Aspergers and Drug Use

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Oh, absolutely, what he he was illegal... we were both about 22, 23 years old so neither of us minors but that's beside the point. Let's just say the "friendship" sorta went downhill from there...

Chronologically:

Enjoyed refined sugar products as a kid but avoided consuming them.

Grew up around smokers but abhorred the act of smoking.

Got sucked into peer pressure gravitational vortex;
explored entire spectrum of illicit drugs for years and learned names, symptoms, side effects, recipes, and origins for each.

Dropped black market chemicals for cigarettes, antidepressants, and alcohol.

Tapered down to four to fifteen cigarettes per day with occasional booster cup of caffeine. Infrequently consume a shot of hard liquor, glass of wine, or beer.

Trying repeatedly to drop smoking habit with limited success. Nicotine seems to spark of normal functioning and may be a necessary medication.

I think when it comes to drug use its hard to say it's "not in our nature", as every one is different, even those who lie on the ASD. I myself was a heavy drug user and pot smoker for about four years through my teen years until the paranoia got the better of me and I had to stop. I still enjoy the odd social smoke but weed and stimulant drugs generally make me over think everything I'm doing and think other people are thinking I'm weird/socially inappropriate. This is not good for my self esteem Alcohol on the other hand I still sadly have a sort-of reliance on. Especially in social situations it helps to loosen me up so I'm not overly concerned about trying to act "normal". My problem tends to be I often go overboard and get way too sloshed which can have serious repercussions on my health and well being. Oh well, I suppoes noones perfect.

I'm on drugs right now... waiting for a small dose of DXM to kick in. I prefer weed, but I don't have any right now (when starting conversations with strangers gives you panic attacks, and you don't know anyone in the town you live in, it's hard to come by).

I'd like to start doing psychedelics, but I'm too nervous about having a bad trip. I think I have a lot of issues under the surface that I haven't been willing to admit to myself, so I want to start out with ecstasy (as both self-therapy and recreational, though the former is what is relevant to this sentence), so I can face those issues and maybe feel more confident about not having a bad trip.

If I started doing stimulants (aside from caffeine, which I am heavily addicted to), I'd never be able to quit. I'm the type of person who really likes stimulants, so I can't do anything more than said caffeine. Especially since stimulants are like the worst kind of drug for you, physically.

I'm allergic to opiates, so that's not even an option.

I haven't given much thought to other kinds of drugs, though I might at some point.

I smoke cigarettes. I drink alcohol when I get the opportunity, though I've only managed to down enough to get drunk once.

Drug users, beware that drugs may do irreversible damage to vital organs of your body and will over time cause psychological/physiological disorders as well as sexual dysfunctions.

A damaged neuron may be revived if the body has any healing power left, but a dead neuron is dead forever!
When your healing power(neurotransmitters, hormones etc) is emptied by drugs, you'r testicular/ovarian function will die because there is no dopamine to fuel it.
There is no way to revive a dead testicular function.

Conclusion: Don't do drugs

U hav lyke ttly opned my eyes. lolol. drugzr badd!! !

Seriously, you're ridiculous. If this were a drug forum I'd assume you were a troll. Since it's not, I have no choice but to think that you actually believe that you are making lots of sense. Are you kidding me???! !! Come on!! !!

Marijuana!
Thats my poison #1. I use a herbal vaporizer (The Volcano) to extract and inhale the THC. I love it to death as it helps me concentrate and silences some of those stray thoughts, relaxes me, and generally makes everything more fun. I've been smoking weed for the past 3 years and vaporizing for the past 6 months and I can honestly say a vaporizer is worth the cost to save your lungs. Besides that point, I'm still climbing to the top of the charts at my job at Dell so I know its not making me any stupider! Those of you who think weed goes in the same mind destroying catagory as heroin/meth/crack might want to do a little bit more research.

Generally when people talk about drugs they are refering to the illicit ones, so the only other illicit one I've tried is Mushrooms. I've gotta tell yahif you've never tried a psychadellic trip and you're itching to, do mushrooms once. Theres no OD limit so they're perfectly save, but if you take too many you'll have a bad trip and feel insane for a few hours so be careful.

Now on to my favorite topic What most people dont consider to be drugs.
Caffine - Addictive properties often are compared to that of heroin
Alcohol - I just hate it when people say "Drugs and alcohol" as if to seperate them
Tylenol - Kills more brain cells than weed you goodie goodies
Prozzac - Not one I usually mention but it seems a lot of people here are on it. 1 chemical property different than speed, right?

