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Quille
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01 Dec 2017, 5:37 am

So i went to the psychiatrist to talk about the possibilty of asperger's. I told him about my problems related to autism. At the end of the conversation he told me that i do not have it. He said that i can't have it because
- Im interested in psychology and human interactions
- I was pretty normal as a child and i had one friend
- People with asperger's do not feel akward while talking to other's, they think what they're doing is normal.
- They often cannot see all of those symptoms that i see
He also told me that ''it's probably student's of medicine syndrome, they can find every symptom of specific disorder in theirselfs''. I felt that he had marginalised all of my symptoms and i cannot deny that i dont feel satisfied.
What do you think about it? Should i search for second opinion or let it be.


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01 Dec 2017, 5:48 am

You may not have autism but his arguments are very poor and show he doesn't know much about ASD. So yes, you can seek a second opinion and look for someone with more knowledge about ASD.


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01 Dec 2017, 5:50 am

Define yourself. I could tell people all day how much noise and light bother me, and instead of hearing me say noise and light bother me, they'll just think I'm exaggerating and in a bad mood. Nothing wrong with going to professionals or getting a diagnosis, but there's also a danger in seeking a validation from others which you can give to yourself.



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01 Dec 2017, 7:05 am

I decided that if I posted my thoughts about the person you had seen the post would probably breach the terms of service.

Instead it may be more helpful to post what I would expect to be told from a negative diagnosis :
1. that I did not appear to demonstrate deficits in social communication or social imagination
2. i did not display repetitive or stereotyped behaviours, or unusually intense or restricted interests
3. i did not display an unusual sensory profile, which had hyper or hypo sensitivities to certain stimuli
4. Anything which might be present in the above did not seem to cause me significant life difficulties, and especially in the areas or finding or retaining employment, being housed, maintaining usual social or other relationships, or being able to live independently and function in the world at large.

Now if this was a preliminary inquiry with a view to the Possibility of my being on the spectrum, I would expect some feedback on whether what I described might fit such categories and perhaps being directed to some screening tools which could give some hints one way or the other.

Some Aspies are not awkward with others, but have a conversation style which is quite distinct - EG long accounts of our favourite subjects. Others of us find "Unstructured" time with others painfully awkward but structured times with some purpose OK.

My observations are that in the population in general people tend to have more than one friend in their young years.

We can be unaware of how we come across, or our tendency to detail focus can make us very aware of what we do.

<humour> I am probably going to let the spectrum down here by actually making some effort to see things from a psychiatrist's perspective. </humour> Psychiatrists may see a lot of patients where delusion is involved somewhere in the patients conditions. This may set up a habit of unconsciously thinking every person who approaches them has a delusion of some sort. This unfortunately sets up a risk that every patient who has seen signs of something such as autism is dismissed as a matter of course as having some delusions based on having read something in a book or online and selecte any evidence from their life which might fit.



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01 Dec 2017, 9:29 am

I agree wit all three of these responses.

His reasons for saying no suggest he is not familiar with ASD diagnosis.

I suggested to my CBT councilor the possibility that I was Asperger's, she laughed and said no, definitely not. Seven years latter I was diagnosed Asperger's. I would have asked for an assessment much earlier if not for that councilor who should have responded with 'I don't know, you need to have an assessment from someone familiar with ASD.'

But I don't think you should concentrate too much on the diagnosis, it might help you to understand some of the issues you have but they will still exist. Your probably best off sticking around here for a bit, either you'll find it makes sense or it doesn't, your welcome either way.



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01 Dec 2017, 9:33 am

Quote:
People with asperger's do not feel akward while talking to other's,


This is actually a symptom of social anxiety so I will agree with him there what he said. But lot of autistic people have social anxiety but I think that is due to years of rejection and getting people upset and offended and giving them the wrong impression and being judged.


