Sometimes, I wish people would just leave me alone

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27 Jun 2018, 2:39 am

Yesterday afternoon, I was out for a walk along the cliff footpath with my dog Poppy, a 7 year-old Basset Hound. Normally, it's a nice quiet walk and I generally meet fewer than five people. This day was pretty good as there was only a man and his Husky/Lab cross who I've seen before and I got to pet his really fluffy dog. The next two people were a pair of elderly hikers to whom I said a brief hello. They liked my dog and she sat with them for a few seconds before I called her to me. This was all expected and fine - just a quick "good afternoon" and a short chat with the husky man. Nothing too exhausting.

Fifteen minutes later and I was headed to a small wooden bench set near the edge of the cliff where I like to sit and watch the sea, hoping to see some sharks or dolphins, perhaps even a whale or sunfish (it never happens, but I live in hope). Anyway, I was about 200 yards from the bench and saw a woman walking along another path that converges with mine at the exact point where my little bench sits. I knew I would get there first and be able to claim the bench as mine and all would be well. I sat down and Poppy snuffled around in the long grass looking for bugs.

Shortly, I felt the presence of someone coming up behind me. It was the woman and she asked if she could sit beside me. Damn it! I knew what would happen if she sat down - she would feel the need to speak to me as most people seem uncomfortable with silence feel the need to need to fill any dead-space with chatter. So I got up to leave, mumbling something about how "it's okay" and she could sit and I'd leave. She then says "Oh, don't go. I'll go". How on earth do I politely reply to that? "Oh okay, please go away and leave me in peace"?

So Poppy and I head back to the car park, both sad that we didn't get to sit and watch the sea, searching in vain for creatures that would never appear :(

I so wish people would just leave me alone.


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27 Jun 2018, 2:44 am

On another occasion, I had a noisy family walk several hundred yards down a completely deserted, half-mile long beach to sit six feet away from me, probably thinking that I'd be grateful of the company. After ten minutes of screaming kids and shouting adults, I left the beach. I know I could have just moved away from them but at that point I was so upset I just had to go home.


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27 Jun 2018, 3:00 am

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Yesterday afternoon, I was out for a walk along the cliff footpath with my dog Poppy, a 7 year-old Basset Hound. Normally, it's a nice quiet walk and I generally meet fewer than five people. This day was pretty good as there was only a man and his Husky/Lab cross who I've seen before and I got to pet his really fluffy dog. The next two people were a pair of elderly hikers to whom I said a brief hello. They liked my dog and she sat with them for a few seconds before I called her to me. This was all expected and fine - just a quick "good afternoon" and a short chat with the husky man. Nothing too exhausting.

Fifteen minutes later and I was headed to a small wooden bench set near the edge of the cliff where I like to sit and watch the sea, hoping to see some sharks or dolphins, perhaps even a whale or sunfish (it never happens, but I live in hope). Anyway, I was about 200 yards from the bench and saw a woman walking along another path that converges with mine at the exact point where my little bench sits. I knew I would get there first and be able to claim the bench as mine and all would be well. I sat down and Poppy snuffled around in the long grass looking for bugs.

Shortly, I felt the presence of someone coming up behind me. It was the woman and she asked if she could sit beside me. Damn it! I knew what would happen if she sat down - she would feel the need to speak to me as most people seem uncomfortable with silence feel the need to need to fill any dead-space with chatter. So I got up to leave, mumbling something about how "it's okay" and she could sit and I'd leave. She then says "Oh, don't go. I'll go". How on earth do I politely reply to that? "Oh okay, please go away and leave me in peace"?

So Poppy and I head back to the car park, both sad that we didn't get to sit and watch the sea, searching in vain for creatures that would never appear :(

I so wish people would just leave me alone.


I think you were a little presumptuous. She may have not had any interest in a conversation. When she asked if she could sit down (she did not need your permission to do so but she was trying to be considerate) you could have said "Of course, but I hope you don't mind my silence."



