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27 Apr 2023, 10:14 am

I don't know how to shop for clothes on my own. I always had to rely on my parents. I tried to buy some clothes on my own a few times and I failed miserably. I didn't know how to properly interact with the shopkeeper and I ended up getting overpriced clothes that don't fit me and don't look good on me. One time I got cheated by an as*hole salesman when I bought a pair of pants and found that the material was tearing when I returned home. These s**t experiences made my confidence zero. How can I become an expert at buying clothes with my s**t social skills?



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27 Apr 2023, 6:05 pm

I hate buying clothes too. My first attempt was a complete failure and I fled from the shop empty-handed. In hindsight, it was a very trendy shop and I think I sensed the people there would be very "in the know" about fashion and would see me as an imbecile or not one of their kind, so I felt inferior and out of my depth. It was quite a shock because I'd just found a load of friendly people to live among, and I'd begun to think myself socially adept.

It might help to try using shops that are self-service so you haven't got assistants watching you. I buy most of my clothes from second-hand charity shops where the staff don't seem to think they're superior to me. The prices are so low that it doesn't matter if I buy something that doesn't turn out to suit me. It helps to avoid the shop's most busy times. I've considered measuring the best-fitting clothes I own and marking a strip of cardboard with a few key dimensions so that I can take it with me to more easily find out what will fit me well and what won't. There are some shops I'd feel embarrassed to use it in, but the second-hand stores are usually full of eccentric people anyway, and I don't think I'd stand out as weird there. The other thing is that it's sometimes possible to just brazen it out regardless of what the staff think. They can't do you any actual harm and it's not as if you're going to become friends with them. I can brazen it out like that sometimes, but it depends how confident I happen to feel at the time.



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27 Apr 2023, 6:53 pm

I love clothes shopping, except they keep taking away my favourite clothes stores so now I am forced to do clothes shopping online which takes the fun out of it. :roll:

Anyway, to go clothes shopping all you need to do is look for the clothes in your size, pick out your size and one size up from the rail, take them into the fitting rooms, and see if they're comfortable enough for you or if you feel they look good on you. If they don't fit then go for a different size.

You don't need to get the shop assistant involved.


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28 Apr 2023, 12:28 am

Joe90 wrote:
I love clothes shopping, except they keep taking away my favourite clothes stores so now I am forced to do clothes shopping online which takes the fun out of it. :roll:

Anyway, to go clothes shopping all you need to do is look for the clothes in your size, pick out your size and one size up from the rail, take them into the fitting rooms, and see if they're comfortable enough for you or if you feel they look good on you. If they don't fit then go for a different size.

You don't need to get the shop assistant involved.


This would be possible if I was in a first world country. I live in a third world s**thole where most of the affordable shops have a system where I can't buy anything without getting the shop owner involved. I have to describe to them what I want, give them the measurements, they will pick out something and no I can't try them on. The self-service shop systems like you describe are available here too but those shops are way out of my price range, like average price for clothes there is around 30-40 dollars



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28 Apr 2023, 12:34 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
I hate buying clothes too. My first attempt was a complete failure and I fled from the shop empty-handed. In hindsight, it was a very trendy shop and I think I sensed the people there would be very "in the know" about fashion and would see me as an imbecile or not one of their kind, so I felt inferior and out of my depth. It was quite a shock because I'd just found a load of friendly people to live among, and I'd begun to think myself socially adept.

It might help to try using shops that are self-service so you haven't got assistants watching you. I buy most of my clothes from second-hand charity shops where the staff don't seem to think they're superior to me. The prices are so low that it doesn't matter if I buy something that doesn't turn out to suit me. It helps to avoid the shop's most busy times. I've considered measuring the best-fitting clothes I own and marking a strip of cardboard with a few key dimensions so that I can take it with me to more easily find out what will fit me well and what won't. There are some shops I'd feel embarrassed to use it in, but the second-hand stores are usually full of eccentric people anyway, and I don't think I'd stand out as weird there. The other thing is that it's sometimes possible to just brazen it out regardless of what the staff think. They can't do you any actual harm and it's not as if you're going to become friends with them. I can brazen it out like that sometimes, but it depends how confident I happen to feel at the time.


Thanks man really helpful advice. The only issue is that self-service shops are expensive where I live. I guess I have no other option.



