Women who have aspergers: A non-issue for them

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23 Jul 2010, 12:56 pm

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Aspie girls get partners easier because they need it more than us males. They need it more, so they fight more. Being male i can go anywhere i want and have fun alone, i can have a fulfilling life without people, i can devote my life to science, make huge discoveries and be happier than any N.T.


I feel like you're talking about NT girls NOT aspie girls at all. I don't appreciate the generalization and complete separation which you have made between men and women who have aspergers. Yes, some women put forth a lot of effort because they need the contact. Some men do the same. It's not gender to the degree you're making it seem -- it's more personality type and introversion versus extroversion...


I didn't say that. Fernando did. You've quoted me by accident.


Apparently I can't get quotes correct .My bad, my bad!



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23 Jul 2010, 9:26 pm

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You need counselling. Odds are it's not just your Asperger's that's causing the problem, but some other issues such as poor self-esteem or extreme social anxiety. These are not inherent to the Syndrome, and can be dealt with.

I'd watch out, in your post I'm seeing similarities with the attitude that the guy who shot up that gym had. Blaming women and the world for his own problems. I'd look into dealing with the situation in a more constructive manner than blame.


KaiG, he needs porn, not therapy! What he wants is sex, not a relationship.


You're doing it again. Projecting yourself onto other aspie males! Yeah the guy is a muppet but you need to stop generalising.


Do you really think he really wants a girlfriend?! He's just another pitiful misogynist virgin.


Well, yes, consdiering he said he does. He won't get one though. Not when he hates women, so will probably have to resort to porn.



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23 Jul 2010, 9:44 pm

Posting these two unwritten social rules as a sticky thread would probably answer a lot of guys' complaints:

1) Nobody is obligated to like you or give you a chance.
2) Mutual attraction isn't something that can be explained logically. You will just get frustrated trying to figure it out.

If you have any questions about these 2 rules, consult a therapist.


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24 Jul 2010, 6:04 am

I am bisexual and I don't expect that I will have a sexual or romantic relationship with women or men. But I am not self-pitying about it.



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24 Jul 2010, 12:53 pm

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It's hilarious what some AS guys think AS girls live like.
They seem to think girls with AS should have no trouble dating, because they would date a girl with AS.
But lots of NT guys are turned off by AS traits, or mistake you for a neurotic biatch.


Or they marry you and try to change you, then get pissed at you and the world when they can't. :roll:

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24 Jul 2010, 8:19 pm

To sum Up I don't think anyone should say its easier for anyone.

I am not an aspergers guy, so really I don't know what the deal is but a lot of aspergers guys can get GFs easily so i'm thinking its a personality problem not an aspergers problem.



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25 Jul 2010, 3:05 am

Because if one autistic person can do something, then if another autistic person can't, then it's got to be personality?


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25 Jul 2010, 3:47 am

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Because if one autistic person can do something, then if another autistic person can't, then it's got to be personality?


Yes and No.

It depends on the person and the people involved. All I can say on this guy (who I can only judge by his posts here) does not have an attractive personality.



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25 Jul 2010, 4:19 am

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt132922.html


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25 Jul 2010, 7:35 am

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But if you're a pretty woman with aspergers, it just doesn't matter. In fact men might even like you MORE because of it.

I find this to be so unfair, and so cruel, to the men who have aspergers. There is an old aspie joke that says "whats the difference between an aspie male and an aspie female? answer: the aspie female is married".


That is NOT true.


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26 Jul 2010, 7:30 pm

Still waiting for the OP to post in this thread and back himself up



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26 Jul 2010, 7:43 pm

Coming from a girl with aspergers, I have never been able to hold down a romantic relationship. I've dated aspie and NT and both have not worked out. Guys think I'm cute and when they ask me out I tell them no, simply because I don't want to hurt them or have them hurt me. I'm not desperate for a relationship at all. I think aspergers varies from person to person male or female. I am one of those who can't even hold down a friendship. Do I get all doomy and gloomy about it no.



