Are all Autists unemployed?

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a. I believe in being the best I can be as well. And therein lies the problem. Your definition of best is different then mine.

b. You're adapting to your employers as needed kept you employed for the last 45 years. This is true for you but others did the exact same thing. They performed well. Had an excellent attitude. Spoke the right words and had the right tone! In the end, these others were still s**t canned not because of what they did but because employers needed to trim the fat or go in a different direction. You're making it seem as though all one has to do is do the right thing as employers define and all will be ok. That's not true at all! You can still be s**t canned for any reason or no reason at all. And, that's what employers do. So, adapting guarantees us nothing.

c. And, adapting as you call it let me ask you this. When does enough become enough? Until a person has a mental breakdown? Physically sick? This is a one sided relationship with no boundaries at all.

Sometimes ya got to take a stand, quit licking the fudge, and say no.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/frightened-d ... 55544.html

d. What happens when adapting to the system is no longer an option for you? What happens when you can't comply? And, what happens when more and more people are put into positions in which they cannot comply?

One possible answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storming_of_the_Bastille

All of this is true, and has happened to me. Sometimes you can't adapt, no matter how hard you try. And I actually did have a mental breakdown because of one of my previous jobs. I had severe panic attacks to the point where I thought I would stop breathing. I actually wanted to die at times. I was so relieved when they finally "laid me off". Adapting works, to a point. But everyone is different. We all have different stress tolerances. We also have different strengths, weaknesses, and ability levels. What works for one may not work for another. I currently work in retail, and one day it may happen that someone pushes me too far and I verbally let them have it both barrels. I can deal with rudeness to a point by ignoring it, and luckily most of our customers are very nice. It's like Bob Marley says: "Every day the bucket goes to the well, But one day the bottom will drop out." I might lose the job one day because someone pushes me too far.

Well, if you cannot handle employment, then just stay home.  There is no sense in making it difficult for your co-workers to get their work done because you took a job that someone else could handle a whole lot better.

I mean, employees are paid to work, not to hide under their desks or spend their days demanding that everyone and everything changes just for them.

Sure, "reasonable accommodations" must be made for the handicapped, but since when is "Absolutely: No talking, No eye-contact, No questions, No music, No bright lights, No perfumes, No temperature above or below 72°F, and No exceptions" being reasonable?  You may as well stay home and let the other people work.

 

Sorry, that's just not fair. You just have to keep trying until you find a job that works for you. Agreed, some people take it too far like you said and make demands that are just not reasonable. But I truly believe that almost everyone can do some sort of job. It's just that some employers will say things are "unreasonable" and they can't make accommodations that they really can make if they cared enough to do it. What are people supposed to do who have trouble keeping jobs? Starve? Live on the streets? Drive themselves to suicide or physical illness trying to adapt to a job that they should not be doing? Be a burden to their families and society forever? I think people should do all they can to find the right job, but "just deal with whatever job you manage to get" is not the answer. The consequences for that person and others can be disastrous. Ever heard of "going postal"?

That implies that the person can handle employment, but only if a very narrow and specific set of subjectively ideal conditions are met.Ever hear of repressed psychopathy?

I am too good at adapting. Just before Connecticut went on mandatory business closings my boss gave me an overdue assignment with a deadline of Tuesday. Over the weekend I asked whether that was still a firm deadline, as I now had to do stuff in order to work from home. Well, he wanted it back but it involved hardware that was now at my home. With minimal assistance from IT as they were too busy helping everyone else.

Anyway, it was hard but I was on remotely from home Monday morning and got the assignment due Tuesday.
Seems like it took him and another guy in the office the whole week to sort things out. Maybe more.
And I still haven't gotten my performance appraisal that was promised last week.

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when was working, you work within the guidelines laid out for you to work under , Asking people to do things that are not within the job description, you were taking work away from someone else, whose job description those tasks were already defined .
And there was no unions , in the field , was working in.
Being in the IT ( internet Technology ) at that time in the early days . Programmers did the programming Period . And in specific comp language only , as descrbed , Operators did their job description . Both turned out to having their own benefits . And environment was closely controlled.
But this was a city job , competition was minimal . Perfomance was expected to be exceptional .
City jobs were stable. Advancement was very slow. Interveiws were quite meticulous. actually you were in front of a panel of professionals in your field . No frills expected , but definitely work output in your feild was expected . Everything was good except . You did not have control over the durn
Flourescents , but that was before the effects of them were known . But the work had to be done.

1. I'm trying employment again. Wish me luck.

2.

I like this. I'm going to use it.

3. Eye contact is not part of the essential duties of some jobs so no eye contact would be a reasonable accomodation in some cases.

4. Don't complain if you have to pay for someone's living through your tax dollars. <<<Mainly to conservative types.

Is it just me, or does it seem that people who declare "It's not fair" are the same people who demand that the rules be changed specifically to accommodate only them?  Does it also seem that once those rules are changed, everyone else's lives are made more difficult?

Granted, some people cannot adapt to the rules by which everyone else lives. For those people, there are reasonable accommodations to be made. But when accommodations infringe upon their co-workers' abilities to do their jobs -- making life "fair" for one person while making it "unfair" for everyone else -- that's what I call "unreasonable" accommodations.

That's true, as I said. And I'm glad you are able to handle your job. And many people do take it too far. But you shouldn't judge others. Some employers would rather find a reason to get rid of someone than do simple things that could help. Agreed, if it interferes with other's rights/ability to do their jobs, it's probably not reasonable. But as we are finding with the current crisis, many jobs can be done from home. People are working from home now who didn't before. If eye contact and sensory issues are a problem, and you can avoid them by working from home, the employer should let the person do it. I had employers tell me I couldn't work from home when there was no reason why this should have been a problem.

Good luck Cubedemon!! I hope you find your calling!!

AspiePrincess, I am totally with you. It's not fair at all and it goes to what Cubedemon asked at question (d), the answer to which I think is outright revolution. That's the one thing the rich look to avoid at all costs. It's ironic, but I've always liked the Don too. Can't say the same for the office of President of the United States, at least not since JFK.

In fact, I'm with you on just about everything you said. I hope you soon find a job that you will love and where you will truly thrive. That's my prayer for you.

To paraphrase an old song, "If you can't be in the job you love, love the job you're in."

Thank you

BESTof LUCK ...!