Disdain for alcohol and drugs = sign of Austism

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alcohol hasen't been a bad thing for me, let me explain why:

-normally i'm very shy ==> drinking actually helps me "connect" to people
-shamefullness of my personality and communicational abilities, i usually have, seem to dissapear


i also was a bit opposed to drinking although it could be considered a placebo effect it has really brought me friends the funny thing is when people go through an strange, weird or even adventurous episode they seem to connect on a strange lvl

although drinking helps, i must also add==> drinking is just a short-time solution/ it should be drunk with care and never exceed a threshhold where you might feel sick

and never ever drink if you don't want to!! ! at the end of the day it's your body!!

furthermore yes some people become aggresive it is advised not to resort to drinking alcohol if you are one of them

play a game to try and start drinking==> my friends play ring of fire/ circle of death with me it takes the pressure away when you drink

I highly doubt most drug users are the brightest people and there's a huge difference between calculated smart risk, and idiotic recklessness such as taking meth or "expanding your mind" with LSD.

I agree with Aniihya, I think it would be rather fascinating to see a study showing the correlations between all of those things.

I'd agree that most of your typical street addicts aren't likely all that bright. But drug users in general? C'mon... give me a break. You think university students stop trying/using drugs the moment they graduate? No. Business people, doctors, lawyers, engineers, professors, etc etc etc - maaaaaaany of them use drugs. The difference is that most of them use (or utilize, I should say) them responsibly in a more controlled manner than some back alley tweaker.

I'm a relatively intelligent guy. I took Dextroamphetamine (legally prescribed, therapeutic dose, meth.. essentially.) for 3 years. It was a calculated smart risk. I've never taken LSD, but I have extracted & consumed LSA (LSD's naturally occurring precursor acid) from Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds. It was a calculated smart risk. Same goes for a few other substances over the years & more to come in the future.

I drank a beer and had a couple tokes after work this evening, too. Yet somehow I've still managed to have Many people tell me I'm "so smart" or that I'm "the smartest guy they know." etc. Seriously. I don't know or care what my IQ is, but I am a relatively intelligent guy. And I've used drugs & alcohol annnd even smoked a bit of tobacco - natural tobacco, not chemical laced cancer sticks.

Well Colorado is taking immigrants from the surrounding states and even places as far as California its hard to not find pot here, one would really have to make an effort to be unable to find any pot here....makes it hard to find reasonably priced apartments/duplexes/houses/things people live in for us locals cause all the out of state-ers are taking them lol.

Or people just know what the word psychedelic means and are aware LSD is a psychedelic drug, not to mention for thousands of years psychdelic drugs have been used for the specific purpose of 'expanding the mind' in various cultures all over the world......so not sure how it would be idiotic recklessness to take LSD to expand the mind, it would be more reckless to take it 'just to have fun'(like as a party drug) when more precaution is needed for something like that, well if you want to have a good trip as opposed to a bad one that is.

I'd however never try meth...I have had plenty of opportunities, but that is one I do just say no to, that and heroin for sure are drugs I want nothing to do with.

I like the taste of many alcoholic drinks.

Disdain is more hazardous to one's health than anything discussed heretofore, barring hard drugs which nearly everyone knows to be pointless and toxic. The more you decry anything, the more vain negativity you allow into your mind. Nobody really needs instinctual derision, they simply practice it because they never knew any better to begin with.

People often tell me I am intelligent, smart, know a lot about (insert topic I might be discussing), knowledgeable ect. since I was a child...that didn't stop since I've tried various substances. Of course I am not flawless and have done plenty of stupid things in life but most people who know me don't think I am some idiot...People who don't know me, IDK what they think it probably varies depending on what I am wearing.

Last time I dropped out of college it wasn't because 'I'm too stupid to pass' I had A's and B's...was procrasinating math, but with the thing that caused my PTSD being on a school campus even a few times a week(part time schedule) was causing me way too much stress. Like it literally got to the point I just could not do it anymore because it was literally bad for my health and I had even less coping skills than than I do now so some of those where also detrimental to my health as well, that is why I dropped out. And I still get 'but you're so smart' ...from the same people I've already explained that to(maybe if all those people(that don't already know) knew I have tried more than alcohol and pot they would quit thinking I am smart but I doubt it).

I do still smoke cigarettes but only additive free natural tobacco usually American Spirits as they are the most widely available, though sometimes I've gotten pouches of good tobacco still additive free/natural to roll my own, I can hand roll a half way decent cigarette yet I cannot make a smokable joint(luckily I prefer smoking from a pipe) and yes if I do not have one I may get creative with an apple or a carrot or something before I'd try and roll a joint. I sometimes might smoke a black and mild wood tip cigar which I am not sure are additive free but I like them on occasion.

I disagree.

I tend to have disdain for... basically everything, but I'm typically the most healthy and resistant one among everyone I know. Disdain to varying degrees though; while I have absolute and complete blazing hatred for something like alcohol, I tend to view most things with what could be summed up as "bah. Go away." Rarely do I actually give an opinion on something (or even mention it) IRL unless directly asked, and even then I'll sometimes just say "I have no thoughts on it right now" if I'd rather not end up ranting about something. Overall my nature is kinda negative/dark, which frankly I'm fine with. I'd rather not try to be something that I simply am not.

And one could argue "well you could at least try to be more positive", but no, that wouldnt work. I'd end up just PRETENDING to be positive... and I refuse. Because I haaaaaaaaaate when people do that, and give me opinions on things that arent ACTUALLY their real opinions, just to seem nice.