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27 Jun 2018, 3:30 am

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I think you were a little presumptuous. She may have not had any interest in a conversation. When she asked if she could sit down (she did not need your permission to do so but she was trying to be considerate) you could have said "Of course, but I hope you don't mind my silence."

Of course I was presumptuous and she may not have made conversation. However she did intrude on my solitude. I know it's not her fault and she had every right to sit there but if I see someone sitting alone with no one else in sight for about a mile in either direction, I would leave them alone and find somewhere else to sit. Maybe, that's just me.


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27 Jun 2018, 8:23 am

It's not just you.



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27 Jun 2018, 8:26 am

Maybe the lady needed a friend...

Saying this, I also identify with your desire for solitude.



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27 Jun 2018, 4:45 pm

I typically don't have conversations with those sitting next to me. A while back I was sitting at a table in a food court that sat about 8 people fairly close together. I was sitting there by myself for quite a while and at some point, two women came along and sat at the far end facing each other to eat lunch. They had planned to have lunch with a number of friends, apparently and soon I was sitting at a table with 7 strangers. At this point they were probably wondering why I didn't leave though they never asked me (I was there first) and I stayed until I was tired of sitting there and it was time to go home.



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27 Jun 2018, 8:36 pm

I always end up being the one who leaves in those situations. If I see someone on a bench or at a table, I find another bench or table.



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28 Jun 2018, 1:43 am

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I typically don't have conversations with those sitting next to me. A while back I was sitting at a table in a food court that sat about 8 people fairly close together. I was sitting there by myself for quite a while and at some point, two women came along and sat at the far end facing each other to eat lunch. They had planned to have lunch with a number of friends, apparently and soon I was sitting at a table with 7 strangers. At this point they were probably wondering why I didn't leave though they never asked me (I was there first) and I stayed until I was tired of sitting there and it was time to go home.

In a full cafeteria, at least that's understandable. If, on the other hand, most or all of the tables were empty, it would be damned weird! In this instance, I'd probably do what you did and remain until I was finished as 1) I wouldn't expect to remain alone on a large table in a busy cafeteria, 2) leaving and moving to another table would make me feel even more self-conscious and 3) I'm known to be pretty stubborn :) Then again, I only eat out once a year and that's with my wife and children. If others tried to muscle-in on our table they'd be told to bugger off :)


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28 Jun 2018, 2:03 am

Chronos wrote:
liveandrew wrote:
Yesterday afternoon, I was out for a walk along the cliff footpath with my dog Poppy, a 7 year-old Basset Hound. Normally, it's a nice quiet walk and I generally meet fewer than five people. This day was pretty good as there was only a man and his Husky/Lab cross who I've seen before and I got to pet his really fluffy dog. The next two people were a pair of elderly hikers to whom I said a brief hello. They liked my dog and she sat with them for a few seconds before I called her to me. This was all expected and fine - just a quick "good afternoon" and a short chat with the husky man. Nothing too exhausting.

Fifteen minutes later and I was headed to a small wooden bench set near the edge of the cliff where I like to sit and watch the sea, hoping to see some sharks or dolphins, perhaps even a whale or sunfish (it never happens, but I live in hope). Anyway, I was about 200 yards from the bench and saw a woman walking along another path that converges with mine at the exact point where my little bench sits. I knew I would get there first and be able to claim the bench as mine and all would be well. I sat down and Poppy snuffled around in the long grass looking for bugs.

Shortly, I felt the presence of someone coming up behind me. It was the woman and she asked if she could sit beside me. Damn it! I knew what would happen if she sat down - she would feel the need to speak to me as most people seem uncomfortable with silence feel the need to need to fill any dead-space with chatter. So I got up to leave, mumbling something about how "it's okay" and she could sit and I'd leave. She then says "Oh, don't go. I'll go". How on earth do I politely reply to that? "Oh okay, please go away and leave me in peace"?

