The Pro-Cure Thread

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Ephemerella,

Thank you. I didn't even realize it until afterwards the similarities. I originally meant it as a joke, but then I got to thinking a little on it. But not to the level you took it. That's a really good metaphor. LOL.

Is it just me, or is all the people who want to be cured the same ones that character bash us all? They are also the same ones complaining that we do that to them.

If I would be offered a "cure", ie: if I would be offered to be someone else.....
Then my decision would all depend on what person I would get to be.
If I could be Jimi Hendrix I would consider it, otherwise no thanks.

AsI've said before, I am happy with who I am and would never give up the abilities I have just to get rid of the disabilities.

Until relatively recently I just always assumned that most of us lead kind of a dual life so to speak. I have my own personality and then I have a personality I have created over the decades that I can 'put on' when it seems it might be needed so as to make others feel more comfortable. I don't think you can actually 'become' anything but you can pretend to be something and I think we're far better at doing this than regular people are.

Naturella,

This is what I said, so let me highlight a key point...
"Either way, behind that blanket statement of AS being better than NT, as in a majority, as in the stats prove it, they don't. It's a generalization and possibly a false one, but it holds more weight than saying blanket statements on race because no study has tried to prove or disprove it, and it has much more logic behind it. Either way, here's a list of traits I believe are probably Aspie traits, and if they are Aspie traits, then I do think they would make AS better than NT in the cost benefit ratio. ...list"

Um...I never said that there was statistical evidence. Instead, I said, "as in the stats prove it, they don't" which also means, "the stats don't prove it." I meant that toward the blanket statment idea, but then I go on to say how the traits are something I BELIEVE to be Aspie traits, and IF they are, then I THINK it would make AS better than NT. I was trying to be careful on that. I am aware that there is no empiracal evidence to support those traits nor is there any diagnostic criteria that lists them (although I've seen the math one in places, not the APA).

I personally think from experience and watching what others say and believe on this forum that the list I made is worth investigating more. We agree on sincerity, but I mean genuine nature because we don't pretend to be like "How are you, fine, good" type thing. One of the biggest aspie flaw in the neurotypical social culture is that we are too genuine and they don't know how to take that because they are so used to the fake pretend selves. I personally prefer people that are real (in the sense of who keep it real). Good reading and math skills is somethign I've been good at all my life, and I see it with my nephew, and about many others on here. I realize not all Aspies are like that, but you don't need 100% of the people to have a certain feature to show correlation. The focus thing you talk about you just gave it more negative names. It's like some people call me stubborn, but I prefer the term strong willed. Focus and passion for interests could also be called obsessions. On the same thought of people making their personality a strength or weakness, same goes with destructive nature of it. It's not the focus that is destructive, but the person doing the focusing. While the focus may be a destructive force for you, it hasn't been so for me, in fact, for me, it has helped enhance my growth in many occasions. On creativity, I think you may have skipped a line. The interest in dinosaurs isn't what I claimed to lead to creativity. What I claimed led there was the ability to think outside the box. It's basically a phrase NT's gave for the concept of creativity. In many cases, we solve our problems, and I don't know where you are getting your information on that. But the question would be do we solve them more creatively than NT's? I'm sure you obviously disagree with that, but that doesn't mean it's not worth studying into farther. Again on the evidence, I never said it was there. I said the evidence isn't there but that doesn't make it false, and pointed out that it doesn't make it true either, but still worth investigating. Many Aspies seem to say objective thinking is their way to go.

No you don't understand where the superintelligence belief comes from because many Aspies have been diagnosed as such even though they had a speech delay. Yeah, too many stupid people in the field of psychology, but I'm being socially ret*d if I try to correct one. I read at a much earlier age than everyone and was always ahead in math, and nobody ever told me it was a form of intelligence to be able to do that. It was just expected that I do my best at all times, and i'm not sure if that was self imposed. That's why I think I'm personally better is because I always do my best whereas most people half ass their work. But that's not related to the blanket statement, but neither was your comment either. I don't care if my intellectual superiority is part of a syndrome or not, I'm just intellectually superior anyway. I never viewed myself that because people left me out. I viewed myself as that when I function where other people seem to be lacking like turning the profit or scoring high on the exam. Aspergers never gave me that. I didn't even know what Aspergers was until like a couple years ago.

Your list actually proves my theory a little more. Turning to internal thoughts...at least someone of the two in teh conversation is thinking. I do personally switch from one topic to the next easily. I am a woman, duh. I can talk about something as stupid as Angelina needs to kick Jennifer's butt, while deciding what to where at the club in the next sentence while asking my friend a question regarding her problem she mentioned five minutes ago, while listening to the answer, and then switch topic to work, school, whatever all while I'm changing a diaper. It may not have come that easy to me as it does to most women, but I still managed to learn that one early on.

On my math, the only people I met that is better than me at math are those with a PhD in the subject. And the only reason why the phD guy is better is because he spent three times the time I spent to learn something. The thing is that I don't have to focus hard to get it. It's just natural to me. But I seem to miss the easy stuff once in a while. Maybe that is an AS trait, maybe not. Obviously we will never know unless someone like me asks these questions with enough faith to make it worth a study.

"maybe coming from the professed sincerity," I thought you agreed with me on that? I do have good friends, and I'm not that boring. The NT's are boring, but I guess boredom is an opinion. I'm bored watching the military channel sometimes and would rather see some cartoons, and sometimes else, it's vice versa.

I will say the last paragraph was pretty witty. So objectively speaking, since you wanted to psychoanalyze me a little, my turn... Is it possible you would rather your intelligence be from your own self rather than a result of Aspergers? I'm just wondering.