Overall, I think it's not about keeping away from disdain... but moreso about keeping away from genuine anger when dealing with others. Can cause all sorts of bad things, that. Is why I usually just wander off or walk away when things are getting annoying.

I've forgotten where I was going with this.

LSD is one of least toxic substances known to man, it is easier to overdose on vitamin C. If used in a safe environment, how exactly would that be reckless?

Your mind might do unexpected things...like make you see more colors than usual, I guess.

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I do not understand the lack of curiosity, much in the way i don't understand people who are interested in...plants or any other number of things I don't find interesting. Doesn't mean that you don't have it or that it's totally overridden by other things.

Sure, alcohol alters someone, that is rather the point :-p
I wonder what you're defining as 'stupid' though? Is it only stupid because they wouldn't act that way when they're not drunk? Is it stupid because if you were to do that thing you would find it embarrassing, or you are embarrassed for them? Because that if that's the case, that is entirely you putting onto them an idea of what someone should or should not be doing.
Also, you've probably heard this before, but being drunk unless you're really badly drunk such that it affects your memory, doesn't really make you unaware of your actions. Like, the person can act in a silly way, and you can not like that. Cool. But for you to say that the alcohol has made them act stupidly, you are really just judging what is stupid or not.

I'm just reminded of a time I was hanging out with some people and we saw a couple of drunk girls lying in the grass laughing, waiting for the bus, and the one of them said 'And THAT'S why I will never drink'. (I suppose the assumption is that the people I was with didn't really drink because they were people from a christian group at school that met up and no one ever drank at any of the meet ups). It didn't make any SENSE to me except she was like 'Look at how STUPID they're being and they don't know it.' But they do know it. The only reason something like lying in the grass and laughing is stupid is because someone else has determined that lying in the grass and laughing is not proper etiquette, and that they should be embarrassed. Well, you can be embarrassed and hate them all you like for acting like goofballs, but chances are they don't give 2 s**ts what you think about them, and in such an innocent case, they're right. You're an ass for thinking poorly of someone who's not acting properly when their actions aren't harmful to you in any way.

But please don't get me wrong, a lot drunk people make stupid choices that are harmful to themselves or others, but I have always said that it's not actually something new, and it's not because they're totally out of control or aren't self-aware, they're just acting out on things that are already in their heads to do. They act impulsively. And contrary to what you think you know about alcohol, self-awareness has nothing to do with acting impulsively. And not all impulses are going to be bad, although a lot of them end up being things that often people would not otherwise do due to embarrassment. But embarrassment is their own concern, not yours.



If I used your definition of 'real' for emotions as 'lasting a long time' as you just did there, my entire psyche would not be real. So no, it is not an illusion. It's not going to fix your social or worldly problems, and drinking might exacerbate them, but that's not the same thing at all.

This!

Cavernio, I'd be careful about getting too abrasive. Misery said he/she will "make your life miserable for awhile" and you won't be able to do anything to stop it. I don't want to find out how, and neither do you. You might find threatening text messages on your cell phone from a blocked number, or something like that. So cool it, for your own safety.

As for the "girls in the grass" example, I agree that it's silly to look down your nose at them. Chances are, they know they're acting stupid, only they see it as silliness to bond over, rather than personal stupidity. Besides, they're waiting for a bus, which means they're NOT driving drunk, and by extension, not harming themselves or others. I myself acted very similarly with a group of new friends on a Carnival cruise. We were doing things like staggering through the port city streets while holding on to each other to keep from falling, cheering for our ship (causing other passengers on the street nearby to cheer back), heckling a competing cruise line's ship, and singing songs off-key. One girl in our group briefly pole-danced on a lamppost, causing one driver to honk as he drove past.

Did we all look intelligent doing that? Probably not! Did we get violent with the locals? Never! (We were in more danger of the reverse, due to the "rich tourist" stereotype.) Did we damage property? No! Did we bond over it and laugh about it next morning? Hell, yeah! Random people on the ship were saying hi to us all day next day, saying they saw us from the top deck and we looked like we were really having fun.

Those girls in the grass are no different. Just friends being silly while causing no trouble to outside people. It's heads and shoulders better than sitting around judging how passersby are dressed, or shouting loudly to frighten an aspie man walking with his nose buried in his smartphone.

And a straghtedge lifestyle is nothing to brag about; it doesn't make you a better person. The most cruel, despicable bullies I had, who went as far as threatening to murder me, were hardline straightedgers. While relatively non-aggressive bullies that were merely a nuisance (and even downright civil at times) all smoked like a chimney and drank like a fish.

As someone who works at a bar & has worked at bars for 5+ years, there are very few people who actually act inappropriately when drunk. Sure, there are people that get silly, or stupid, or loud, or obnoxious etc.. but the only ones that shouldn't really drink, IMO, are the ones that get aggressive or violent when they drink. Others just need to learn their limits to keep themselves from embarrassing themselves. As for the violent drunks, I have huge respect for the people who choose not to drink because they know it makes them lose control of themselves. One of the funniest ones I ever met was some tough guy who declined an offer of a drink and said "oh, no thanks.. I'm allergic - every time I drink I break out in handcuffs!" I'd have bought him a drink just for the laugh, but, well, you know..

On a totally different note: If people think alcohol is for the "dumb" or "lower class" I just wanted to point out that I've served drinks to (and drank with) some of the most intelligent people I know, as well as the wealthiest - not your every day millionaires, we're talking your 0.1-0.01%ers.