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04 Dec 2011, 8:52 am

I've had both the 'stoner' stereotype and people making vague comments about scary eyes. I hate that one. I'd rather people think I'm a stoner. I need to hurry up and get formally tested because stuff like that, people thinking you're a psycho, really hurts. Especially when deep down you're pretty much a softy but you just don't know how to share it with people.



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05 Dec 2011, 1:13 pm

Apparently I look very intense when being talked to. People have told me I look psyco before. :?

I've also been called a stoner as sometimes I look dazed and zoned out.

It's always either one or the other and I can't seem to find the balance of looking "normal".


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05 Dec 2011, 1:18 pm

Dan_Undiagnosed wrote:
I've had both the 'stoner' stereotype and people making vague comments about scary eyes. I hate that one. I'd rather people think I'm a stoner. I need to hurry up and get formally tested because stuff like that, people thinking you're a psycho, really hurts. Especially when deep down you're pretty much a softy but you just don't know how to share it with people.


Damn. Also this - It could easily be describing me.

Didn't see this one firstly.


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05 Dec 2011, 1:20 pm

My ex has a great Aspie stare. He gets really, really intense and scares the crap out of people. When he's happy. When he's mad they run.


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05 Dec 2011, 5:15 pm

I either get told that it looks like I'm not there or that I'm looking through the person whenever I maintain eye contact. Either way, it seems to make people uncomfortable. It's kind of a double edged sword. When I look away, I get criticized for not looking the person in the eye, and when I do make eye contact it just creeps them out.



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05 Dec 2011, 6:27 pm

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I've been told by an NT person who is close to me that I have an unsettling stare.
Furthermore, she has told me that she's noticed the exact same stare in other people on the autistic spectrum. She characterizes it as a fixed, empty gaze, that appears cold and unfeeling, almost not-human. She says that it makes her feel uncomfortable, creeped-out, etc.

I recently checked out the book Pretending To Be Normal by fellow aspie, Liane Holliday Willey, and it has her picture on the back. I showed the book to my NT friend, and she looked at the picture of the author and said, "Oh my god! It's that stare!! !"

Just today, I looked at myself in the mirror, and I swear I saw what she meant.
There is a quality in my eyes that is haunting, as if the "ME" is missing... it is somewhere lost in my brain, but not present and engaged through my eyes. If the eyes are the window to the soul, then I begin to wonder about the nature of my soul... (not really, just an expression)


Anyways, how do you feel about this?
Do you think that Aspies have a characteristic stare?
Has anyone ever commented on your gaze or the looks you give?

Thanks for your replies!
8O


LoL!! !! *silently tiptoeing away*

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05 Dec 2011, 6:59 pm

I stare quite a lot, often it is because I'm in deep thought and I'm zoning out.



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05 Dec 2011, 7:42 pm

Yes, we can learn some skills, such as lightly, imperfectly watching the entire eye slit area.

At the same time, and I almost think it's more important, when we stare just recover graciously and matter-of-factly

If someone says something

[on the theory that if someone needs space, graciously give space]
"Sorry, didn't mean anything, I have an artist (or philosopher, or scientist) type of personality."

or

" . . I'm on the spectrum." (which means I have patchy skills and that can be a good thing)



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05 Dec 2011, 7:44 pm

The intense anger stare:
"You look angry"
"You look murderous"
(I'm deep in thought or daydreaming or playing out social scenarios: basically, thinking hard and being perplexed)

The despondent stare:
"You look upset, are you OK?"
"Were you just crying?"
(I'm content/happy or mildly excited/amused)

The completely blank stare:
"Hello? Is anyone home?"
"What are you staring at?"
(I'm going over complex spatial concepts, like physics and mathematics, in my head: basically, processing a lot of information)

The obsessive/intense stare:
"Your eyes are boring holes in my skull"
"Why are you looking at me like that?"
(I'm intensely curious of someone's eyes)

The completely blank stare directed at a person:
"What?"
"... What?"
(I've forgotten that I was looking at someone, and started thinking about something else)

It took me about 8 years of rigorously recording (in my mind) seemingly inappropriate reactions people had to my facial expressions to figure out what the correlations were. My facial expressions almost always produce inappropriate reactions from others. When I'm sad, people think I'm tired. When I'm in pain, people think I look afraid or angry. When I'm bored, people think I look very angry. When I'm extremely happy, and start ranting about why, I get this: 8O :?:

I've come to terms with it, and now find it amusing, for the most part.

