Aggression issues linked with aspergers?

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Have aspergers and aggression issues? 62%  62%  [ 23 ]
Have aspergers but no aggression issues? 24%  24%  [ 9 ]
Have aggression issues but not aspergers? 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Other (please explain)? 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
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08 Nov 2012, 8:26 am

My psychiatrist has recently been trying to make me take anti-aggression meds, because lately I've been very unhappy (grandmother is dying, he knows it). He said that the two are very often linked and this I probably have aggression issues... As far as I know, and I've asked close family and a few friends I am very non aggressive and should probably try to be more assertive...

Is it true that the two are often linked. Do you have aggression problems or are you in treatment for those? What do you think about his attempts to get me take these meds, because to me they seem very illogical as they have no relevance in my case...



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08 Nov 2012, 9:00 am

I'm a teddy bear until I get frustrated with people, then I get quite angry. I've been to an anger management group and I think the coping strategies they teach you are better than taking medication - I've never heard of anti-aggression medication and I don't see how it pertains to being unhappy. From my experience with the group, everyone was there because of communication problems. That could be why asperger's is linked to aggression.



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08 Nov 2012, 10:12 am

I am the nicest, most polite person you will ever meet. Yeh, I'm quiet, but I will usually try to carry the conversation, even when I can't. I will ALWAYS show you respect though.

However, if someone shows blatant ignorance on something or doesn't reciprocate the respect that I put out, I get very frustrated. If this happens continuously, or if someone pisses me off on purpose, I will fantasise about the noise that happens when I smash the bones in their shins with a lead pipe into hundreds of individual shards, while staring straight into their eyes.

So, I don't really know. I've never acted on this fantasy..... yet..... Would you say I had anger issues?



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08 Nov 2012, 10:25 am

I can fly into a rage in seconds and then come down again just as fast. Little things really get my back up instantly, rudeness, lack of respect etc... but play nice and I'm your best mate.

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08 Nov 2012, 10:45 am

Dimorphic wrote:
I am the nicest, most polite person you will ever meet. Yeh, I'm quiet, but I will usually try to carry the conversation, even when I can't. I will ALWAYS show you respect though.

However, if someone shows blatant ignorance on something or doesn't reciprocate the respect that I put out, I get very frustrated. If this happens continuously, or if someone pisses me off on purpose, I will fantasise about the noise that happens when I smash the bones in their shins with a lead pipe into hundreds of individual shards, while staring straight into their eyes.

So, I don't really know. I've never acted on this fantasy..... yet..... Would you say I had anger issues?


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08 Nov 2012, 11:08 am

Your psychiatrist is talking out of his butt. Aggression and AS are not linked. Meltdowns are not an aggression issue. And if you do not have problematic meltdowns, then there is no point in medicating them.


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08 Nov 2012, 1:06 pm

I voted for the top one. I do have aggressive issues aswell as AS. I don't have meltdowns, I have lash-outs, where I go into an intense rage and just want to take all my anger out on people who caused me to get this angry. For example:-

Anxiety of being unemployed and beng picked on by the jobcentre: I want to phone up employers that I've attended interviews to but haven't got the job.

Disappointment of new bus-drivers on my bus: I want to phone up the bus company and give them a good bollocking for changing my favourite bus-drivers to all these new grouchy unfriendly bastards, what just aren't the same as my nice friendly ones who like me.

Me being the only Aspie in my family and having the least friends: I want to yell and scream at my cousins for having NT brains and having more ability to socialise more naturally, without appearing odd.

That is how my anger works. Obviously I don't do these things when I'm angry because that would just make things a lot worse, but it's what I feel like doing. So instead I scream and yell and call people names and cry.


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08 Nov 2012, 1:15 pm

Wow this is really interesting in your profile it says you were born in 1995 that would make you around 16 17 when i was around exactly the same age i had some real aggression issues and my psychiatrist prescribed me these ant-aggression drugs that didn't really do much, maybe there is some sort of connection with aggression that only occurs with some people with Asperger's around that age
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08 Nov 2012, 1:34 pm

Yes, I've always been bad tempered. But I wonder if it is any difference between being bad tempered and being aggressive?
Because I don't consider myself aggressive, at least I'm less sadistic comparing with the most passive aggressive folks.
My aggressiveness is much likely a defensive reaction to the passive-aggressive behaviour. And I think many people exhibit this kind of aggressiveness.


