Are Autistic Men More Likely to be Misogynistic?

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I don't though but whatever. try 4k women, which is the population of women in my age group that live in the two cities I live. trying to find a way to die, or at least die inside, but its not as easy to do as everyone thinks.

wanting to be loved and cared about isn't the same as thinking you are entitled to it.

You do realize that's a figure of speech, yeah? I didn't literally mean a guy who refused to look twice in my direction. I meant a guy whose standards did not intersect with my own. For example, I'd never be able to date a guy who was convinced he deserved to date models. Because I'm not a model. I honestly don't understand the need to jump to extremes. I didn't say you should stop trying. I said you should change your angle. You can't possibly have asked out every single eligible female around you, so you can't make blanket statements about the single women in your area in a dismissive fashion that leads you to dramatically conclude you'll become the embodiment of a foreveralone troll face.

I really do hope that someday you get lucky and meet a sweet girl whose standards intersect with yours.

i understood it to mean not giving a chance.

no but I have looked at all their profiles. with maybe like 200 ish I haven't. stopped counting after so many. I have also looked at many more who are from cities around mine. only ones who have liked me are from other nations. like canada, or philipines and then they don't respond to me either. nothing entirely to do with what you've said. I've been coming to this conclusion over the past year. I wish I had the technology to compile all their profiles data to show you in a graph though that actually sounds kinda creepy to do.

closest i ever got was a lady from way up north and she turned out to be a compulsive liar( her own words)

Yes, this double standard is everywhere, joking about men seem acceptable.

I have provided sources proving that men are being objectified too, if there was no demand for it (from women mostly), the ones in charge won't continue doing it, it's a demand and supply matter.

And this whole off-topic has nothing to do with misogyny, I am purely talking about sexual objectification on both sides.

I didn't deny this either, except I think it's getting exaggerated.

How typical, you accuse the undesirable guy of being having crazy standards, like wanting a model, sly279 has never said he wants a model.

I see a lot of this false reasoning here "if you can't find a gf = you have crazy model-like standards".

Why is it, that the idea that women in general find certain looks undesirable as a whole is unacceptable? Especially when it comes to online dating where looks is the first thing we notice about a person and where women have a very wide selection?

People like you and Amity, are so buying into the popular myth that "women are way less visual and superficial than men" - a myth which was shaped by patriarchal history and religions to begin with that systemically suppressed female sexuality, especially the visual side of female sexuality, to be expressed in the open - reinforcing the myth that women are non-visual beings and don't get aroused by certain visual cues nor having preferences to certain visual traits.... but only for her dear spiritual husband no matter how of an ugly fart he is (who was in the past, in most cases, her "buyer" through arranged marriage).



The 10 profiles experiment (which was conducted by a lady btw) shows how looks is important for both genders.



Sly might have no data compiled, but him as being overweight guy, his experience on online dating is pretty consistent with the compiled data above, notice how both the overweight girl and guy got the least messages, 11 and 0 (pic 1 and 6) after 4 months, the overweight guy have it even worse - but both are the last ranked in each gender.


Sigh- Let's face it people, let's face it, there are certain looks of women that the majority of guys don't find attractive (ie. obese women, very unsymmetrical face...etc), and there are certain looks of men that the majority of women don't find attractive either(ie. obese men, very short men...etc) - and sadly sly is probably is one of these unfortunate men hence why he almost never gets replies.

Sly's best chances is to work on his diet, or to rely less on online dating and try to build a bond with some girl he knows, I say he has better chance with overweight girls if he's still overweight himself (he's tall and that's an advantage especially when it comes to face to face meetings, a problem that I struggle with because I get a lot of replies on dating sites ...thanks to my toned physique basically*, most don't read I am 5'3 on profile and that led them to being disappointed and unpleasantly surprised when they find out if they turn out to be taller than me).

*My personal experience proves that women are as visual as men, I am someone who went from zero replies from women over years to a full inbox - the only changing factor was my new physique (and pic), nothing in profile or messaging content changed. That's why I grin and hysterically laugh at heart when I hear someone claiming that women aren't visual, it is a very false belief.

Uh, I don't think it's the fashion industry that has the largest effect on most men's self-esteem regarding body image.




I don't though but whatever. try 4k women, [/quote]

Let's ask ourselves which is more likely: that 4,000 out of 4,000 women are douchbags, or that you are the one being the douchebag.