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28 Apr 2023, 5:06 am

xxautisticfoolxx wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
I love clothes shopping, except they keep taking away my favourite clothes stores so now I am forced to do clothes shopping online which takes the fun out of it. :roll:

Anyway, to go clothes shopping all you need to do is look for the clothes in your size, pick out your size and one size up from the rail, take them into the fitting rooms, and see if they're comfortable enough for you or if you feel they look good on you. If they don't fit then go for a different size.

You don't need to get the shop assistant involved.


This would be possible if I was in a first world country. I live in a third world s**thole where most of the affordable shops have a system where I can't buy anything without getting the shop owner involved. I have to describe to them what I want, give them the measurements, they will pick out something and no I can't try them on. The self-service shop systems like you describe are available here too but those shops are way out of my price range, like average price for clothes there is around 30-40 dollars


Sorry, I didn't know which country you lived in.


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28 Apr 2023, 8:31 am

xxautisticfoolxx wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
I love clothes shopping, except they keep taking away my favourite clothes stores so now I am forced to do clothes shopping online which takes the fun out of it. :roll:

Anyway, to go clothes shopping all you need to do is look for the clothes in your size, pick out your size and one size up from the rail, take them into the fitting rooms, and see if they're comfortable enough for you or if you feel they look good on you. If they don't fit then go for a different size.

You don't need to get the shop assistant involved.


This would be possible if I was in a first world country. I live in a third world s**thole where most of the affordable shops have a system where I can't buy anything without getting the shop owner involved. I have to describe to them what I want, give them the measurements, they will pick out something and no I can't try them on. The self-service shop systems like you describe are available here too but those shops are way out of my price range, like average price for clothes there is around 30-40 dollars


That takes me back to my time in China. Which as a relatively large man by American standards, I was more or less a giant in terms of Chinese sizes. I literally left a store one time with a size XXXXXXXL coat. And I was fortunate enough not to have to try to buy shoes as I don't know that I could even get ones that would fit.

Personally, what I would do is give them an approved list of colors and a price and pretty much just buy whatever it is that matches those two criteria and be done with it. (If you are sensitive to certain fabrics, obviously include that information)

This is a really good example of why so many of us have uniforms that we wear. Mine is relatively relaxed compared with other people as I can wear khaki or blue pants, and shirts in green, blue, white, grey or black and T-shirts unless I'm doing something that requires a collar, in which case, it's a shirt with a collar in the same set of colors. They basically all look OK together.

Or, just insist on some sort of neutral tone for the pants like grey and then just take whatever color they give you, provided it's in your budget and an acceptable fabric for the rest of it.



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28 Apr 2023, 8:44 am

I myself came from a developing country.
Or, one of those so-called 'third world country'.

I don't have this problem.
But then, different cultures, different settings.

Since it's not a "first world" setting and it's a "third world" setting, then what type of shops do you go to? I'll see if I can discern or even deduce...

Or, just specify where you came from and describe it.


But sure.
A list of specifications would do.
Or, elsewhere where one doesn't need to involve the shop owner.


Wait, really?! 30-40 USD equivalents?
That sounds fricking fancy for a piece of clothing in my opinion. I'll have better chance finding something online.


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28 Apr 2023, 9:49 am

Edna3362 wrote:
I myself came from a developing country.
Or, one of those so-called 'third world country'.

I don't have this problem.
But then, different cultures, different settings.

Since it's not a "first world" setting and it's a "third world" setting, then what type of shops do you go to? I'll see if I can discern or even deduce...

Or, just specify where you came from and describe it.


But sure.
A list of specifications would do.
Or, elsewhere where one doesn't need to involve the shop owner.


Wait, really?! 30-40 USD equivalents?
That sounds fricking fancy for a piece of clothing in my opinion. I'll have better chance finding something online.


My country is Bangladesh. I have tried shops that offer cheaper clothes, like 5-15 dollars range. But those shops are typically either roadside shops or small shops in a shopping mall. Typically a few ppl sit there and anything you want to buy you have to discuss with them first. Most of the ppl here buy their clothes from places like these because it's cheaper.

Yes, 30-40 dollars. I have no idea why clothes are so freaking expensive in self-service shops in my area.



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28 Apr 2023, 9:57 am

xxautisticfoolxx wrote:
Edna3362 wrote:
I myself came from a developing country.
Or, one of those so-called 'third world country'.

