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who here is lousy at dealing with anger?
MEE!! ! :oops: 67%  67%  [ 40 ]
Not ME. :bounce: 7%  7%  [ 4 ]
I dunno. :shrug: 13%  13%  [ 8 ]
I wanna nice yummy sherbet :chef: 13%  13%  [ 8 ]
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26 May 2016, 4:52 pm

I see dead things and picture their unencumbered spirits scampering about happily, in heaven.



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27 May 2016, 3:30 am

i see that too.

what i think about more though, the actual process of getting to heaven. how do you release? how are you guided? are the gates of wrought iron?


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27 May 2016, 3:36 am

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i see that too. what i think about more though, the actual process of getting to heaven. how do you release? how are you guided? are the gates of wrought iron?

it's as easy as falling off a log. in fact, sometimes that is just what it takes. ;) seriously, chances are that you've been back and forth from there, countless times. your spirit knows the way well enough. when it is time, your body will give up the ghost, for good, and the silver cord will dissolve. the "gates" are dimensional.



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27 May 2016, 4:04 am

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you would hate me. i sometimes wander into the frozen seafood section simply to stare at their selection, in particular, to look at the fish right in their cold dead eyes, sometimes hoping to catch a faint movement. ........

if you acknowledged that i was intending to select a piece of fish to buy, and then stood aside for the 10 seconds it took for me to retrieve it from the fridge and exit from the situation, i would not be impelled to interact with you.

i did not hate the woman. i just wanted her to step aside so i could get what i had already decided i would get (i had already seen what i wanted to take from the fridge), and then she would have been free to speculate for ever (or at least until i came back some other day). i could have just walked in front of her gaze and got what i wanted, but i did feel the social obligation to not occlude her view, and in my mind there was no way around it, so i got impatient and just told her to get out of my way, which was the easiest way to avoid breaking her line of sight by just moving in front of her.

as far as aunt blabby's comment is concerned...actually i will post a separate post about that.



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27 May 2016, 4:13 am

auntblabby wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:
i see that too. what i think about more though, the actual process of getting to heaven. how do you release? how are you guided? are the gates of wrought iron?

it's as easy as falling off a log. in fact, sometimes that is just what it takes. ;) seriously, chances are that you've been back and forth from there, countless times. your spirit knows the way well enough. when it is time, your body will give up the ghost, for good, and the silver cord will dissolve. the "gates" are dimensional.


once when i had an LSD trip, i was lying in bed trying to get away from it (it was seriously difficult to bear), and all of a sudden i felt like i was lying behind myself and looking at the back of my head. i felt that because i was now not in my body, that there was a chord that connected me to it, and i started to freak out and realize that if i stayed out for too long, my body would die.
then some consciousness force seemed to rip me away across the backyards of the neighboring houses and aloft into the air toward a pub where i was dragged to a blood spatter blotch on the wall of the pub, and i thought "this consciousness that has ripped me away from my bed is a dead person who is trying to show me how he died in some attempt at getting some understanding about how unfair it was" , but i felt that the chord that attached me to my body was now stretched too thin, and i refused to cooperate and i snapped back into my head and then got up and continued to freak out albeit safe from the death that comes from the severing of the silver chord.

too heavy for me to think about that again until i am very old and ready to die anyway.



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27 May 2016, 4:25 am

^^^that sort of astral projection happened to my older brother also, when he was a soldier in Vietnam.



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27 May 2016, 4:48 am

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^^^that sort of astral projection happened to my older brother also, when he was a soldier in Vietnam.

one thing i read in a hindu themed book by "richard alpert" (called "be here now") really made sense to me.
it said that "if one tries to rip the skin off a snake before it is ready to molt it , then the snake will die".

i think that my progress in the destiny of my existence at the moment means that i am not ready to be hauled into experiences which would send me insane because i am not ready to think about it.

if the "snake " is my eternal existence, then i must stay in my area of development and not "eat from the tree of knowledge" until the fruit of it drops before me naturally.

it is an induction to insanity to have LSD because it makes one see things that one is not yet developed enough to handle.



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27 May 2016, 5:58 am

while i'm probably not ready to eat wholesale from the tree of [heretofore hidden] knowledge, i'd still at least think about how nice it might be to be able to at least try to nibble on a bit of it now and then. if I could cherry-pick off the knowledge/experience tree of LSD, it would be the synesthetic aspect of it. I would really like to experience hearing vision and seeing sound. and also seeing and hearing scents as well.



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27 May 2016, 6:35 am

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while i'm probably not ready to eat wholesale from the tree of [heretofore hidden] knowledge, i'd still at least think about how nice it might be to be able to at least try to nibble on a bit of it now and then. if I could cherry-pick off the knowledge/experience tree of LSD, it would be the synesthetic aspect of it. I would really like to experience hearing vision and seeing sound. and also seeing and hearing scents as well.

yeah just keep away from it i say. LSD takes you forcibly to where you are uncertain that you have a right to be. then come crashing in religious types of guilt (guilt is something i never experienced before LSD or after it wore off). "i have gatecrashed into a level of consciousness that i am surely not naturally evolved enough to have earned" is the thought i think then, and then i have crashing doubts about how to steer myself through all those thoughts back to my basic natural reality.

synesthesia may well be achieved by more moderate drugs like psylocybin or mescaline, but i have not tried them.
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27 May 2016, 7:22 am

b9 wrote:
once when i had an LSD trip, i was lying in bed trying to get away from it (it was seriously difficult to bear), and all of a sudden i felt like i was lying behind myself and looking at the back of my head. i felt that because i was now not in my body, that there was a chord that connected me to it, and i started to freak out and realize that if i stayed out for too long, my body would die.

