Tbh a lot of aspiess are annoying when they say the followin
A. Aspies>NTs (extreme arrogance)
B. if a person is a genius he//he has to have aspergers (while its very likely, to say NTs can't be geniuses is idiotic)
C. Aspergers is a disease and a major disability (go to a hospital and then talk to me about disability)
D. NTs are over social monkeys who are imbecile in nature (in most countries where socialisation is valued, and quietness looked down upon, yes, in countries where quietness, reflection and solitude aren't frowned up one, such as most Asian countries no. Sadly it's true. A jock is another word for overly social monkey who is imbecile, and there seems to be a lot of countries favoring jocks)
E. aspergers is the next step in human evolution (aspergers=nt ; what we lack in social skills compensates for our unique gifts)
I've heard this a lot from aspies on this forum and this gives us a very bad depiction. NTs are aware of all these statements, and a guy even put that as number one stupidest cause people fight for. I was very offended by his article, top 5 stupidest cause, number one being aspie pride, however what he mentioned does correspond with a lot of stuff seen on these forums (although his idea of aspies faking it is piss poor logic IMO and asinine sounding), such as aspies believing that aspergers is a superior race, aspergers is the next step in human evolution, NTs are inferior, etc. lets be honest here, most of us have either heard that or said that on this forum. People are even making stupid threads like I hate nt because so and so nt abused me. This superiority complex and neurologism (the brain version of nationalism) is embarrassing especially when NTs hear it, then they start to get the message that all aspies are like that nd it's just plain wrong.
Aspie=NT
Being aspie doesn't make a person better or worse than an NT, superiority comes from character and integrity not from how your brain is wired.
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I Liked how you slip that little bit of bigotry into your rant about bigot aspies.
Ignore this post, read the beneath post which refutes your claim
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I Liked how you slip that little bit of bigotry into your rant about bigot aspies.
I like how you misquote me when I clearly explained what I meant up above in my second post. I tried editing my first post, however it caused a second post to appear.nwhat I mean is in American where society values small talk, socialization, and frowns upon quietness and introverted behavior, while in Asia where introverted behavior, reflection and quietness are values that are part of Asian society. What I'm trying to say that these overly social monkeys, jocks, are favored in American schools, while in some countries a jock would be looked down upon. And it's not bigot, it true. Here in America jocks are treated like Demi gods in school, and it's considered cool to be one. That's the way society varies. And I got that idea from another post on this forum saying the exact same thing, in certain countries an nt that would be considered cool would be quiet and analytical, like itachis from naruto, where in naruto quietness, reflection and thinking are what make characters cool. Itachi doesn't have aspergers, yet he's focused, analytical, calm, pensive and not very social. Why? Because in Asian cultures its common to see that. My point is the notion of NTs being overly social monkeys stems from how in America jocks are considered cool and treated like the gods in school
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The other four annoy me. What annoys me about C. is the statement that Asperger's isn't a disability with the false dichotomy of comparing AS to hospitalization.
The vast majority of disabled people aren't hospitalized, and people with AS have been hospitalized because of issues related to having AS. Only one of my disabilities is likely to lead to hospitalization (major depression) but others cause me more daily impairments and disability because I am not currently having a depressive episode.
So, it annoys me when anyone tries to claim that AS cannot be disabling. It also annoys me when anyone tries to equate "being disabled" with being "worse than." Being disabled is another state of being, and doesn't make anyone better or worse than those who are not disabled. Acknowledging disability means acknowledging the real difficulties, challenges, and impairments a disabled person faces that someone who does not have that disability does not face.
The other four annoy me. What annoys me about C. is the statement that Asperger's isn't a disability with the false dichotomy of comparing AS to hospitalization.
The vast majority of disabled people aren't hospitalized, and people with AS have been hospitalized because of issues related to having AS. Only one of my disabilities is likely to lead to hospitalization (major depression) but others cause me more daily impairments and disability because I am not currently having a depressive episode.
So, it annoys me when anyone tries to claim that AS cannot be disabling. It also annoys me when anyone tries to equate "being disabled" with being "worse than." Being disabled is another state of being, and doesn't make anyone better or worse than those who are not disabled. Acknowledging disability means acknowledging the real difficulties, challenges, and impairments a disabled person faces that someone who does not have that disability does not face.
