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Chickenbird
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07 Aug 2014, 4:06 pm

Feeling upset. I have been looking for part-time jobs in the new
town we are moving to. I know they say that computerisation
has created many more jobs than it has destroyed, but I have
also read that middle-class jobs are disappearing fast.

It seems that the only jobs in my area are for lawyers, shop assistants,
or caring for the elderly in retirement villages. Nothing in between.
I'm not a lawyer, and I am not good physically. My calculating brain is my
only strong point as far as paid work goes. I did accounting thinking
it was a "sure thing."

Please comment :(


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07 Aug 2014, 4:15 pm

It´s everywhere.
Aspie friendly jobs = not-so-social niche jobs are disappearing. Those that remain become highly skilled nerd jobs.
80% of aspies are uneployed/underimployed now.

The service compartment is growing, so that is where the jobs are. Being good at social stuff becomes more and more important.

Buggers!


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07 Aug 2014, 5:27 pm

I have to agree.

I am wondering if I could get a job in a retirement village part-time
and get someone else in to do my housework (since I am very low
on energy).

That way, I at least have a job. Then I might get more work, or give up
the home help if I run short of money one day. What do you think?

I'm told old people accept aspies better because they too have
neurological difficulties.


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07 Aug 2014, 6:42 pm

How could you afford a home help, if you only work part time?

Why are you so low on energy?

Retirement village? We don´t have those in my country, but I would think, it would be cleaning jobs, right?

Why not?
It is better to have a job than being on dole. That´s for sure.


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07 Aug 2014, 6:54 pm

Jensen wrote:
How could you afford a home help, if you only work part time?

Why are you so low on energy?

Retirement village? We don´t have those in my country, but I would think, it would be cleaning jobs, right?

Why not?
It is better to have a job than being on dole. That´s for sure.


My husband has a full-time job although it isn't permanent. If I work part-time,
all my pay would be used up by home help, but I would be building a
work record. I haven't done paid work for about 10 years and don't
have referees anymore.

I am low on energy due to malnutrition from the past. It comes and goes.
I am very careful with diet now.

Not just cleaning jobs, there is occupational therapy, serving food,
showering (which I have done before) and so on. Maybe I
would spot an accounting position while I was there.


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07 Aug 2014, 7:03 pm

I think that sounds very sensible. There are more possibilities in it.
I´d say, Go for it!


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07 Aug 2014, 7:14 pm

Jensen wrote:
I think that sounds very sensible. There are more possibilities in it.
I´d say, Go for it!


That's very kind :) thank you


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08 Aug 2014, 4:19 am

The best of luck to you! :)


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08 Aug 2014, 3:33 pm

Husband can't accept me doing elderly care when I have accounting
training. He doesn't understand my limitations. I feel trapped :(


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08 Aug 2014, 4:59 pm

It's OK to work outside your field of training. Your husband's limitations of thought don't have to be your own.

However...if you don't mind telling the general area you are moving to, I could hunt around for accounting gigs in your location. It's surprising that the accounting jobs aren't there, since those lawyers and shops and retirement villages all must have accountants.



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08 Aug 2014, 5:23 pm

arielhawksquill wrote:
It's OK to work outside your field of training. Your husband's limitations of thought don't have to be your own.

However...if you don't mind telling the general area you are moving to, I could hunt around for accounting gigs in your location. It's surprising that the accounting jobs aren't there, since those lawyers and shops and retirement villages all must have accountants.


That is so kind of you to say, but I don't think we are in the same country.

Yes I'd have thought all the retailers and retirement villages would need
accounting and bookkeeping. Maybe they use people in the big city
which is an hour away - not suitable for part-time work. They could easily
do that, with the new software etc.

I wondered if all this cloud software was cutting out real jobs, because I've used some
for my own business and all you need is a little overseeing by an accountant, everything practically does itself.
So there would be extra competition for the remaining jobs, and the more
socially adept would get them.


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08 Aug 2014, 7:13 pm

Chickenbird wrote:
Husband can't accept me doing elderly care when I have accounting
training. He doesn't understand my limitations. I feel trapped :(

He doesn´t want you to "sell out", - but he doesn´t understand the terms of reality.


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08 Aug 2014, 8:53 pm

Jensen wrote:
Chickenbird wrote:
Husband can't accept me doing elderly care when I have accounting
training. He doesn't understand my limitations. I feel trapped :(

He doesn´t want you to "sell out", - but he doesn´t understand the terms of reality.


Just so, thank you Jensen, you have it.

That is how he perceives it because he just doesn't understand that being really intelligent
and well-educated isn't enough. He thinks "just do what I do" should make it work for me.

Like probably many people on this board, I have struggled all my life with the huge
discrepancy between my apparent potential and my actual performance -
am I lazy? what is wrong with me? if I am so great, why doesn't anyone employ
me? why do I seem to "lack confidence"? why am I drawn to repetitive jobs
and a quiet life?

Once I learned about aspergers, all that disappeared - but only for me. People
like my family and husband are still back there struggling.

It's apparently not enough for me to "humble myself" if the rest of the world is still
in denial.


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08 Aug 2014, 9:02 pm

Yeah, I have the same problem with not meeting my potential. It's a bit paradoxical, because it would be too stressful to meet my full potential, but if meeting my full potential is too stressful isn't that a sign that my full potential is less than it appears?


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08 Aug 2014, 9:52 pm

beneficii wrote:
Yeah, I have the same problem with not meeting my potential. It's a bit paradoxical, because it would be too stressful to meet my full potential, but if meeting my full potential is too stressful isn't that a sign that my full potential is less than it appears?


That is how I see it, yes, I think if you add the sum of our parts we would turn out to be just ordinary like everyone else. I'm not here
to save the planet.

I think I have two choices -
Appear normal by living an abnormal life (meditation etc)
or
Live an apparently normal life and have a breakdown.


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08 Aug 2014, 10:44 pm

beneficii wrote:
Yeah, I have the same problem with not meeting my potential. It's a bit paradoxical, because it would be too stressful to meet my full potential, but if meeting my full potential is too stressful isn't that a sign that my full potential is less than it appears?


I've always understood "full potential" to mean what you could achieve under ideal circumstances. So if, say, you were incredibly good at physics, you might be intellectually capable of making a brilliant discovery, and that would be "achieving your full potential"; if however your Asperger's made it impossible for you to work in a lab with a bunch of other people, then those less-than-ideal circumstances would stop you from achieving your full potential. But that wouldn't diminish your potential because if you had a lab to yourself, you could do it.

Sorry, I'm not sure that's as clear as I meant it to be, and anyway, I might be wrong. But that's my take on it.