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01 Dec 2017, 2:47 pm

League_Girl wrote:
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People with asperger's do not feel akward while talking to other's,


This is actually a symptom of social anxiety so I will agree with him there what he said. But lot of autistic people have social anxiety but I think that is due to years of rejection and getting people upset and offended and giving them the wrong impression and being judged.


But he said this as they just cannot feel awkward. And i feel awkward thus i can't have Asperger syndrome


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01 Dec 2017, 2:52 pm

Just because you're interested in human interactions doesn't mean anything. Many aspies are interested in interactions and just don't know how to interpret them. And many aspies had one friend, and sometimes more. And we can see our symptoms.

None of what the psychiatrist had said makes any sense. Perhaps a second opinion is a good idea.


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04 Dec 2017, 12:20 pm

Quille wrote:
. He said that i can't have it because
- Im interested in psychology and human interactions
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Ah, but How interested I wonder.
Would it be intense enough to be labelled a "Special Interest"



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04 Dec 2017, 1:19 pm

rowan_nichol wrote:
Quille wrote:
. He said that i can't have it because
- Im interested in psychology and human interactions
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Ah, but How interested I wonder.
Would it be intense enough to be labelled a "Special Interest"


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05 Dec 2017, 12:15 pm

rowan_nichol wrote:
Quille wrote:
. He said that i can't have it because
- Im interested in psychology and human interactions
.


Ah, but How interested I wonder.
Would it be intense enough to be labelled a "Special Interest"


Yeah, i belive so. But apparently, according to him, this cannot be one's special interest.


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05 Dec 2017, 12:59 pm

None of the things he mentioned should rule it out, Quille. And there has been at least one other member who had psychology as her special interest (zeldapsychology).


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05 Dec 2017, 1:06 pm

Why do people want so hard to be Asperger's? Your doctor ruled it out, be glad! If you suspect the professional is wrong, find a second opinion. Don't come to forum asking what people think.



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05 Dec 2017, 1:24 pm

MagicKnight wrote:
Why do people want so hard to be Asperger's? Your doctor ruled it out, be glad! If you suspect the professional is wrong, find a second opinion. Don't come to forum asking what people think.


He isn't saying he wants to be Asperger's, he's saying he thinks he is but that the professional said no and do we think that professional could be wrong. Why can't he come on this forum and ask us that? If you just didn't like the question, why didn't you just ignore it?



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06 Dec 2017, 4:58 am

MagicKnight wrote:
Why do people want so hard to be Asperger's? Your doctor ruled it out, be glad! If you suspect the professional is wrong, find a second opinion. Don't come to forum asking what people think.

I guess people do not want to have Asperger's they want to have an answer why they are different, where their trouble comes from. A diagnosis of Asperger's is an answer, ruling it out means one still needs to search for it.


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06 Dec 2017, 5:10 am

magz wrote:
MagicKnight wrote:
Why do people want so hard to be Asperger's? Your doctor ruled it out, be glad! If you suspect the professional is wrong, find a second opinion. Don't come to forum asking what people think.

I guess people do not want to have Asperger's they want to have an answer why they are different, where their trouble comes from. A diagnosis of Asperger's is an answer, ruling it out means one still needs to search for it.


exactly.

For me, I know I am different. I know that somewhere I am ND and not NT. I have had an ADHD assessment previously and was told I only have 'traits' which I feel doesn't cut it for me so I keep searching. I just feel like there is this weird world that I'm trapped in and everyone around me has a manual. I was never given a manual so I'm driving this human blind without any lessons. All I want is to find a room full of people who understand me, understand how I function and know the difficulties I face amongst a world full of aliens. And I just want to sit down, smile and just relax for once.

I don't want to be ND, or aspie or whatever, and I assume the OP doesn't either. But just to have someone say "This is what you are" I can at least look at a planet and say - "This is my home, these are my people." instead of wandering around a planet full of aliens that I just can't simply associate with - it's such a lonely feeling.


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