Why am I always misquoted? I said major disability, aspergers is a disability but out of all the disabilities that exist on earth it is by far one of the most moderate. These people in hospitals have disabilities that are far more impairing than anything aspergers has to offer. A lot of the impairments can be coped with, heal after time, mild, or are compensated by a pro, whereas some severely disabled people in hospitals are there permanently, can't be coped with that easily, and have far worse disabilities.
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Why am I always misquoted? I said major disability, aspergers is a disability but out of all the disabilities that exist on earth it is by far one of the most moderate. These people in hospitals have disabilities that are far more impairing than anything aspergers has to offer. A lot of the impairments can be coped with, heal after time, mild, or are compensated by a pro, whereas some severely disabled people in hospitals are there permanently, can't be coped with that easily, and have far worse disabilities.
You said "go to the hospital and talk to me about disability." There was no "major disability" specifier there.
Also, major disability does not in fact mean being hospitalized and being hospitalized does not in fact mean having a major disability.
The phrase "major disability" in this context is maddeningly vague. It seems you're defining it specifically to exclude all possible manifestations of AS.
You're also making unfounded claims about AS' level of impairment. This may be true for you, but it may not be true for everyone that they can be coped with, heal after time, mild, or compensated by a pro.
I'm not going to be nitpicky like the others. I get what you're overall message is. There's some victimization and ego-tripping going on by some members. Not only is it annoying, but it's really unhealthy and not an attitude that I think should be cultivated in our community. I think this is what the other thread was talking about when it was describing this forums negativity.
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I agree with a lot of it, but I disagree with AS not being a disability....since it is, though it's not all bad nessisarily it is disabling for many people who have it. Not all disabilities require hospitalization, and even the ones that do don't necessarily require it at all times.
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The other four annoy me. What annoys me about C. is the statement that Asperger's isn't a disability with the false dichotomy of comparing AS to hospitalization.
The vast majority of disabled people aren't hospitalized, and people with AS have been hospitalized because of issues related to having AS. Only one of my disabilities is likely to lead to hospitalization (major depression) but others cause me more daily impairments and disability because I am not currently having a depressive episode.
So, it annoys me when anyone tries to claim that AS cannot be disabling. It also annoys me when anyone tries to equate "being disabled" with being "worse than." Being disabled is another state of being, and doesn't make anyone better or worse than those who are not disabled. Acknowledging disability means acknowledging the real difficulties, challenges, and impairments a disabled person faces that someone who does not have that disability does not face.
Why am I always misquoted? I said major disability, aspergers is a disability but out of all the disabilities that exist on earth it is by far one of the most moderate. These people in hospitals have disabilities that are far more impairing than anything aspergers has to offer. A lot of the impairments can be coped with, heal after time, mild, or are compensated by a pro, whereas some severely disabled people in hospitals are there permanently, can't be coped with that easily, and have far worse disabilities.
There are different severity levels of autism/aspergers....to some it is a very severe disability for others it is more moderate. I think that goes for most other disabilities as well.
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I agree with what Sweetleaf said above.
While I agree with the OP on many points, AS can be very disabling. Because of my complete lack of social skills, my quality of life has been very poor. I've been an outcast all my life wherever I am, both in my original country and in the country where I currently reside. Two completely different cultures. It pretty much confirms that I am a universal outcast regardless of the envirnment I'm in. In addition, not looking disabled makes things even more difficult. So I don't want people to underestimate the difficulty of AS, though individual experiences can be very different.
Regarding the other points about some with AS being arrogant etc, I agree with the OP. I think some people tend to exaggerate the traits of "Aspies" and "NT's". I tend to avoid using those words probably because it seems to me that those words somehow reflect that attitude and I feel a bit embarrassed about it. It's just my personal view.
But those posts are some of my favorite ones on this forum . Of course I don't take them seriously, but they always give me a good laugh due to how incredibly egocentric they are. I also like the theory that everyone with aspergers is descended from a master race of aliens who colonized Earth thousands of years ago.
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What's wrong with Aspie pride? So, are they going to knock the gays too for having a Gay Pride march every year (which is what happens in the UK)?
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