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27 Jul 2010, 2:17 am

Um, I think you're maybe taking the rejections too personally. I reject pretty much every single guy the first time, no matter how nice or attractive they are. (I'm sorry if that sounds mean but you have to realize that it's just a lot of pressure for a girl to handle, you know? And it doesn't mean I won't say yes later. I WILL say yes if we get along, and if we don't get along, do YOU want me to say yes?) A lot of girls just do not like to go out with someone they don't know. You have to slow down and get to know them first and not be so anxious to start a relationship, that can really turn people off. Right now you're coming across really bitter and desperate and THAT is really unattractive if you project that to the girls you meet IRL.

I've seen a lot of NT women come on here to talk about their AS boyfriends and husbands. A lot of women are understanding enough to want to be with AS guys. You just have to have a better attitude and not think about it too much.. just wait patiently, and hope that the right person might come along, but don't stress if she doesn't. There IS more to life, if you look for it.


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27 Jul 2010, 3:21 am

It's so hard to be a girl. Guys can't even imagine how hard it is. The opposite sex bends over backward to help you. You can be a career girl or not work and no one says a thing. You can hit a guy and he's screwed whether he hits you back or not. You can kiss girls at bars all the time and no one will care and they'll probably like the sight of it but if a guy accidentally touches another's butt, he's a homo without exception. You have charities to help you. You have many, many women only organizations and ladies nights. You have affirmative action to help you. You can get out of a test at school because it's that time of the month. You can stay at home with your parents as long as you want yet demand guys have their own place at 18 or you won't date them. You don't have to worry about being drafted. You don't very often have to worry about your kids being taken from you. Being a girl sucks. Us guys don't know how easy we have it. :roll:



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27 Jul 2010, 4:28 am

If you're representative of guys, then no, you really can't get what it's like to be female.

Many of the so-called "advantages" you describe only exist to counteract disadvantages, and they don't even do a good job. How would you like to be in so much pain every month you can't think straight and not be able to get out of a test? Frankly tests are less painful than periods can be to some women, we'd gladly take the test if we could, rather than get out of it and have a period. Women have women-only things to get away from constant male-privilege crap. And we have had to fight for all of these things to exist at all. All you are doing is proving that you can't see your own privilege. Go read The Macho Paradox and get back here and say all that again.


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27 Jul 2010, 5:03 am

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If you're representative of guys, then no, you really can't get what it's like to be female.

Many of the so-called "advantages" you describe only exist to counteract disadvantages, and they don't even do a good job. How would you like to be in so much pain every month you can't think straight and not be able to get out of a test? Frankly tests are less painful than periods can be to some women, we'd gladly take the test if we could, rather than get out of it and have a period. Women have women-only things to get away from constant male-privilege crap. And we have had to fight for all of these things to exist at all. All you are doing is proving that you can't see your own privilege. Go read The Macho Paradox and get back here and say all that again.


I'm not representative of guys and never was. Most guys kiss women's butts. I don't kiss anyone's butt male or female.


That said: How is getting more prison time for the same crime as a woman an advantage? How is paying more for car insurance because you are a young man an advantage? How is being drafted and dying for a crooked politician/businessman in a dumb war an advantage? How is bearing the brunt of rejection by the opposite sex an advantage? How is being the one who is dumped most of the time an advantage? I could go on but I've said enough there.


That said, "that time of the month" like being pregnant, physically weaker on average, etc. comes with being female. Just like the above comes with being male. I don't see how you need all the women only stuff for your advantage. Given that you claimed equality. Men only groups are few and far between because if that weren't the case, there would be lawsuits from some gold digger. Plus, if you can't see your own privileges, how do you expect me to see mine? Even if I can? I never said I don't have certain advantages because of my sex because I do, but I said that women as a whole have it easier than men do.


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