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Okay, hottest names in mensware:
Giorgio Armani – not gay, married to a woman
Ralph Lauren – not gay, married to a woman
Hugo Boss – not gay, married to a woman
Burberry (Thomas) – not gay, married twice to two different women
Gucci (Guccio) – not gay, married to a woman

I could go on, but I don't really care enough. I'm honestly not seeing what you're saying. Especially in the magical world of men's fashion. I've worked for a men's magazine. There are more straight men in fashion than you think. Wait, why are we talking about men's fashion?



There is this thing. It's called an example. I wasn't talking about Sly when I used that as an example, it was literally just the first thing that came to mind because it's so overused. Would you like another one? How about the crazy religious guy who wants a girl that's his religion or who will convert. That's not happening. I wouldn't date him, he wouldn't date me. Is that better? Would you like more examples? Like that guy who only chases after Asian girls, because he's obsessed with their culture. Ohlook, I'm not Asian, another guy I'm not dating. Do you understand the point yet? I could make you a nifty venn diagram about intersecting standards and how those don't work for me.

Nope. Point out exactly where I accuse him of having crazy standards. Because you're reading my posts wrong if you're finding it. I didn't accuse anyone of having crazy standards, not even the guy who does only date models. I've met plenty of guys like that...probably because I used to work surrounded by models. There's actually nothing wrong with them having that standard. People have standards. It is their right to have standards. I merely suggested that he would have luck when he found people whose standards intersected his own. Standards don't have to be physical. They can be mental, emotional, or moral. When standards mesh correctly, it's more likely that a relationship can form. If women are rejecting a man because their standard is dating someone who is a certain body weight, the logical thing to do would be to move on to women who don't have that standard. They have to exist.

Where did I say that women are less superficial about looks? Women are horribly superficial. There wouldn't be an entire industry revolving around our appearance if we weren't. I think you are reading things in my posts that simply aren't there, Boo. But, I have to admit, it's always entertaining to see what you'll come up with.

It isn't just Autistic men, go on the relationship help section of bodybuilding.com and you will find many misogynistic men, go on a gaming forum like IGN and you will find the same.

The internet is generally a toxic place. If you want to meet non toxic people, get out of the house.

That doesn't prove anything. When there is largely only visual information to work with, like whatever you're referring to, obviously a change in visuals may lead to a change in response. Does the fact that in my psychology class all of the men listed looks as being important (most the men framed it as wanting their mate to "care about their appearence", but I'm not going to lie, I don't give a damn whether someone cares about their looks or not, I only care if you're not ugly or not because I'd prefer for the people in my life, male or female, to be people I can stand looking at because I'm superficial like that ) while none of the girls did?

A psychology class is public and non-anonymous, girls are so conditioned into believing that they don't care about looks, and hence conditioned to way less likely admit it in front of others, they always like appear that they don't care about looks and totally non-shallow.
Public involuntary reactions to sexy male celebs, and what they look at behind the doors are more reflective of the truth.

Not the fashion industry, media as a whole, including advertising, movies and celebrities-related stuff.

There are plenty of famous straight men in fashion industry.

But do more research, homosexual men, despite them being fewer in population, dominate much of the fashion industry, at least when it comes to designing - I was talking about the women's fashion industry btw.





When you quoted sly and threw this "example" in this way out of blue, you sounded like you were implying or hinting what sly's problem might be (him having high standards), while the problem is more likely to be simply that he isn't attractive in the eyes of the majority of women, sly expressed before that he isn't after models so I can't see why you even threw this example in this context.

We've been over this topic many times here, and my response remains the same; if you want to claim that WP is a cesspool of misogyny or that AS men have a greater tendency towards same, you need to show some examples of what you're talking about, as that word has experienced a bit of "drift" lately. Some may recall that the last time I asked for examples, I got a huge list of threads about misogyny, but no real examples of it, which if the site is as awash in it as is frequently claimed, should be easily provided.

WP is not a cesspool of misogyny. Sly is not really overweight. Too much statistics....not enough "real life."

Both sexes objectify each other, and the opposite sex.

Frustrated single guys, Spectrumite or no, frequently make sweeping generalizations. They should be corrected. Most, probably, do not hate women. They need to experience different sorts of women. And see them as individuals, rather than as a stereotype. It's pretty much a defense mechanism.

I find true misogyny to be rare.