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08 Nov 2012, 2:02 pm

I have fits of rage that are followed from anxiety and/or periods of 30 minutes-1 hour in wich I don't talk at all as soon as the rage passed. I usually don't tend to be aggressive towards people, unless they start bothering me. When they do, I usually push them away and/or scream at them, and then I feel guilty about it. These anger issues suck.


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08 Nov 2012, 2:58 pm

Kairi96 wrote:
I have fits of rage that are followed from anxiety and/or periods of 30 minutes-1 hour in wich I don't talk at all as soon as the rage passed. I usually don't tend to be aggressive towards people, unless they start bothering me. When they do, I usually push them away and/or scream at them, and then I feel guilty about it. These anger issues suck.

The same for me.


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08 Nov 2012, 3:00 pm

AnotherKind wrote:
Yes, I've always been bad tempered. But I wonder if it is any difference between being bad tempered and being aggressive?
Because I don't consider myself aggressive, at least I'm less sadistic comparing with the most passive aggressive folks.
My aggressiveness is much likely a defensive reaction to the passive-aggressive behaviour. And I think many people exhibit this kind of aggressiveness.

I'm basically described as the "uppity" guy by society. :twisted:



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08 Nov 2012, 3:03 pm

I guess I have some issues with aggression. Usually, I try to check these impulses, but sometimes all that anger just bursts out... :oops:

However, as I am no danger to anyone (my aggression is focused on objects not persons) I would never take any medication.


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08 Nov 2012, 3:11 pm

Dimorphic wrote:
I am the nicest, most polite person you will ever meet. Yeh, I'm quiet, but I will usually try to carry the conversation, even when I can't. I will ALWAYS show you respect though.

However, if someone shows blatant ignorance on something or doesn't reciprocate the respect that I put out, I get very frustrated. If this happens continuously, or if someone pisses me off on purpose, I will fantasise about the noise that happens when I smash the bones in their shins with a lead pipe into hundreds of individual shards, while staring straight into their eyes.

So, I don't really know. I've never acted on this fantasy..... yet..... Would you say I had anger issues?


What the heck; exactly my reply written before I'd written it, ha. Dude, I'm telling you, we are one in the same. I'm the most people pleasing person I've ever met (self-analysis, hey!) but a few times in my life, I've snapped and disturbed teachers and friends that thought they'd known me. In front of my family or people I've grown extremely comfortable around, on the other hand, I can be far less eager to please and sometimes, condescending (even verbally cruel) when dealing with stupidity but never physically aggressive and usually apologetic afterwards. Like most of us though, if someone wrongs me, I never, ever forget or forgive it.


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08 Nov 2012, 3:14 pm

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I'm basically described as the "uppity" guy by society. :twisted:

Sounds good (if uppity= with self-esteem). Sometimes people are something like "how pitiful... aww".
It makes me want to bang their heads against a wall.


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08 Nov 2012, 3:27 pm

I have always been aggressive as long as I can remember. In 6th grade, I was in group therapy and we all learned about passive, aggressive, and assertive and we did lot of role playing about how to handle situations. We all had to stick with the assertive part and try and avoid being passive or aggressive, you want to be in between and that is being assertive. I still get aggressive when my buttons get pushed. Aggressive doesn't always mean psychical, it can be verbal and it can also mean yelling too. I also had to take breathing exercises in 5th grade because I get aggressive. I see myself as having mild anger issues because I have seen what kids are like who have anger issues and no way am I like them. Even my ex aspie mate had it bad because of his anxiety. His parents even had stickers tapped all around the computer monitor at home telling him what to do and it was all words with pictures. They said things like "Don't hit the computer" "Take a deep breath and count to three" "get your mom or dad to help you out with the computer." I definitely did not have it that bad and his mother said he was mild? It possible his AS itself was mild but had issues that weren't mild same as his comorbid of ODD. Or the mother was fooling herself. I think it's possible to have mild AS but have impairments of it that aren't mild. So functioning labels can be inaccurate.

Sometimes I think I don't have any anger issues at all. I do get violent thoughts though when I'm mad. What stops me from doing them is knowing the consequences to my actions and possible ones and the fact there are laws about it. Like I may be mad at someone online and hate them now but I wouldn't go spreading personal information on them on public forums to upset them and to show them they messed with the wrong person because I know not only would I hurt that person, it would also make me look bad and if I saw someone doing the exact same thing, I would see it as a red flag to stay away from them because I might piss them off and I wouldn't know what would piss them off and that could be me too they could do it too so better safe than sorry to stay away. I would see them as having anger issues.


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