Faking can make reality

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Have you ever started to believe something you made up yourself?
When I was younger I used to make things up all the time,but sometimes I part believed some of the things were true until later on when I realised they're actually false.

I suppose though are thoughts and actions are what creates reality so even if at the beginning your just using your imagination, with action and over time your ideas can become real. What are your thoughts?

I think I've experienced this but that's when I'm very anti social and when I don't think about anything except my imagination but then I realize that it's not real when I get back to seeing people.

You are correct. Isolation makes false reality extremely easy to create and believe. Reality is simply the majority perspective and if you only have your own it is quite natural to become distorted unless you have others to compare it against thus creating a collective understanding.

And yes I did start to believe things I made up until I realized they were wrong. I am still disconnected from the collective understanding and often do not understand or look at things the way they do.

Collective belief can also draw you away from the truth. Majority of people believe/perceive a truth based on popular opinion and acceptability. Autistic people have traits that allow them to see things for what they are even when they maybe in major conflict with plausibility or popular thought.

But overall its important to remember all that anyone has is perception and a mental view based on that perception. These are quite removed from reality, none of us can truly observe reality... certainly not in real time.

I'm a sociologist. I study autism, but I also study the social construction of reality and a phenomenon called cognitive dissonance. Personally and professionally I believe what Herman said is absolutely true.

I'm just wondering, if this is really so does that mean right and wrong is subjective and doesn't completely exist really? It seems different places around the world all have entirely different social norms.

In the immortal words of Lily Tomlin: "What is reality except a collective hunch?"

Or...

"The really fun thing about reality is that everyone gets to have their own version of it."

Faking being an NT can't make you an NT but it can make you think you are one.

Right and wrong, when you get down to it, are social constructs, which are abstract thoughts. If you're asking if abstract thought "exists," that depends on what you mean by "existence."

That's exactly what I thought but I've been bashed for that view lol.

I did when I was in my 1st two relationships cuz of my anxiety. I thought bad things were going on or were going to happen that weren't. Thankfully I started treating my anxiety in the 2nd relationship & I don't have that problem within my current relationship.

I thought I was one until I found out I had AS. Although faking it is second nature and my default setting by now, and I wouldn't know how to not fake it if I tried. So that would be faking it. I guess I just got more control over it, instead of losing it. I can control my symptoms most of the time now I suppose.

As for believing in something you know isn't true, well once when I was going through some really hard s**t I almost convinced myself that I created a Tulpa. A Tulpa is basically a corporeal personification of an imaginary friend. I also almost convinced myself that I had manipulated time and something bad hadn't happened. I really tried to believe that, because crazy was better than reality, at least in my head at the time. But I couldn't believe it, so oh well. It was worth a shot.

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I don't quite believe in right and wrong as absolutes either. To me, all we have are imperfect codes of conduct which (one hopes) are designed to allow us all to rub along together with the minimum of friction and harm. They're very useful as guidelines, but they shouldn't stop you from thinking matters through for yourself. I suppose that explains why I can't relate to organised religion, which always seems to try to hand down absolutes - to me that's just absurd.

I can't ultimately seem to believe anything completely. I live my life according to tentative beliefs, rather than trying to set paradigms in stone. It makes no difference to me how many times somebody says a thing to me, or how many times I say it to myself, I never completely internalise it. Yet I gather that repetition usually causes belief, for most people.

The nearest I've got to getting fake things to "become real" was when I was about 12 years old. I used to stand against the wall, facing it, looking up at the bathroom light switch, which was on a cord, near to the wall, and I'd try to imagine I was lying belly down on the ground looking forward. After a time I would actually feel that the room was really on its side and the cord of the light switch was sticking out horizontally and swaying slightly in a circle, defying gravity. It was a little bit difficult to break out of the illusion, so for a short time I'd be "stuck" there, unsure how to move away. I probably indulged in a few more instances of make-believe when I was a child, but they got more difficult as I grew older.

I suppose when I'm performing my music there's a bit of a perception shift according to the response of the audience. If I notice they're really loving it, the sound seems to get better.

Hmm.....I usually believe my dreams, at least until I wake up, and the feeling that they really happened can persist for a few minutes, though consciously I know they didn't really happen. But the dreaming brain is in a rather different state to the waking brain, and I soon come to my senses.

Even when I used to take large-ish doses of psilocybin, which is said to be a hallucinogen, I never really hallucinated. Things looked wonderfully strange and shiny, and my emotional reactions to them were different, but I never thought for a moment that any of it was really that way.

I wish I could convince myself I am a wizard or witch that can cast spells, then maybe i could make things better in my life and the lives of people I care about...lol, but not sure how to do that.

Everybody can cast spells. It's all just manipulating energy. I learned about that when I was little. My grandmother was raised in SC and her mother had a lot of kids and a Geechee lady who lived with them and who raised them kids. That Geechee lady taught all the kids about hoodoo and such. My grandmother was the white hoodoo lady in the area I grew up in. Like church, Southerners segregated their hoodoo, but not by bigotry but by preference of styles. It was also 1964 when I was born in Bham Alabama too, so there ya go. But, I was home sick a lot as a kid and my grandmother taught me hoodoo, when people came to see her I'd get to stay in there and listen and she taught me lots. She taught me how to cook and crochet too. Lots of things. But you can do it. You don't even have to believe you can do it. Hoodoo don't require belief, hoodoo requires that you do it whether you believe it or not. What is it you want to change?