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12 Jun 2012, 9:53 am

I don't wish to be cured of my AS. My AS makes the the unique person that I am. I have a wonderful and unique way of looking at the world. I appreciate the small things in life. I enjoy the special interests that I have and I hope that they don't change any time soon. I'm able to enjoy my own company for hours. I have some cute little quirks that I like to celebrate. I don't need to be a part of the NT world unless I'm at work. There's nothing for me there. I accept everything about me. It doesn't matter that I'm not a part of the NT world. I'd rather be true to myself and enjoy the things that I enjoy doing. I like to celebrate my differences and AS is one of them. :)


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12 Jun 2012, 9:56 am

I wish everyone shared your outlook :)
The world would be a happier place.



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12 Jun 2012, 10:09 am

Finally someone else who is proud of the fact that they have AS. :D And it would be better if a charity promoting us wasn't secretly trying to kill us all- in the countries that abortion is available thus my kids will live and they will have a major positive impact on how people think about us.

PS We should be treated in general much better as the depressing topic of most posts on here show that some people with AS or Autism are treated badly by others.


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12 Jun 2012, 10:14 am

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Finally someone else who is proud of the fact that they have AS. :D And it would be better if a charity promoting us wasn't secretly trying to kill us all- in the countries that abortion is available thus my kids will live and they will have a major positive impact on how people think about us.

PS We should be treated in general much better as the depressing topic of most posts on here show that some people with AS or Autism are treated badly by others.
Sure...


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12 Jun 2012, 11:37 am

You're entitled to your own opinions of course. I do see a common theme in similar threads from some others with the same opinion, and they tend to go like this
1. Compare best features of intelligent Aspies with the worst features from a selected subset of NTs who just happen to be selfish a-holes.
2. Conclude the former is better than the latter
3. Thus conclude something like "it is better to be aspie" or something along those lines, often with an expression of satisfaction or proudness.

I hope this doesn't turn into another one of those threads.

Maybe you would like to expand on some of the unique qualities that make you happy to be the way you are. I don't have to agree but it is still refreshing to read posts with a positive emphasis in them.



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12 Jun 2012, 11:46 am

It depends on the definition of cure. If I can still enjoy my own company, but also enjoy others without getting exhausted, I would say a cure would be loads better for me personally. Few and intense interests might be replaced by a broader knowledgebase instead of just the niche I have now, that wouldn't be that bad. Less need for alone time, would certainly benefit my dearest and closest.

I'm happy for you though.


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12 Jun 2012, 11:47 am

I feel the same way about my physical disability. I have peripheral nerve damage making me technically an incomplete paraplegic. If someone gave me a pill to cure me, I'd throw it back at them.
My wheelchair is a part of me, a part of who I am. I have absolutely no interest in being cured.

I feel the same way with AS. It's relatively mild, but it still does cause issues in my life.
It's just a part of who I am


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12 Jun 2012, 11:59 am

Hmm, AS is not for everybody. It really depends on your life circumstances and the type of person you are. If you've always been overaveragely clever and able to focus on special interests that could lead to a career, and you don't care for friends or any kind of a social life, and you come from a family where there are others with conditions that affect their lives too so you don't feel completely the only one, and you're not over self-aware and don't mind being different and don't get emotionally affected by other people's criticisms against you, then I guess it's easier to accept yourself and be happy with being an Aspie.

But when you're someone like me, who has underaverage intellegence (IQ probably 90), and cannot become into things that would lead you into a career, and not confident enough away to engage that far into your special interests, and you desire friendships and you are just as aware of the NT world as NTs are but struggle to conform in it at the same time, and you come from a family who are all NTs and you have lots of NT cousins around you who are all getting on better and you just feel like you're getting younger and younger than them by the year, and you hate being different and you suffer with social anxiety and poor self-esteem and get emotionally affected by criticisms from other people, then it is a lot harder to accept yourself for who you are, or even like yourself.

And I wish I had a pound for every time I hear the words ''Aspergers is who I am'' on this forum.


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12 Jun 2012, 12:11 pm

jetbuilder wrote:
I feel the same way about my physical disability. I have peripheral nerve damage making me technically an incomplete paraplegic. If someone gave me a pill to cure me, I'd throw it back at them.
My wheelchair is a part of me, a part of who I am.


That particular wheelchair, or wheelchairs in general? If a better one was available and you could afford it, would you get it?



