People on wrongplanet are limiting my free speech.

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When ever I post on the boards about my lifestyle, or about my feelings, it turns into a slam fest against me, and if I try to defend myself, or ask people to stop offending me, I’m in the wrong and limiting their free speech.

I am not the only person who has experianced this, and it has happened to me on several occasions, for example, I made a post on Sept 11th, as a remeberence to my uncle, and the others who died on that faithful day, and people used it as a platform to slam me.

I also made a post in the mature forum in response to the compleatly un-mature posts, and it was also used as an excuse to slam me.

In my opinion, the mods of the boards are not doing a good enough job to stop harrasment, and something needs to be done.

I do not see how people can have the nerve to say what ever they want about me, but if I try to defend myself, everyone jumps on my case for limiting the other's free speach.

Say whatever you want, you've probably got a few people that will defend you... Free speech means we can criticise each other at will, granted I wasn't around on the date you're talking about, but give us all another chance!

I don't know your story, but I'd like to point out that "free speech" doesn't really apply to using privately owned online forums. You don't have a right to post whatever you want on anyone's forums. It's their board, and they're providing you a service on their terms. If they don't want to provide that service, they don't have to. You are, however, welcome to start your own forum.

Its natural a person with strong opinion is going to have conflict in an open forum.

I got pretty good idea about aspie and their obession with ideas. I was a rightwing
republican my first vote was for George Bush Sr. I gave money to Bob Dole presidential
bid. In 1994 when the republican took the house. I and my conservative republican friends at college voted. All the liberal we talk to did not even vote!

But with that being said I do not give a d*mn about who wins anymore. The government
will win no matter what. I can get along fine with any people and their ideas now. I doubt
I will ever vote again.

its not that because i have a strong opinion, its i'm not aloud to defend it, because it limits other people's free speach, so i'm not alloud to have mine, but they can say anything they want.

Hey tamm,

I completely agree that the bashing on this Forum is getting out of control.

The people who bash are just becoming the thing that they despise: a bully just like some NT's in the real world.

If you dont like something someone posted dont post it. If you cant say something positive about a persons thread then I believe you shouldnt post at all.

I think something more needs to be done about the bashers.

Maybe the best thing you can do is get off the site for a while, and check back to see if things have cooled down.

Maybe you can take this to Alex, and he can start banning people.

I must say that I was surprised by the bashing on one thread, which shall remain un-named. Suffice to say the subject sounded interesting, but the latest postings were all replies to previous replies regarding name calling. I would hope the moderator would personally email someone a warning to stop the bashing, and follow that up with a ban.

I have to admit, I was surprised at first. I saw that picture of Howard Dean and thought, "Somebody is limiting a liberal's free speech? Wow, the world sure has changed." Then I read on and realized it hadn't.

I read a little of that and, please, this is not a slam, but I read the "thoughtless" reply differently. I even agree, hijacking that many planes simultaneously and flying them into separate targets was not "thoughtless" - it took a lot of thought and planning to find a way to make such a devastating attack. I know I'll never forget that day or how I felt/feel. There are some with such hatred in their hearts that they didn't care if your uncle died but that hatred was not thoughtless. After your reply about "thoughtless" it seems everyone's thoughts got mixed up between their heads and fingers.

The hillbilly v. redneck thing - as I sit in the comfort of my own home, I wonder if you were sincere or just fishing for a response? Gretchen Wilson (yeah, I know she's from Illinois) and Jeff Foxworthy have made redneck living practically fashionable in this country. But, old habits die hard even though our society is constantly changing. Why post something that could be potentially inflammatory? As you tried to defend yourself, my reading was that it came from an emotional point of view. Sometimes you just have to walk away and let THEM "speak" for themselves - if they're coming from a point of ignorance, then you can't un-learn them and it will only frustrate you to try. And, it tends to make you look bad too. I found that out the hard way - there's some joke about arguing with a stupid person and before long you can't tell which one is the stupid one.

You are entitled to your views and opinions, but this is an international board and words on a screen can be open to (mis) interpretation far easier than face-to-face. It's hard to know if someone read it the wrong way or just what is going on as we each sit down to the keyboard. For the most part, I think you're mostly trying to have some fun. But, remember, most on here are Aspie and they are all quite literal. Redneck v. hillbilly - whaddya want to bet I'm not the only one went to the on-line dictionaries?

