was gonna be that bad. Anyway I felt like her child too LOL! I was holding on to her and screaming and crying in her ear! She was trying to comfort me but I was a wreck!'

I get easily intimidated by NT`s though! Always did. I don`t trust many of them.

I think neurotypicals can be intimidating in the same way an an intelligent person can be intimidating; they possess an innate power we cannot defend ourselves against. In a particular sphere of life, they were born able and we were not.

Meeting an NT is like encountering someone who is carrying a gun; under the wrong circumstances, we could be at their mercy.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I MEAN,

However, the challenge of maintaining our mental health as autistics is to learn to believe in good people; to learn to trust despite our vulnerability.

No thanks already tried that

The measure of a hero is how much pain he will endure in the process of reaching the happiness he deserves.

I know I will be hurt by NT's; so will you Panic, and everyone else on this site. You must stand up and rejoin the fight for our dignity and our joy.

no thanks when you cant think as good as an NT, it = fail,

PEOPLE can be a jerk. It's nothing to do with AS or NT, it's to do with being human IMO.

I can see how you feel, but just because we have AS and they don't doesn't make us worse off. They have an upper hand in some situations, we in others. When it comes down to it, we're all just human.

We make incredibly loyal friends, we can mimic the behaviour of others brilliantly, we have the ability to focus in on one thing that can provide us complete solace and happiness (I wonder how many NTs wish they had a passion like that!?) and collect information on it, even becoming employable because of it.