I don't have this problem.
But then, different cultures, different settings.

Since it's not a "first world" setting and it's a "third world" setting, then what type of shops do you go to? I'll see if I can discern or even deduce...

Or, just specify where you came from and describe it.


But sure.
A list of specifications would do.
Or, elsewhere where one doesn't need to involve the shop owner.


Wait, really?! 30-40 USD equivalents?
That sounds fricking fancy for a piece of clothing in my opinion. I'll have better chance finding something online.


My country is Bangladesh. I have tried shops that offer cheaper clothes, like 5-15 dollars range. But those shops are typically either roadside shops or small shops in a shopping mall. Typically a few ppl sit there and anything you want to buy you have to discuss with them first. Most of the ppl here buy their clothes from places like these because it's cheaper.

Yes, 30-40 dollars. I have no idea why clothes are so freaking expensive in self-service shops in my area.

Part of that is probably rent and maintenance on the shop. Is it normal to pay sticker price there, or are you supposed to haggle down to something more appropriate?

If the price gap is that large, would it be possible to hire somebody to just do the shopping for a portion of the difference in price?



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28 Apr 2023, 11:11 am

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
xxautisticfoolxx wrote:
Edna3362 wrote:
I myself came from a developing country.
Or, one of those so-called 'third world country'.

I don't have this problem.
But then, different cultures, different settings.

Since it's not a "first world" setting and it's a "third world" setting, then what type of shops do you go to? I'll see if I can discern or even deduce...

Or, just specify where you came from and describe it.


But sure.
A list of specifications would do.
Or, elsewhere where one doesn't need to involve the shop owner.


Wait, really?! 30-40 USD equivalents?
That sounds fricking fancy for a piece of clothing in my opinion. I'll have better chance finding something online.


My country is Bangladesh. I have tried shops that offer cheaper clothes, like 5-15 dollars range. But those shops are typically either roadside shops or small shops in a shopping mall. Typically a few ppl sit there and anything you want to buy you have to discuss with them first. Most of the ppl here buy their clothes from places like these because it's cheaper.

Yes, 30-40 dollars. I have no idea why clothes are so freaking expensive in self-service shops in my area.

Part of that is probably rent and maintenance on the shop. Is it normal to pay sticker price there, or are you supposed to haggle down to something more appropriate?

If the price gap is that large, would it be possible to hire somebody to just do the shopping for a portion of the difference in price?


I guess you are right, it's the rent and maintenance for a shop in an expensive shopping mall.

Haggling only works in the cheaper shops where self-service isn't available. Besides, I am not good at haggling anyway.

Wish I knew how to hire someone like that. I could maybe ask random ppl but that could come with potential risks.



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28 Apr 2023, 11:55 am

xxautisticfoolxx wrote:
This would be possible if I was in a first world country. I live in a third world s**thole where most of the affordable shops have a system where I can't buy anything without getting the shop owner involved. I have to describe to them what I want, give them the measurements, they will pick out something and no I can't try them on. The self-service shop systems like you describe are available here too but those shops are way out of my price range, like average price for clothes there is around 30-40 dollars


30-40 (American?) dollars for what?

Here in Canada, I can buy 4 new white t-shirts for $20 or so at Costco, and a new pair of jeans for $18.99. (Costco) Or I could find some designer brand t-shirt for $40-60+, even $100+. I could find "regular," jeans for $60-100, or designer jeans for several hundred dollars/pair. There's a HUGE range of prices for clothing as clothing has some of the highest profit margins of any manufactured goods - especially for fancy designer stuff.

Curious what you get for $30-40.

Also seems very strange that people cannot try clothing on anywhere before buying. Here, there are places (like Costco) where you can't try anything on as there are no fitting rooms.. BUT, you can return anything for refund or exchange it for another size or entirely different item etc so you're almost never stuck with something you can't take back.

Do small shopkeepers offer any sort of return or exchange policy? Or return with some small restocking fee? Perhaps this is something you could negotiate with some shop owner that sells clothing you like. Get them to agree to exchange it for something else if it doesn't fit and in return you'll be a loyal customer and return there to make additional purchases.


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28 Apr 2023, 1:47 pm

xxautisticfoolxx wrote:
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
xxautisticfoolxx wrote:
Edna3362 wrote:
I myself came from a developing country.
Or, one of those so-called 'third world country'.