I've had this out-of-body experiences several times but not LSD-induced but due to hypnagogia or hypnopompia with the former being a state in which one experiences the transitional state from wakefulness to sleep and the latter vice versa.
So I saw myself lying in my bed and one time I was wandering around the room while I was lying in my bed.
I also have sleep-paralysis and hypnagogic hallucinations which is no fun and they can freak me out.
But I gain more and more the consciousness in these states that I am in that transitional state and what I see and hear and feel cannot hurt me.


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27 May 2016, 7:25 am

Eloa wrote:
b9 wrote:
once when i had an LSD trip, i was lying in bed trying to get away from it (it was seriously difficult to bear), and all of a sudden i felt like i was lying behind myself and looking at the back of my head. i felt that because i was now not in my body, that there was a chord that connected me to it, and i started to freak out and realize that if i stayed out for too long, my body would die.

I've had this out-of-body experiences several times but not LSD-induced but due to hypnagogia or hypnopompia with the former being a state in which one experiences the transitional state from wakefulness to sleep and the latter vice versa.
So I saw myself lying in my bed and one time I was wandering around the room while I was lying in my bed.
I also have sleep-paralysis and hypnagogic hallucinations which is no fun and they can freak me out.
But I gain more and more the consciousness in these states that I am in that transitional state and what I see and hear and feel cannot hurt me.

i have registered what you said. i am sorry i can not reply to it because i have nothing to say about it that can further the discussion, but thanks for replying to me anyway.



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27 May 2016, 7:39 am

b9 wrote:
Eloa wrote:
b9 wrote:
once when i had an LSD trip, i was lying in bed trying to get away from it (it was seriously difficult to bear), and all of a sudden i felt like i was lying behind myself and looking at the back of my head. i felt that because i was now not in my body, that there was a chord that connected me to it, and i started to freak out and realize that if i stayed out for too long, my body would die.

I've had this out-of-body experiences several times but not LSD-induced but due to hypnagogia or hypnopompia with the former being a state in which one experiences the transitional state from wakefulness to sleep and the latter vice versa.
So I saw myself lying in my bed and one time I was wandering around the room while I was lying in my bed.
I also have sleep-paralysis and hypnagogic hallucinations which is no fun and they can freak me out.
But I gain more and more the consciousness in these states that I am in that transitional state and what I see and hear and feel cannot hurt me.

i have registered what you said. i am sorry i can not reply to it because i have nothing to say about it that can further the discussion, but thanks for replying to me anyway.

That's fine to me.


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27 May 2016, 7:46 am

Eloa wrote:
b9 wrote:
Eloa wrote:
b9 wrote:
once when i had an LSD trip, i was lying in bed trying to get away from it (it was seriously difficult to bear), and all of a sudden i felt like i was lying behind myself and looking at the back of my head. i felt that because i was now not in my body, that there was a chord that connected me to it, and i started to freak out and realize that if i stayed out for too long, my body would die.

I've had this out-of-body experiences several times but not LSD-induced but due to hypnagogia or hypnopompia with the former being a state in which one experiences the transitional state from wakefulness to sleep and the latter vice versa.
So I saw myself lying in my bed and one time I was wandering around the room while I was lying in my bed.
I also have sleep-paralysis and hypnagogic hallucinations which is no fun and they can freak me out.
But I gain more and more the consciousness in these states that I am in that transitional state and what I see and hear and feel cannot hurt me.

i have registered what you said. i am sorry i can not reply to it because i have nothing to say about it that can further the discussion, but thanks for replying to me anyway.

That's fine to me.

is it?



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27 May 2016, 8:49 am

b9 wrote:
Eloa wrote:
b9 wrote:
Eloa wrote:
b9 wrote:
once when i had an LSD trip, i was lying in bed trying to get away from it (it was seriously difficult to bear), and all of a sudden i felt like i was lying behind myself and looking at the back of my head. i felt that because i was now not in my body, that there was a chord that connected me to it, and i started to freak out and realize that if i stayed out for too long, my body would die.

I've had this out-of-body experiences several times but not LSD-induced but due to hypnagogia or hypnopompia with the former being a state in which one experiences the transitional state from wakefulness to sleep and the latter vice versa.
So I saw myself lying in my bed and one time I was wandering around the room while I was lying in my bed.
I also have sleep-paralysis and hypnagogic hallucinations which is no fun and they can freak me out.
But I gain more and more the consciousness in these states that I am in that transitional state and what I see and hear and feel cannot hurt me.

i have registered what you said. i am sorry i can not reply to it because i have nothing to say about it that can further the discussion, but thanks for replying to me anyway.

That's fine to me.

is it?

Yes, because when you cannot reply because you have nothing to say about it that can further the discussion than it is what it is and I am fine with that.


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