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Do you want children?
NO 66%  66%  [ 125 ]
Yes 19%  19%  [ 36 ]
I already have/had children 14%  14%  [ 27 ]
Total votes : 188

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26 Nov 2009, 10:45 pm

That woman has issues! 8O


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26 Nov 2009, 11:23 pm

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The note is up to 126 comments, this woman, Beth has been agrueing with me for like DAYS now!! !

The lady doesn't know how to give up!! ! She keeps saying I'm sick and I put a picture of my little cousin and me up and she got all mad and said I should stay 50 feet away from anybody younger than 20 years old. Also threatening to have my Facebook shut down, I'm probably just going to ignore her for now, but it's entertainment for my friends.



I think she's the one with AS. She can't respect your point of view and won't drop it until you agree. Thank god that's not me doing the arguing. It's another Beth doing it :lol:



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27 Nov 2009, 12:25 am

It does seem as if you go out of your way to make a point about such things. Unless this is your focus, I do not understand. I make many decisions I do not wish to flaunt, nor use to deride others. I looked at your facebook a bit, and you are leaning toward "rabid child-free" territory. That type of behaviour does a disservice not only to you, but to those who want others to see it's a valid life choice. It's fine not wanting children, nor really liking them. It's when you go after "breeders" or bait people into such things that it becomes sad and a quest for attention.

I know that my CF friends are annoyed by things like this. It's the type of thin that gets people riled up into judgment. I prefer that those who are so passionate about children think logically, and see that you're not out to put them down, and they may return the favor.

In short, I just do not understand shouting such a thing loudly, and in a way you know will anger people.

Be happy with your decision, and stick to your convictions, but it's best for all involved if you don't such a show of it.



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27 Nov 2009, 12:49 am

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It does seem as if you go out of your way to make a point about such things. Unless this is your focus, I do not understand. I make many decisions I do not wish to flaunt, nor use to deride others. I looked at your facebook a bit, and you are leaning toward "rabid child-free" territory. That type of behaviour does a disservice not only to you, but to those who want others to see it's a valid life choice. It's fine not wanting children, nor really liking them. It's when you go after "breeders" or bait people into such things that it becomes sad and a quest for attention.

I know that my CF friends are annoyed by things like this. It's the type of thin that gets people riled up into judgment. I prefer that those who are so passionate about children think logically, and see that you're not out to put them down, and they may return the favor.

In short, I just do not understand shouting such a thing loudly, and in a way you know will anger people.

Be happy with your decision, and stick to your convictions, but it's best for all involved if you don't such a show of it.

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StewartMango, it seems to me that you don't really want to engage in active discussion on this topic, that you simply would rather complain. If that is the case, I'd suggest that you refrain from posting to this thread. Save those complaints for a thread in the Haven.


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27 Nov 2009, 3:38 am

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And I certainly don't want to create another human being that has to go through the hell of having an ASD.
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27 Nov 2009, 4:28 am

Is "WAAAARRRGH! I don't want any children! And this b____ won't stop flaming me on Facebook!" all you post about on here?



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27 Nov 2009, 4:30 am

If you notice if happen to read the comments it seems like she's putting down people ASD, but yet she claims she's trying to help me, I thought I was crazy, but I think I met someone crazier.

It doesn't matter what I say she'll just continue, so now I guess she's entertainment, it's amazing how people get all worked up about what people post up online.

Well I'll tell you if any 'interesting' comments come up, I already had this kid from my town curse me out, because I don't like(not hate) children. Hey children aren't for EVERYONE!! ! Especially someone with sensitive hearing.


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27 Nov 2009, 4:33 am

StewartMango wrote:
If you notice if happen to read the comments it seems like she's putting down people ASD, but yet she claims she's trying to help me, I thought I was crazy, but I think I met someone crazier.

It doesn't matter what I say she'll just continue, so now I guess she's entertainment, it's amazing how people get all worked up about what people post up online.

