Christianity and AS

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Brittany was perfectly in the right.

Religous argument... LOL.

After seeing where this thread went, can anyone deny where the imposing comes from? I've never seen... well, okay, I have, but I have rarely seen so much furvor around telling people they must NOT believe in Christianity and how believing in God is just stupid. This thread is perfect, really, for showing where the true problem lies.

I've said my peace on this -- I won't follow the confused, angry, and arrogant in circles anymore.

Does the true problem lie in the corruption or like what you said, peoples negative opinions about it? Not everyone has been affected by it, and not everyone thinks about it deeply enough so of course not many will understand where the true problem lies. Like you for example, you really dont understand at all.
As I have always said, not all religions were bad, or at least until the right hand path reared its ugly head.

Now you're just shooting in the dark. I did say why the idea of heaven and hell doesn't make sense. Apart from the fact that there's no evidence for their existence, there is evidence for the fact that a mind is just a system of nerve impulses and needs a brain to exist, and logically, when the brain shuts down, the mind cannot possibly keep being a mind. The nerves disconnect, the impulses stop, the brain breaks down, it's over.
"Afterlife" is a supernatural concept. It's magic. Magic doesn't exist. If it did, the laws of physics wouldn't apply. They do. The laws of physics are scientifically proven. God isn't. The afterlife isn't. Magic isn't. Just like vampires and zombies aren't. The idea of afterlife goes against the laws of physics and is therefore ridiculous. There is no evidence or logic behind it. It's just fantasy. You have the right to cling on to it if it makes you feel better, but leave your friends out of it. Don't drag them into the web of lies with you.

What about all the people who should have lived but don't? What's your explanation for good people dying? What's your explanation for children born dead? What's your explanation for all the starving children in the world? Do they deserve it? I say no. The world isn't fair. There is no balance. There is no God. You may be lucky, but think of all the people who aren't. God-fearing and not. Where is God for them?

I believe. Isn't that enough?

I also believe in things like hope and joy and love. You can't see those things either. And not everyone believes in them either.

I can't speak on other people's lives, because I'm not them.

I believe in my dreams too, and no one but me has ever seen them, but they still exist.

You all talk as if it's shameful to believe in something. I think differently.

Its not the fact that you believe in something, it has all to do with exactly what it is that one believes in.. sigh, am I the only one on Earth who sees this?

I find that christianity and AS clash.

Maybe for certain people it does, my brother has AS as well, and hes completely conformed to it.. Me on the other hand..

It's in fact interesting that a lot of users here have answered something like "don't force your belief on others". In this first post of this thread, I don't see something like "forcing", but rather "shar[ing] the Word of God with [people]". That's not necessarily the same as forcing.

To you, fukai_otaku: I'm a Christian aspie too. I like to share what I believe in with others, but normally it happens when people ask me about it (I study theology, and when people hear that, they often want to discuss religion). What people do about it, is their own choice, I think. If it's like "it just goes out one ear and out the other" as you say, I think it's very important to remember that people's salvation or the opposite isn't a question of just what their response was that special day. I mean, what I'll do is pray for those people, that they may recieve Christ and believe in him some day. And pray for wisdom to e.g. answer questions, know when to speak and when to be quiet, pray for love for the persons, etc. Then I've laid the case in his hands. After all, neither you nor I can "convert" a person, that's the job of the Holy Spirit.
It may be that it takes a long time before they, maybe, become Christians, or it may be that we won't see it before the eternity. But that worry, I think, we can throw on God, when we pray for those people. So we don't have to obsess about how it will go to them.
That's what I think. Hope it can be of use.

I don't know if I would say that my religious belief is an obsession as such. But I know what it is to sometimes obsess or perseverate on a theological question.

Please don't pray for me, I find it disrespectful. I don't need saving, or false wisdom.

Belief is completely without evidence. Why not believe in the giant poop that rules the world? Has as much evidence as your god. It isn't shameful, just stupid.

Dreams have been shown to actually exist.

Hi Kalister1,

Don't worry, I haven't done that, because I don't know you.
And just to clarify, I don't say to those people I wrote about that I pray for them, as if I'd say: "poor you, I'll do something nice to you", or something of that kind.

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