why are they so many AS fakers?

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It's a controversial topic is why.

Some people tell me that they didn't see anything wrong with me when I tell them about my diagnosis. I know I have lived a life of trying to fit in, since I was diagnosed as an adult, but I'm always surprised, because it seems obvious to me. I guess they notice afterwards, though, that I'm different and then start to put two and two together.

But before I was diagnosed, I was afraid of people thinking that I was not an aspie, so I cleared any thought from my mind that AS was the answer to my problems. But my hunch was right in the end, and didn't have to deny what I felt was the right label for me, just because other people did not agree.

That's reading a lot into what the OP wrote. I doubt you could ascertain any such motive.



Maybe the OP was wondering why so many people are "faking AS" in his perception:

I haven't read hte entire thread either, but I ted to agree mostly with EstherJ. Then again, I also have to say that Asperger's shoudl not be florified as osme kind of superhumanity, as it occasionally is, because htat could, in theory, lead to fakers.

By the way, I've hear dina ll mental health condition communities people accusing huge number sof others of faking their condition, and I tend to feel that it says more of the accusers than of the accused. I have been accused over hte Internet of faking dissociative identity disorder, and I do not see what the point is. DID doe snot have the glroy to it that AS occasionally does, but there is some appeal to wanting some kind of label (and there is some research into DID that says patients with other conditions want this label because it makes them special, although I hav eno clue where these researchers get that).

So, please be careful to accuse others of "faking". You can't see another's inner experience, so even if they look "normal" that doesn't mean they are NT.

To answer on a personal basis, I do not wan't to fake Asperger Syndrome. I wan't to be diagnosed properly so that I can proceed with the proper treatment and became the best I can be. I have yet to get an official diagnosis, but I strongly believe that I have asperger syndrome. You also have to bear in mind that AS can be more or less severe on a case by case basis. There are a number of people who don't truly understand AS. Unfortunately, the Falsehood of a book The curious Incident of the Dog in the Nightime has confused many over what AS is really about. I am strongly considering meeting with the head of my English Department to request that he take this off of the school reading list in exchange for a more accurate book. I would never wan't to fake AS, it would be a disgrace to those with it and a disgrace to me.

I saw reviews that that was an awful book but never read it myself. It's not sounding good though.

Well, I figured out how to "fake being NT" before I had even heard of autism so I can answer that.

Basically, people stereotype madly. When you meet someone, your have a stereotype label stuck on you within the first few seconds of them speaking to you. Good luck getting that label changed later, it's virtually impossible.

All you need to do is present a plausible stereotype that people readily accept, basically. Don't try and fit in, the more you do so the more the little things stand out. However, should you decide to deliberately stand out you'll fit right in.

I get something of a free pass on body movements and facial expressions as I was once in the Air Cadets (http://www.raf.mod.uk/aircadets/whoweare/) and having learnt to march and do military drill I have a mildly military bearing so people do not naturally expect much from me in the way of body language or facial expression. Slower vocal responses are countered by being recast into being a man of few words and always thinking things through before opening my mouth.

Since I know what to look for, I have seen several other people doing similar things with stereotypes and I am convinced that those people are on the spectrum, although they may not even know it. If there isn't already some form of a secret handshake, one is sorely needed!

Whos faking I could hardly tell or care and who the hell would want to be one of us? Look NTs being an aspie isnt always all cracked up to be but if you like being unable to manage your stress levels have high anxiety levels and be prone to sensory overloads then by all means. Oh yeah and constantly be called a freak and treated like an outsider.

Sorry just read thru the whole discussion to this point it seems that logical discussion will not resolve this. So continuance is futility. I will no longer waste the energy on this discussion, but instead use it some were elts.

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So what you're saying is that because I have a girlfriend, I can't possibly have aspergers? Wow, the only idiot I see here is you.

BRAVO! wholeheartedly agree. And this is just a troll, so nothing further needs to be said. 10 pages worth of feeding the troll when the above quote really sums it up nicely. Let's just call it a day, folks and let the troll move along to greener pastures elsewhere, shall we?

I still don't understand what a "troll" is. My literal mind sees something under a bridge, and I can't see how that relates to a forum.

Let's change this drawn-out post to an explanation on internet slang, shall we?

I have been diagnosed by a psychiatrist with lots of experience with and a special interest in adults with ASDs. This diagnosis was confirmed by an expert at the local autistic society.

I have always worked, and have held my current job for 7 years. I have been with my husband for 18 years (10 years married). Yet these specialists say I have and ASD. They also don't find it odd that I am married and have a job. Because of my strict adherence to rules I take both my Marriage and my work contract very seriously and work hard to keep them going, am loyal beyond expectations and I am also very honest (which is very helpful in a marriage and fortunately is valued in my job). I am clearly having difficulties with some areas of my life as a result of my ASD, and as a result the local autistic society have recommended I have weekly meetings with a support worker.

You clearly have a stereotypes idea of how people with ASDs are affected. Remember though we have an ASD we are all individuals and have different strengths and weaknesses.

I don't see how striving to be an integrated and functioning person in society excludes one from having a social disability.

I believe this is a myth.
I never met a person who just faked it.
I met people who thought that they are autistic but had something else in the end or where it wasn't shure, but that's something else than faking it.
You can be diagnosed wrong with every diagnoses and my opinion is that many autistics are slightly paranoid and are thinking everyone else is just an evil fraud who is just faking it.

And some strange exeptions are still not many.
There is more paranoia and fear involfed in this topic than it's even worth to discuss it.

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Although the under-bridge dweller is often implied, the term is generally believed to be derived from a fishing term for dragging bait through the water hoping for a bite. On the internet, a troll is one who posts intending to elicit a heated response

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