The lack of facial expression, or inappropriate facial expressions, does seem common in aspies. I see it in a lot of autistic children. They look completely hollow or blank, but I find this comforting. Some seem to find it creepy or off-putting.



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05 Dec 2011, 9:06 pm

Acacia wrote:
I've been told by an NT person who is close to me that I have an unsettling stare.
Furthermore, she has told me that she's noticed the exact same stare in other people on the autistic spectrum. She characterizes it as a fixed, empty gaze, that appears cold and unfeeling, almost not-human. She says that it makes her feel uncomfortable, creeped-out, etc.

I recently checked out the book Pretending To Be Normal by fellow aspie, Liane Holliday Willey, and it has her picture on the back. I showed the book to my NT friend, and she looked at the picture of the author and said, "Oh my god! It's that stare!! !"

Just today, I looked at myself in the mirror, and I swear I saw what she meant.
There is a quality in my eyes that is haunting, as if the "ME" is missing... it is somewhere lost in my brain, but not present and engaged through my eyes. If the eyes are the window to the soul, then I begin to wonder about the nature of my soul... (not really, just an expression)


Anyways, how do you feel about this?
Do you think that Aspies have a characteristic stare?
Has anyone ever commented on your gaze or the looks you give?

Thanks for your replies!
8O



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3jg3N4h92U



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05 Dec 2011, 9:07 pm

ephemeralbeings wrote:
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The despondent stare:
"You look upset, are you OK?"
"Were you just crying?"
(I'm content/happy or mildly excited/amused)
. . .

Welcome to Wrong Planet! :D And thank you for an excellent post.

I wonder if you could take it the next step and casually prepare quick comebacks? like 'Actually, I'm happy and mildly amused.' Although with human beings unpredictable, ourselves fully included, probably only work part of the time.



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11 Feb 2012, 6:42 pm

I get this look when I'm thinking deeply about things not related to my present surroundings. I do this a lot because my brain is usually in an intense state of internal concentration. I'm trying to train myself in public to have my eyes travel over objects and pretend to "look" at them while at the same time blinking them occasionally. I don't know if this looks any less "creepy." In all of the photos here, the Aspies look very alive and human to me, more so than the photos of the NT's. I "see" the Aspie brains working intensely behind those eyes whereas the NT's look dopey (don't mean to be derogatory but that's the best term I can think of to describe it). Regarding the photos of the girl who supposedly had the Aspie stare in some photos and not in others, the difference in the eyes doesn't seem to be consistent to me but I did notice a slightly gaping mouth was a characteristic of all but one of the "Aspie stare" photos.



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12 Feb 2012, 4:43 am

I wear sunglasses in public when I can to avoid eye contact with others. It makes me uncomfortable when someone notices I'm looking at them. Most times I purposely don't look at people. I'm told that my eye contact looks scary, or like I'm "gone" or i get asked if something's wrong because I'm staring at nothing, away from people.



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12 Feb 2012, 6:45 am

<----Here's me doing "the stare".



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12 Feb 2012, 6:46 am

I often feel empty, and probably look it, but I haven't noticed it on other spectrum people.


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12 Feb 2012, 9:27 am

There is no such thing as an ''Asperger's Stare'' - people stare at me all the time. When I go to wait in the bus stop the other people standing there all stare at me for ages. And no it's not because I do anything different because I don't (and I'm not explaining all that again), but in short, there is no reason for them to stare so I think people just stare for the sake of staring.


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