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I was recently in contact with a top bloke who defends bikers rights. He saw me campaigning for autistic rights and was touched enough to share a little with me. Hes an accountant and possibly HFA

He's an extremely intelligent leader, with a reputation that crosses the boundaries of most NZ outlaw gangs, also 'legal' bikers and amongst other things, police negotiations.....

He seemed to think we might be all related. What do you think about these faces? Many appear to me to have PDD genes, at the very least

I dont know many outlaw bikers myself, but their lifestyles seems to corroborate ADHD and ASD, also sociopathic conditions such as violent meltdowns, heated arguments and loner lifestyles away from the gang. Also some youthful friendly and open faces too.

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Very cool pics! Did you take those?

Nope just google imaged 'biker portraits'. I'm online with bikers a bit, I reckon a few are HFA. The badass ones in gangs more ADHD

Its wise to consider drug use when viewing these faces for PDD's

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I don't see a connection between the faces; nor have I noticed common facial traits between PDD, AS, or anyone on the Autism spectrum.

Sorry, but you could as well take pictures of 20 people you see in a bus or at the mall. I cannot see how any of the faces you posted would be different from any other average face, that is.

Furthermore, not every kind of unusual lifestyle can and should be labeled or "diagnosed", especially not by laymen. It's downright stupid to assume PDD and similar genes would be visible in a face.

On the other hand, many AS people don't have violent meltdowns and sociopathic conditions, not even necessarily a loner lifestyle.

It's not entirely unreasonable. You can tell when a person has Down's syndrome by their facial features.

Not likening any particular conditions or disorders to each other, just saying. Sometimes neurological features have corresponding visible indicators.

There's a difference between choosing to stand outside the society and being unable to connect with it. I'd say there might be a higher possibility to be a member of such a 'group' and have one of those labels at the same time due to similarities in appearance. In my experience, I couldn't imagine myself as a regular member of either a biker gang or a cyclist group (that I'd prefer in my case). For me it would mean too much group interaction, too much of sharing of life space with others, maybe too much confidentiality that I wouldn't be able to handle. Even when I'm among my 'friends' with whom I'd go to a bicycle tour at summer I feel an outsider (though I'm somehow 'part of the furniture' by now ), and I definitely reside on the 'mild' side of the spectrum...

Dealing with you lot is a real mission sometimes. What a moronic thing to say

People are much milder again, and can still have interpersonal problems. From my extensive experience in Aucklands cannabis clubs, I'd guess that ADHD would be around 10 times more prevalent than autism, that is: when a type of PDD has been detected in someone.

Bikers are often intoxicated around each other, which makes the group interactions easier for them (as well as being mild re PDD)

A lot of the more sober bikers (who are not involved with the drug trade)love working on machines, and have a deep in interest in technology and tech news. Many have military backgrounds and interests.

Some with a shave and a haircut would look just like a cop!

I stare a lot at people every day. For the last 2 years at least, nearly every day I sit in public places and watch people for hours. nearly every evening I go out and sit on sofas in clubs and yeah, watch people. In the evening I get to listen to speech and observe more behaviours. often I ask questions about parents etc as cannabis makes me chatty and less anxious

Learning to see PDD's is easy if you spend the time

As a group, surfers are similar to bikers, except PDD expression has a much higher ratio of ASD compared to the bikers. Drug use is similar, but antisocial behaviours such as violence and Machiavellian schemes are much less with surfers than with the bikers.

My surfing beach has its small crew of guys who are nearly always alone, and not socially adept. (me)

I'm not saying everyone involved with these groups is this way, just a higher proportion than joe public. Same with musicians artists etc. But being milder, they struggle on as best they can without ever being considered as with disorder

I'm sitting in a large cafe now, and have been out for dinner and to a club earlier in the evening. I stare at a lot of people every day...

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