Is autism becoming infantalised?

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I would rather assume I don't know until I know someone really well.
It's particularily important among autistic people who often have spiky profiles of abilities.

She probably has, but so has my sister who has never been able to get a job in her field in 10 years along with her husband with most other graduates I know including myself and most of the class I was with in my time in university.

I work as a labourer now for a metal fab workshop and don't really care to much anymore about my time in uni. I thought the job would never suit me and I don't really love it with any degree of passion but it;s not as horrible as I assumed it would be.

I’m sure KT has sought out jobs “not in her field,” too.

You’re at an impasse. Move on to something else.

I'm aware she has, she said in a previous post.

There’s a point where you have to move on to something else.

Many times, I have to move on to something else, too.

She’s not benefiting from what you’re saying at this point.

To be honest Iv'e increasingly lost interest with what she's been saying anyway. Her very first post on this thread seemed to be more of an issue with the "the capitalist system you love so much." and was strangely political for some reason with her for a many, many more posts. I think her issue is more of the capitalist status quo than the actual topic. Autistic people struggling in the world must be due to capitalism in her eyes and anyone who doesn't agree is a capitalist.

I've had the opposite experience where my school looked at my diagnoses and tried to limit me.

I have seen critical comments on the TV show Parenthood about Max and members here felt he was infantilized and just spoiled and just has tantrums than meltdowns. These comments came from members who grew up undiagnosed and/or who grew up in times where ASD wasn't a spectrum so they got tough love and were not infantilized and would get in trouble for any disrespect and rude behavior. I figure this was a thing Temple Grandin was talking about when she talks about autistic kids being coddled these days.

But unfortunately it's very tough to make threads like this without offending anyone and making anyone feel attacked and think this thread is about them.

Non-verbal then verbal

When I was in school I wasn't diagnosed with autism but instead dyslexia (which I also have anyway) and the "help" they gave me.......damn. Blue paper, a laptop, a voice recorder worth stupid money, translation software on my laptop that even translated image text into words and an microphone to type for me. It was just far to much and I honestly felt embarrassed to walk into classrooms looking like the showroom for PC world KNOWING that everyone knew I was dyslexic as a result. I quickly realised even before being the proud owner of all that junk that it would make sweet naff all difference with my dyslexia anyway and just make me look "special".

Years later I still don't care about my dyslexia and can read pretty much everything I need too. I realised that all it done was make me look like an idiot and as I was just 14 at the time it battered my confidence a bit.

N.S. is not a reliable author/scorer. I wouldn't accept any of his scores for admission into societies, due to his unstable mental state. Something more reputable would be good for you, I think.

When it comes to IQ tests, any problems like dyslexia will be greatly amplified if trying to test oneself. IQ tests are also deceptively complex and are not able to be done online, they are quite literally hands on (playing with coloured blocks) and require a psychiatrist or psychologist to walk you through them and can actually be quite stressful. They're deliberately designed to fluster you and push you beyond what you can do. All the IQ tests Iv'e completed have been done by doctors. I would certainly recommend anyone who wants or needs an IQ test to ask a psychiatrist/physiologist.

It's not really necessary to go to a psychologist to have your IQ tested. There are many other tests now, created by competent individuals who are relatively unbiased, and they can be taken and scored objectively as a questionnaire. It's not an exact science, but you can get a rough idea, by exploring these kinds of tests. I believe psychologist tests should be scrutinized more heavily.

Why not just be honest, and say you don't like his tests.

I'd say the operative phrase there is "might be".

You were being fairly confrontational and making a lot of assumptions. You were also pretty much saying "well, NTs are struggling too, you're not special" which was totally uncalled for- it's highly likely her autistic traits are putting her at a distinct disadvantage that your relatives may not have. Also, many people go off on tangents not entirely connected to the original intent of a thread, that's how discussions evolve.

I'm fairly successful in my field. But there wasn't as much competition for entry positions when I was younger. The latest round of jobs in the service advertised in my area attracted 1500 applicants. Chances are I wouldn't have a hope in hell if I was applying now, I'd be up against a lot of people with far better social skills than me.

You don't know, her, you don't know her experience. And you're being kinda mean. If you want to have discussions/interactions like that, PPR is the place to go.

But she's also assuming as well. The vast majority of graduates I know never managed to get a job in their chosen field as well. When you step back and look at the bigger picture, her experiences are not at all unusual. Whether it's discrimination is far from proven in my eyes.

Were you there? Did you witness what has happened in KT67's job interviews? No, you weren't. You're going on massive assumptions that you are basing on YOUR experience. Not hers. And being fairly cutting in how you're putting your opinion across.

There are loads of degree courses that I honestly don't see the point of. Some that don't have a clear vocational value, and others that are in fields that are completely saturated with people. But I'm not going to single any out, because it's none of my business what people are interested in studying, and I would be pointlessly having a go at the people who have chosen to study those courses.

You didn't get a job in your field? Maybe that was down to being cut out due to aspie traits. You don't know that for sure either. And neither do I, because I don't know you.


Everyone is fighting battles other people know nothing about. Costs nothing to be kind.