What's up with all the hate on" neurotypicals"

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04 Jun 2016, 9:39 pm

I keep seeing a lot of hate on non-autistics lately and I don't really know where it's coming from.

I have received a fair amount of torment and ignorance in my day but I don't hate non-autistics for it, bullying is a social formality in children and young adults- most children get bullied and are bullies, non-autistics can get bullied and autistics can be bullies.

Why do some of you hate non-autistics so much?


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04 Jun 2016, 9:45 pm

For me it's partly the bullying I had to endure, and partly because of how envious I am of them that they don't have to give a second thought about all the everyday situations I struggle mightily with, and how most of them act condescending toward you if you're different in any way. They all seem so phony, like they put on a facade and act nice until they find out how different you are, then they reveal their true selves. I'm tired of being around them every day; I want to hang out with my own kind whom I can understand and who will understand and accept me for who I am.



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04 Jun 2016, 9:50 pm

Well to me I already go through racism so I don't care about non-autistics...

I've been called "dirty indian", been told that my culture is primitive and not as important as white culture and language, been denied a place to live because they were worried my dad would be "drunk and loud" when my dad is the most sober person I know. I've been asked if I live in a teepee and been shamed for living on a reserve and stealing "tax payers dollars" (not at all how that works but whatever)

I'd take being a white autistic than a coloured autistic any day. I'm a minority twice, 3 times if you count that I'm also LGBT..


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04 Jun 2016, 9:55 pm

Some people want someone else to blame for the way they are, when it actually comes down to a fear of effecting the necessary changes themselves.


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04 Jun 2016, 10:04 pm

ZombieBrideXD wrote:
bullying is a social formality in children and young adults- most children get bullied and are bullies


None of these is true (only a small minority of students take part in actual bullying, and it's only done towards a small minority of students), and assuming the prior is a very toxic attitude towards bullying.


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04 Jun 2016, 10:23 pm

I don't hate neurotypicals, I wish I was one. Life's been hard so far.



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04 Jun 2016, 10:29 pm

Ganondox wrote:
ZombieBrideXD wrote:
bullying is a social formality in children and young adults- most children get bullied and are bullies


None of these is true (only a small minority of students take part in actual bullying, and it's only done towards a small minority of students), and assuming the prior is a very toxic attitude towards bullying.


A minority of students admit to bullying or are reported as bullies but all children bully at some point, even I was a bully at one point, and I also had a whole classroom taking part in teasing. We learned it in my psychology course.


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04 Jun 2016, 10:34 pm

With men ,insulting is a bonding ritual but autistics either take the insults personally or come back with an insult that 'goes too far' because the autistic has no natural instinct for this behavior.
Women face different challenges.



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04 Jun 2016, 10:51 pm

It's not surprising our wide eurodiverse membership gets a bit down on NTs when NT members come here to post hateful stuff - though fortunately that's not too common.

What is common is the constant assumption from the "normal majority" planet that NT ways are always and automatically the right way to do or understand something, while ASD ways and perspectives are automatically wrong/inferior/less valid which is based on the foundation assumption of NT superiority in all ways and things. Perhaps that's what most gets backs up here - it's not only the arrogance of the naturally superior NT view in itself, but the blindness of most NTs to the fact that they even hold such dominating and dehumanising opinions, which are then bandied about so often as if they were "just facts of life" that "everyone knows".

The neurodiverse get fed up often with being targets of NT prejudices and myths.



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04 Jun 2016, 10:58 pm

I started on this site when I was 16, now 26, and I noticed the vast majority of NT hate was coming from teenagers. I don't really notice this as much now because I don't feed the NT hate vibe like I did was a teenager. I think it may largely stem from them feeling the world is against them. I too felt that way a bit ago and I understand where the hate comes from. I'm not saying it's only younger people but that's what I observed as a younger WPer.

I now just see NT's as people who I can't really relate to and that's not much to be mad about.


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04 Jun 2016, 11:01 pm

tinky2 wrote:
I started on this site when I was 16, now 26, and I noticed the vast majority of NT hate was coming from teenagers. I don't really notice this as much now because I don't feed the NT hate vibe like I did was a teenager. I think it may largely stem from them feeling the world is against them. I too felt that way a bit ago and I understand where the hate comes from. I'm not saying it's only younger people but that's what I observed as a younger WPer.

I now just see NT's as people who I can't really relate to and that's not much to be mad about.


What's with the new account?


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04 Jun 2016, 11:06 pm

I'm not too fond of all the NT hatred either.



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04 Jun 2016, 11:15 pm

League_Girl wrote:
tinky2 wrote:
I started on this site when I was 16, now 26, and I noticed the vast majority of NT hate was coming from teenagers. I don't really notice this as much now because I don't feed the NT hate vibe like I did was a teenager. I think it may largely stem from them feeling the world is against them. I too felt that way a bit ago and I understand where the hate comes from. I'm not saying it's only younger people but that's what I observed as a younger WPer.

I now just see NT's as people who I can't really relate to and that's not much to be mad about.


What's with the new account?


Oh, greetings, League_Girl, haven't seen you much around for awhile but on Facebook. I can't seem to get in to my old account and I'm starting to wonder if somehow my account was fiddled with while I was away. The email associated with 'tinky' was [email protected] and by golly am I the lucky duck because Yahoo! recycled that email. I have contacted Alex on facebook and I guess he's too busy these days so I'm just sorta stuck in a new account.


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04 Jun 2016, 11:39 pm

The fact that "NT" hatred exists ironically proves that it's unjustified and that an autistic person can be just as much of an a**hole as anyone else.


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04 Jun 2016, 11:48 pm

B19 wrote:
...the constant assumption from the "normal majority" planet that NT ways are always and automatically the right way to do or understand something, while ASD ways and perspectives are automatically wrong/inferior/less valid...

This concept can fit any majority group at one time or another. For example, as a blind person, I feel that many people see the "blind" first, and then the person. They can't imagine how I do things that they need their vision to do. Then, some of them assume I probably can't do those things and might not even give me a chance to prove them wrong. They may not even be aware of their own assumptions.

ZombieBrideXD, the assumptions made about you and your family, based solely on race, are even worse with all the name-calling and character-bashing.



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04 Jun 2016, 11:58 pm

ZombieBrideXD wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
ZombieBrideXD wrote:
bullying is a social formality in children and young adults- most children get bullied and are bullies


None of these is true (only a small minority of students take part in actual bullying, and it's only done towards a small minority of students), and assuming the prior is a very toxic attitude towards bullying.


A minority of students admit to bullying or are reported as bullies but all children bully at some point, even I was a bully at one point, and I also had a whole classroom taking part in teasing. We learned it in my psychology course.


Yeah, everyone is mean to each other at some point, but that's not the same as bullying. Bullying is persistent harassment of someone in order to exact control over them, and it's not a behavior most people indulge in.


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