I don't have this problem.
But then, different cultures, different settings.

Since it's not a "first world" setting and it's a "third world" setting, then what type of shops do you go to? I'll see if I can discern or even deduce...

Or, just specify where you came from and describe it.


But sure.
A list of specifications would do.
Or, elsewhere where one doesn't need to involve the shop owner.


Wait, really?! 30-40 USD equivalents?
That sounds fricking fancy for a piece of clothing in my opinion. I'll have better chance finding something online.


My country is Bangladesh. I have tried shops that offer cheaper clothes, like 5-15 dollars range. But those shops are typically either roadside shops or small shops in a shopping mall. Typically a few ppl sit there and anything you want to buy you have to discuss with them first. Most of the ppl here buy their clothes from places like these because it's cheaper.

Yes, 30-40 dollars. I have no idea why clothes are so freaking expensive in self-service shops in my area.

Part of that is probably rent and maintenance on the shop. Is it normal to pay sticker price there, or are you supposed to haggle down to something more appropriate?

If the price gap is that large, would it be possible to hire somebody to just do the shopping for a portion of the difference in price?


I guess you are right, it's the rent and maintenance for a shop in an expensive shopping mall.

Haggling only works in the cheaper shops where self-service isn't available. Besides, I am not good at haggling anyway.

Wish I knew how to hire someone like that. I could maybe ask random ppl but that could come with potential risks.

Every country is a little different in terms of when haggling is acceptable and how it's done. Just about everything in China could be haggled, in the US, only a short list of things can be haggled though.

I would personally start with neighbors, family and their friends as shopping for clothes is probably something that can be done a couple times a year, depending on weather and how much you can afford to buy ahead of time.



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29 Apr 2023, 2:10 am

MatchboxVagabond wrote:
xxautisticfoolxx wrote:
MatchboxVagabond wrote:
xxautisticfoolxx wrote:
Edna3362 wrote:
I myself came from a developing country.
Or, one of those so-called 'third world country'.

I don't have this problem.
But then, different cultures, different settings.

Since it's not a "first world" setting and it's a "third world" setting, then what type of shops do you go to? I'll see if I can discern or even deduce...

Or, just specify where you came from and describe it.


But sure.
A list of specifications would do.
Or, elsewhere where one doesn't need to involve the shop owner.


Wait, really?! 30-40 USD equivalents?
That sounds fricking fancy for a piece of clothing in my opinion. I'll have better chance finding something online.


My country is Bangladesh. I have tried shops that offer cheaper clothes, like 5-15 dollars range. But those shops are typically either roadside shops or small shops in a shopping mall. Typically a few ppl sit there and anything you want to buy you have to discuss with them first. Most of the ppl here buy their clothes from places like these because it's cheaper.

Yes, 30-40 dollars. I have no idea why clothes are so freaking expensive in self-service shops in my area.

Part of that is probably rent and maintenance on the shop. Is it normal to pay sticker price there, or are you supposed to haggle down to something more appropriate?

If the price gap is that large, would it be possible to hire somebody to just do the shopping for a portion of the difference in price?


I guess you are right, it's the rent and maintenance for a shop in an expensive shopping mall.

Haggling only works in the cheaper shops where self-service isn't available. Besides, I am not good at haggling anyway.

Wish I knew how to hire someone like that. I could maybe ask random ppl but that could come with potential risks.

Every country is a little different in terms of when haggling is acceptable and how it's done. Just about everything in China could be haggled, in the US, only a short list of things can be haggled though.

I would personally start with neighbors, family and their friends as shopping for clothes is probably something that can be done a couple times a year, depending on weather and how much you can afford to buy ahead of time.


Neighbors don't give a rats ass about me. Family won't buy stuff for me anymore, they say I am too old to not buy my own clothes. And I have no friends



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29 Apr 2023, 1:24 pm

Do the self service stores ever have discount or clearance racks? That may be one idea if they do.


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29 Apr 2023, 2:07 pm

Unlikely, but:

Does Amazon deliver in your area? At least you can return anything you don’t want to keep and get something else from online retailers.

But you need to have reliable delivery service in your area and Might need to pay for return shipping. And in cases where Amazon pays the return shipping, you would need to have the ability to print the return shipping label either at home or at a shop that does printing.


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