So bottom line is DRUGS ARE GOOD!... In moderation

I am serious. It seems my post really upset you. Though I'm interested in hearing why you discard and ridicule my argument.
What makes it so invalid to you?

I'm interested in hearing that from you, in a non-hostile manner though.

Well first and foremost, you say "drugs" like there's only one kind and it will affect everyone the same way. That immediately discards anything remotely scientific-sounding you say.

You don't post sources, so basically you're saying "trust me, I know what I'm talking about" when we have no reason to believe that.

You don't use specifics, you just use shocking 50's propaganda-type headlines. "Marijuana, Assassin of Youth! Destroys Reproductive Organs! Tell Your Children!"

Last and least, you're super preachy, which only works when you're in front of a choir. Otherwise, it just annoys the crap out of me, and I'm sure others feel the same. This would almost be forgivable if not for the first and second points.

I'm sorry if this post seemed hostile (the other one was meant to, but not this one), but I've never gotten the hang of criticizing someone's logic on a subject I'm passionate about without being mean about it. I did try my best to keep it down though, does that count for something?

And anyway, if it destroys my ovaries, all the better, I don't want to have kids.

Marijuana everyday. Plus alcohol or some psychedelic once in a while.

Well here is my drug history....I was given weed from my brother who was an addict who has since died from his addiction.
Heroin in this case but anyway I didn't like it and do to his death I don't think I'll try illicit drugs anytime soon.
I smoke about a pack of cigs a day...It calms me down.
I also have drank to excess but I stopped despite liking it...same reason as smoking.
There you go.

Ok:

http://www.actionlove.com/extra/streetdrugs.htm

And where do they get their info? They're basically doing the same thing you are; "trust me". I didn't see any reference to any actual studies. Any idiot can make claims about what drugs do to you. They also say "drugs" like they're all the same thing, and they effect all the same things, despite having completely different chemical makeups. Anyone that does that, by definition, is full of crap.

OK. You may discard the information if you want. I'm not here to try to convince anybody. But I feel privileged to warn people from falling into the same trap as I fell into without being ridiculed.
As long as I provide the information, it is up to everyone else to personally judge it.
Warning others from destroying themselves makes me sleep better at night

The government pays billions of dollars to do exactly what you are doing but the problem is you are doing exactly what they do and it obviously doesn't work. I know informing people of the consequences sounds good but it IS preachy. I am not stating "stop with your opinions" but offer it then there's not much one can do as you cannot "convince" someone their life is the same as yours. The side of the argument you argue is the same as the governments and it doesn't work. There is something about the "tactics" involved.

It seems anti-drug protestors do a LOT of judging on others. "This" will happen or "that" will happen but the best anyone can provide as evidence is "case by case" scenarios. When I read into the differences between viewpoint, I start to think the problem lies at the user of the drug and not the drug itself. Its hard to tell the difference between a reponsible pot user and a normal sober person unless their life is s**t and to blame that "life" on drugs while "how they were raised" or "who they hang out with" is neglected.

There is more to life then drugs. Both when you use them and when you want to post blame on it. Anyone who recovers from "addiction" of anything, in my opinion, is simply regaining control of something they lost. They just see the drug use 'decline' then lay blame everything about their current situations on 'the drug' and not ALL their decisions up until then. The way they lived, the way they "thought" and viewed life, there depressions or anxieties, these are all neglected and one simple choice, to smoke pot, is all that there is to blame.

Drugs are as bad as you (generally speaking) make them. If you want them to ruin your life, get an addiction. If you dont want them to interfere, be responsible with them like you would anything else.

Oh great.. Looks like we are all having fun with this topic.

I know that the government promotes anti-drug campaigns. But what is also really excessive in promotion is the pressure to get diagnosed & take psychiatric drugs for any good enough reason that the psychiatrists can find possible. This is why psychiatries DSM "their horrific bible" has gone through five revisions since 1952. A new one is expected by 2011.

If so many people go through this system then they are winning. They are taking over. Is this what we want with street drugs?

Since people don't find any time to want to seek any answers other than their drug then I'm not going to immediately think it to be meaningful to post anything scientific about the brain or of substances that can warp the chemistry of it either. I only do this for people who are aware of that kind of stuff. I don't mix in with ignorant drug users - people who don't want others to preach at them etc.

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