We are *NOT* autistic

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we aren't. we are on the autism spectrum which is DIFFERENT. It is not Autism. We are on the spectrum, but not Auties.

and I think if we even have a Advocacy board, it should be AS advocacy not Autism advocacy! and doesn't that stuff go in the general section anyways?!

The thing is, it's thought to be genetically related, but it isn't the same thing.

I went to a school for aspies and Auties for a few days, and those kids were really bad off. One of the girls just wandered around in circles, acting like no one was there, reciting what seemed to be a line from a movie, over and over and over.

From the home page:

So we cater to people with AS, Autism, ADHD and PDDs. Savvy?

Well as far as I know AS is considered to be on the high-functioning end of the Autism spectrum, so, in a way, we are Auties.

Yeah, but that has changed so many times.

July 3, 2004: "WrongPlanet.net is a web community designed for individuals with Asperger's Syndrome. We provide a forum, where members can communicate with each other, an article section, where members may read and submit essays or how-to guides about various subjects, and a chatroom for real-time communication with other Aspies."

August 28, 2004: "WrongPlanet.net is a web community designed for individuals with Asperger's Syndrome. We provide a forum, where members can communicate with each other, an article section, where members may read and submit essays or how-to guides about various subjects, and a chatroom for real-time communication with other Aspies.

Asperger's Syndrome, a pervasive deveolpment disorder, is a form of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome usually have normal or above normal IQ's. It is described as an inability to understand how to interact socially."


February 2, 2005:"rongPlanet.net is a web community designed for individuals with Asperger's Syndrome, Autism, and other PDDs. We provide a forum, where members can communicate with each other, an article section, where members may read and submit essays or how-to guides about various subjects, and a chatroom for real-time communication with other Aspies.

Asperger's Syndrome is a form of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome usually have normal or above normal IQ's. It is described as an inability to understand how to interact socially."

June 23, 2005: "WrongPlanet.net is a web community designed for individuals with Asperger's Syndrome, Autism, other PDDs, ADD, ADHD, OCD, and other attention behavioral continuum syndromes. We provide a forum, where members can communicate with each other, an article section, where members may read and submit essays or how-to guides about various subjects, and a chatroom for real-time communication with other Aspies.

Asperger's Syndrome is a form of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome usually have normal or above normal IQ's. It is described as an inability to understand how to interact socially."

October 26, 2005: there wasn't even a headline on this date.

October 31 2005: "WrongPlanet.net is a web community designed for individuals with Asperger''s Syndrome. We provide a forum, where members can communicate with each other, an article section, where members may read and submit essays or how-to guides about various subjects, and a chatroom for real-time communication with other Aspies. Asperger''s Syndrome, a pervasive deveolpment disorder, is a form of autism. People with Asperger''s Syndrome usually have normal or above normal IQ''s. It is described as an inability to understand how to interact socially."

November 25, 2005: "WrongPlanet.net is a web community designed for individuals with Asperger''s Syndrome, Autism, ADHD, and other PDDs. We provide a forum, where members can communicate with each other, an article section, where members may read and submit essays or how-to guides about various subjects, and a chatroom for real-time communication with other Aspies. Asperger''s Syndrome, a pervasive deveolpment disorder, is a form of autism. People with Asperger''s Syndrome usually have normal or above normal IQ''s. It is described as an inability to understand how to interact socially. "

April 11, 2006: "WrongPlanet.net is a web community designed for individuals (and parents of those) with Asperger's Syndrome, Autism, ADHD, and other PDDs. We provide a forum, where members can communicate with each other, an article section, where members may read and submit essays or how-to guides about various subjects, and a chatroom for real-time communication with other Aspies. Asperger's Syndrome, a pervasive deveolpment disorder, is a form of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome usually have normal or above normal IQ's. It is described as an inability to understand how to interact socially."

Now: Wrong Planet is the web community designed for individuals (and parents of those) with Asperger's Syndrome, Autism, ADHD, and other PDDs. We provide a discussion forum, where members communicate with each other, an article section, with exclusive articles and how-to guides, a blogging feature, and a chatroom for real-time communication with other Aspies. Asperger's Syndrome, a pervasive development disorder, is a form of autism. People with Asperger's Syndrome usually have normal or above normal IQs. Asperger's can be described as an inability to understand how to interact socially.

From what I've read and what I've been told, Asperger's Syndrome is not related to Autism in any way, just in the same group of developmental disorders as Autism Autism being the major one, which is what they mean by it being "on the Autistic Spectrum."

I may be wrong, I don't give a rat's ass anymore.

It really depends. I think it may be possible for the site administrators to set up another subforum mainly for specific people. Of course, it'd be up to them, though if you get enough support from other members, I'm sure they'll consider it.

Everyone has got solid points, though I must say, I'm not going to really get involved in this topic. Just offering my two cents.

Those in the know know that AS will be changed to either "high-functioning autism" or "Asperger autism" in the next revision of the DSM.

whats the DSM, and how do you know this???

Um. The DSM IV manual book is the standard book of all the various disorders, disabilities and treatments.

It will be interesting. AS is related to Autism at the very least even if Aspies aren't really autistic.

The DSM is what psychologists and psychiatrists use to diagnose psychological and mental disorders in the USA.

How I know I can't say. That's why I said "those in the know".

It's supposed to be a secret.

Just FYI and all:

Asperger's is autism with adequate speech as an adult
Autistic disorder has the same social impairment as Asperger's, but with a severe verbal impairment that continues all throughout life

These are generalizations, but they hold true.

Here.

Historically, they're the same thing.

You'll find that there's many, many individuals with Asperger's who're severely impaired by their disorder (the great majority of, but people tend to overlook this fact); add in a severe verbal impairment to the same social impairment of Asperger's, and of course the individuals with autistic disorder will be severely impaired compared to normal people.

Then you have those in the gray area that the DSM-IV-TR speaks of, where it's impossible to differentiate the two disorders; I kinda fit in here, I have adequate speech now (delay in when little), but I never initiated contact with anyone but my mother as a young child, nor did I participate in imaginative play.

When you look at people like me who fit both the stereotypes of autism and Asperger's, you start to question if they're two distinct disorders rather than an autistic continuum like many people are pushing for.

It's very similar, but it isn't the same thing.

I'm not even sure that i should have posted this now. i'm feeling embarrassed by it.

deciding whether people with aspergers can also be described as being autistic seems a bit nit-picky to me. For myself, it would seem very silly not to accept that I was, in a mild way, autistis, since I am diagnosed with an autistic spectrum disorder.

I wouldn't want this forum to be separated out between aspies and autists - apart from some folk not quite fitting in either camp, I like to read all the perspectives.

I think having AS pretty much means having a degree of autism, whether it is bigger or smaller, whether you are at the edge of the spectrum or well into it.

Where the hell are you getting this s**t, shadeofme? You proceed from an assumption that in order to be autistic you have to walk around in circles and chant. You want autistics to all have the exact same mannerisms. That may work for communism, but has NO basis in neurology.

I can see why you might feel embarrassed at posting this thread.

- D