So Poppy and I head back to the car park, both sad that we didn't get to sit and watch the sea, searching in vain for creatures that would never appear :(

I so wish people would just leave me alone.


I think you were a little presumptuous. She may have not had any interest in a conversation. When she asked if she could sit down (she did not need your permission to do so but she was trying to be considerate) you could have said "Of course, but I hope you don't mind my silence."


I agree. Maybe she wanted to quietly watch the ocean, too.


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28 Jun 2018, 2:40 am

Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
Chronos wrote:
I think you were a little presumptuous. She may have not had any interest in a conversation. When she asked if she could sit down (she did not need your permission to do so but she was trying to be considerate) you could have said "Of course, but I hope you don't mind my silence."


I agree. Maybe she wanted to quietly watch the ocean, too.

Of course that was what she wanted to do, why else would she sit at a bench facing the sea? The point is that she could have done that anywhere else along the coastal path (it is 630 miles long, after all) and not two feet from where I was sitting! In fact, there's the remains of an Iron Age promontory fort with a beautiful view just a couple of hundred yards further long the path and another bench a few hundred yards in the other direction.


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28 Jun 2018, 2:59 am

I wish I got that sort of attention from strangers. Whenever I smile at dog-walkers they just scowl and turn away. It's hard to not take personally, because if I was anyone else they'd smile back or say hello.

I feel complimented when I do get a stranger strike up a conversation with me, although it's mostly elderly people.


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28 Jun 2018, 3:59 am

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I wish I got that sort of attention from strangers. Whenever I smile at dog-walkers they just scowl and turn away. It's hard to not take personally, because if I was anyone else they'd smile back or say hello.

I feel complimented when I do get a stranger strike up a conversation with me, although it's mostly elderly people.

I always say hello to everyone I meet when walking my dog. Most return the greeting but it does upset me a little when they don't. I have found that it's mostly the people in their teens and twenties who ignore me. Normally when walking in town, I just keep my head down but dog walking in the countryside is a special case.


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28 Jun 2018, 5:13 am

liveandrew wrote:
Benjamin the Donkey wrote:
Chronos wrote:
I think you were a little presumptuous. She may have not had any interest in a conversation. When she asked if she could sit down (she did not need your permission to do so but she was trying to be considerate) you could have said "Of course, but I hope you don't mind my silence."


I agree. Maybe she wanted to quietly watch the ocean, too.

Of course that was what she wanted to do, why else would she sit at a bench facing the sea? The point is that she could have done that anywhere else along the coastal path (it is 630 miles long, after all) and not two feet from where I was sitting! In fact, there's the remains of an Iron Age promontory fort with a beautiful view just a couple of hundred yards further long the path and another bench a few hundred yards in the other direction.


I understand that you have a personal attachment to that particular bench, she may also feel the same way about the bench too.

If it happens again, maybe try moving yourself to either the fort or the other bench. I think this would have been a better solution that allowing this experience to spoil your day.



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28 Jun 2018, 5:23 am

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I understand that you have a personal attachment to that particular bench, she may also feel the same way about the bench too.

If it happens again, maybe try moving yourself to either the fort or the other bench. I think this would have been a better solution that allowing this experience to spoil your day.

1) I have no personal attachment to that particular bench. Why would I, it's a bench?
2) Who said it spoilt my day? I was sad that I couldn't sit in peace on my own. That sadness lasted a few minutes!

I'm regretting posting this and only did so as I thought others may be understanding of my need for solitude. It's not particularly about this woman or this location, it's about the need for peace and quiet away from others.

I give up.


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28 Jun 2018, 5:39 am

That never happens to me, I guess it's because I come off as unapproachable, distant and weird? I don't know. (No, I don't look intimidating if anyone wonders)

It's not just you though, I would assume the same thing, that the person sitting alone probably wants to be alone.

Small talk irritates me, strangers randomly talking to me can freak me out, so I'm glad it rarely happens to me. I wish I knew why so I could tell you how to act in order to avoid attention but I don't really know why.