Well I'll tell you if any 'interesting' comments come up, I already had this kid from my town curse me out, because I don't like(not hate) children. Hey children aren't for EVERYONE!! ! Especially someone with sensitive hearing.


not having/wanting children, doesnt make you a bad person, likeing, having them does not make you a good person


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27 Nov 2009, 5:00 am

i am of the opinion that if there is significant doubt in your mind about whether or not you want or, more importantly, can provide for a child for and support that child into adulthood then you should not have children. in saying that, i have known all my life that i do not want children.

a good friend and his wife have a bright and very cute ( kawaii !) 18 mth old that i have had seen grow from the age of about 1 week :)... i see how much joy she brings and i know how much she is loved, all kids should know this sort of care and be able to grow in a positive environment... children are a privilege and not a right, give all that you can give and no less.


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27 Nov 2009, 5:26 am

Where's the unsure option....I'd like to eventually get married or live with a guy, but am still unsure about the kid part.


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27 Nov 2009, 11:25 am

I don't want kids because there is too much responsibillity and i would get stressed out too easily.



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27 Nov 2009, 12:19 pm

Why did the kid curse you out? It seems as if you go out of your way to make a point in an offensive manner. (member of STOP?.. doesn't sound like just making a decision to me).

I think cause and reaction is something we struggle with at times, but you're having it pointed out to you.



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27 Nov 2009, 12:50 pm

children are cute and I love children. As long as they are other People's children.


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27 Nov 2009, 2:25 pm

I'm not necessarily in favor of keeping quiet about your opinion just because it doesn't agree with the majority.

if everyone just chilled out in the face of a strong majority opinion, women wouldn't get to vote, dark-skinned citizens of the U.S. would be segregated, women could still be fired for getting pregnant, etc. etc.

some people just aren't aware that other options exist or might even be better, so if everyone shuts up so that society remains homogeneous, it will take longer to change for the better.



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27 Nov 2009, 4:06 pm

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I'm not necessarily in favor of keeping quiet about your opinion just because it doesn't agree with the majority.

if everyone just chilled out in the face of a strong majority opinion, women wouldn't get to vote, dark-skinned citizens of the U.S. would be segregated, women could still be fired for getting pregnant, etc. etc.

some people just aren't aware that other options exist or might even be better, so if everyone shuts up so that society remains homogeneous, it will take longer to change for the better.

Being adamant about having the right to your opinion is one thing. Bashing others who don't agree with your ideas and saying things to provoke a reaction is entirely another matter.

Veiledexpressions, I believe we are effectively being ignored by the OP. It's probably not worth our time to try and engage her.


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27 Nov 2009, 4:12 pm

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bhetti wrote:
I'm not necessarily in favor of keeping quiet about your opinion just because it doesn't agree with the majority.

if everyone just chilled out in the face of a strong majority opinion, women wouldn't get to vote, dark-skinned citizens of the U.S. would be segregated, women could still be fired for getting pregnant, etc. etc.

some people just aren't aware that other options exist or might even be better, so if everyone shuts up so that society remains homogeneous, it will take longer to change for the better.

Being adamant about having the right to your opinion is one thing. Bashing others who don't agree with your ideas and saying things to provoke a reaction is entirely another matter.

Veiledexpressions, I believe we are effectively being ignored by the OP. It's probably not worth our time to try and engage her.


I agree, fiddler.

Bhetti, I certainly do not believe we should remain quiet about opinions. However, when you express it in a manner that lacks intellect, reason, and maturity, you do a disservice to your cause. In short, you create an aversion to your position. People see the offense, and cease to listen.

I am passionate about many things, one being genital integrity (no unnecessary circumcisions for minors). If I were to be rabid about such an unpopular (in the US) opinion, no one would listen to me. In fact, they may choose the opposite to spite me. If I discuss the issue in a constructive manner, I change minds.