I'm a veteran of many boards and maillists and this sort of thing happens all the time. If words on a computer screen gets you riled, then get up, get a glass of water, take a walk, watch some television or listen to some music. Arguments can only last as long as others keep replying/defending. Letting go doesn't mean giving up or giving in, it just means you're smart enough to find better things to do right now.

I agree that hijacking threads is wrong, but if the post is on-topic, then it is the "potentially inflammatory" ones that are the most useful, IMHO.

Some people are right; some people are wrong; and some people just plain don't know what they're talking about. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to decide which one is the reason why Rakkety_Tamm's "free speech" has been curtailed.

Well we need to start a thread in which members publicly state the type of forum they
want.
Question 1

A. Censorship
B. Limited Censorship
C. No Censorship
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Question 2

D. People will be extremely nice or get banned
E. People will be nice or get banned
F. People will be People

Okay and if my math is right that would make 9 total combo's. All memeber will then
add the letter combo to their profiles. If you choose (A,D) you will only see (A,D) members post. If you choose say (C,F) you see all members post. The rest would be
in between.

Oh and if someone says there (A,D) and the moderator say they are not they have a
choice change there profile id or get banned.


I choose (C,F) and guess what thats the kinda people I want to talk to. I do not want
to hurt (A,D) peoples feelings.

We know human nature we can not all get along but we can seperate into these 9
groups.

Censorship is a government function, and WrongPlanet.net is just a website, so moderation is not censorship. In my opinion, paternalistic moderation is the ideal compromise. WrongPlanet.net is used by people of all ages and beliefs, so we should choose a popular, neutral least common denominator of acceptable behavior. Since WrongPlanet.net is based in the United States, we should follow the ideal morality most Americans have faith in, and that is a Christian morality.

Discussing anything perverted, inflammatory, controversial, or provocative should be forbidden for being rather un-Christian. This means the adult-content forum needs to go among other things. People shall address each other with Christian compassion and refrain from such sinfully proud behavior as disagreeing, saying someone is wrong (unless what the person is saying is contrary to Christian dogma), or not accepting one's lot in life. This still leaves a wide swath of conversational topics to choose from: choice of tea, current weather, questions about whether one has Asperger's syndrome or not, and whether it is indeed a good day to go on a walk around the neighborhood.

There are many aspects of life—sinful, you might say—that do not belong on a family-friendly forum. Children do not need to hear or see bad words like "jeez," "darn," and "pee." Some parts of the body and some activities of the body are inherently unclean and sinful; that is why we cleanse ourselves from their stain. Nuanced debate of issues like drug use, spirituality, international policy, and philosophy do not belong here; here, we prefer the simple way any red-blooded American learns in elementary school and Sunday school. Those who wish to "supplement" their life with sinful thoughts and behavior are free to do so—our liberal constitution and God's love permit it—but it just isn't appropriate here. We can leave the debate to libertine academics in their ivory towers of moral relativism and the corrupt politicians, but for us decent souls, we can talk about how much we love Christ and all His creation instead.

If you want to dislike someone or express your disagreement or even repulsion (unless they are contrary to Christian mores), your thoughts are impure. That is why governments have a moral duty to censor; that's why the administrators of WrongPlanet.net must moderate the forums. Membership in this community should be contigent upon submitting your every thought to scrutiny and judgment. If you do not want to be shapen into conformance with our orthodoxy, it is in your rights to leave. But should you join our community under false pretenses and hold on to some sliver of autonomy, you will meet with our hissy fits and kneejerk edits and bans, for our fury is righteous!

(This applies to everyone.)

NeantHumain I am atheist. My guess a very low percentage of Americans (aka NTs)
are atheist. My guess a very high percentage of WP aspies are atheist.

Again you have a (A,D) mind set. My guess is a small percent of WP members are (A,D).
Thats why I say break into 9 groups. You can have your small subset of Christain childrens WP for (A,D). And 95% of the user can use the larger (C,F) secular adult WP.

The very fact (A,D) are such a small number here is why Alex is unlikely to change the
forums to their narrow view. Look get hundreds of active members to join WP with
an (A,D) mindset and I sure Alex will gladly "improve" WP to your wishes. Oh but please
understand us (C,F) will be looking for thousand of our brothers to join to change it back.