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12 Jun 2012, 12:50 pm

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That particular wheelchair, or wheelchairs in general? If a better one was available and you could afford it, would you get it?

I do have a "bond " with my current chair. I do plan on getting a new one later this year. I know it's gonna feel weird for a while not using my old one because i'm used to THAT chair. Not sure if i will sell my my current chair because i have an emotional link to it. I know it sounds weird.


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12 Jun 2012, 1:02 pm

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Wayne wrote:
That particular wheelchair, or wheelchairs in general? If a better one was available and you could afford it, would you get it?

I do have a "bond " with my current chair. I do plan on getting a new one later this year. I know it's gonna feel weird for a while not using my old one because i'm used to THAT chair. Not sure if i will sell my my current chair because i have an emotional link to it. I know it sounds weird.


I understand it taking a while to get used to something, even something better. You've got a lot of practice using it. But after you adjust, you don't want to go back.

If you could replace the wheelchair with working legs, that would take getting used to as well. But I don't see any more reason to reject that than there is to reject the better wheelchair. The emotional link to the old wheelchair is the same.



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12 Jun 2012, 1:06 pm

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But when you're someone like me, who has underaverage intellegence (IQ probably 90), and cannot become into things that would lead you into a career, and not confident enough away to engage that far into your special interests, and you desire friendships and you are just as aware of the NT world as NTs are but struggle to conform in it at the same time, and you come from a family who are all NTs and you have lots of NT cousins around you who are all getting on better and you just feel like you're getting younger and younger than them by the year, and you hate being different and you suffer with social anxiety and poor self-esteem and get emotionally affected by criticisms from other people, then it is a lot harder to accept yourself for who you are, or even like yourself.


That sounds a lot like my son. Aspie, with academic problems on top of it. And huge sensitivity issues, including feeling lots of pain when he tries to exercise at all, which means he's physically out of shape too. I still can't think of a good strategy for him to use to have a good life.



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12 Jun 2012, 2:20 pm

I think instead of wanting to cure it, we all should focus on things about ourselves we would like cured eg. sensory issues or issues with reading people, issues with coping with change, anything that causes us trouble. But if some people would like to cure their AS, up to them and it's their own condition. I just figure they maybe have it that bad or are unhappy with their lives so they figure if they didn't have it, their lives be a lot easier. I used to feel the same way but only because I wanted to be normal. I would still get moments where I wished I didn't have it.

I would like my anxiety to be cured and my learning problems. I think my life would be a lot easier that way. I see nothing good about having anxiety or a learning disability. My mother once tried making me having anxiety as a good thing because she told me it makes me think about my choices before doing them and all the consequences or things that may go wrong. I think you can still do that without the anxiety. It's called thinking about your choices and actions.


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12 Jun 2012, 2:30 pm

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I think instead of wanting to cure it, we all should focus on things about ourselves we would like cured eg. sensory issues or issues with reading people, issues with coping with change, anything that causes us trouble. But if some people would like to cure their AS, up to them and it's their own condition. I just figure they maybe have it that bad or are unhappy with their lives so they figure if they didn't have it, their lives be a lot easier. I used to feel the same way but only because I wanted to be normal. I would still get moments where I wished I didn't have it.

I would like my anxiety to be cured and my learning problems. I think my life would be a lot easier that way. I see nothing good about having anxiety or a learning disability. My mother once tried making me having anxiety as a good thing because she told me it makes me think about my choices before doing them and all the consequences or things that may go wrong. I think you can still do that without the anxiety. It's called thinking about your choices and actions.


That's the thing. If you take away the biggest problems with my brain, my inability to use nonverbal communcation, my executive dysfunction, my difficulty context-switching, and so forth... I'd no longer meet the criteria for any form of autism. I would not be autistic. By definition, I would be cured of autism.



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12 Jun 2012, 3:12 pm

I would just love to be able to be a normal person without there being something ''off'' about me, and have better social skills and be on other people's wavelength more. I would also love to instinctively know more about fashion trends so I can fit in a bit better, without being criticised or ridiculed.


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12 Jun 2012, 3:32 pm

My condition contributes to my personality, and my condition is part of me.

I in no way ever desire for it to be cured of me.

And my therapist has been often fond of saying, and I quothe

"If they found a way to cure autism spectrum disorders in their entirety, the world would become a very boring, and very unintellectual place, and creativity as whole, would stop, utterly"


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