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GoatOnFire
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19 Aug 2008, 1:54 am

I hate the human race, and any of the sub races, too. Goats are marvelous, though.


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19 Aug 2008, 2:55 am

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I hate the human race, and any of the sub races


There are no sub races..



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19 Aug 2008, 3:04 am

Apes. Apes are a sub-race. Sort of. Well, no, not really...
Cousins, more like... Wait, how are they sub-races, then...?

I confused myself...


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19 Aug 2008, 4:05 am

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Why? That strikes me as odd. Australia is mostly white; so that is a perfectly ordinary thing. The mentality of overt "multi-culturalism" smacks of that false sympathy strewn about when I was a child in school; feel sorry for the minorities. Embrace ethnicity!

F**k ethnicity! That just seems... weird, to "embrace" it, simply because somebody is a foreigner, attention has to be drawn to them.
I've never understood it... It just seems strange to try and feel "sorry" for them. Big deal. How were other races different from any other race again?
None are particularly any stupider than the last.

But, I suppose that could be just my perspective... after all, I'm mixed - damn near every major racial group save Asian.
About representation in the media... I think it has some significance, also depending on the setting of the show if it's fiction. I mean, the Netherlands where I live are predominantly white, but the cities in particular have very rich and diverse demographics, both in culture and ethnicity.
It's understandable that a show set in a rural village somewhere in Drenthe would have an all-white cast, but the major soap operas and sitcoms barely have any characters of say African, Indonesian, Turkish descent in them. In recent years, it's been attempted to even this out a little, though.

I am racially mixed myself, of Indonesian and Caribbean descent, a product of Dutch colonialism basically. Like you, I've always felt that race is a relative thing; after all, I 'am' Asian, Black, as well as Caucasian. However, last year I saw heated discussions on a comic book forum about the representation of African-descended characters in superhero comics. The threads about this topic were many, and the discussions were long. Representation of your own race in the media may very much be a comfort, something recognisable. While ethnicity in fiction never mattered that much to me personally, it's good if that representation is at least available to others.

About 'white guilt', I agree with most of what you said; as terrible as colonialism, slavery, segragation are, you can't blame it on an ethnicity. Individuals were responsible for it, and individuals (among which were whites as well) opposed it. But 'white guilt', unless taken too far, may also be the simple awareness that a number of our predecessors had blood on their hands, and that the consequences of what they did are still felt in lesser and greater form as racism and social inequality based on ethnicity. We've come a long way, but we're not quite there yet.


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28 Mar 2010, 6:24 pm

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What is your race? I'm a black aspie and I hate my own race too; to the point where I've actually realized that I am racist against black people :( .


I hate to say it, but I've also become prejudice against blacks & I'm black & white. I just hate the way they've treated me most of my life & how they treat other people. I'ts gotten me to the point that I hate them now.



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28 Mar 2010, 7:15 pm

I don't have any problem with race, it is my species I am not particularly fond of.


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28 Mar 2010, 7:27 pm

Confused-Fish wrote:
GoatOnFire wrote:
I hate the human race, and any of the sub races


There are no sub races..


The human race has classified themselves into sub races based on the spf level of their skin. Low spf skinned people are whities, high spf skinned people are blackies, there's also brownies and many other nauseating colors to choose from. Something about human skin makes the color look terrible no matter what color it is.


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28 Mar 2010, 7:30 pm

Can't people separate people that are are certain race with the race as a whole?
My mum says really negative things about Indians and Asians because how a few people that are of that race talk to customer service. My sister and brother say racist things too.
I like being half Indian. In fact, I wish I just lived in India with my relatives in a small community and grow my own food. I feel like living in the west is just too much luck. By that I mean if I'm hungry I get just go to the supermarket and buy food. If I run out of money I can just earn some through work or from the government (if I'm unable to work). I do feel lucky to live in a country with so much luxury but I feel that sometimes I'd like to actually earn the simple things in life through hard work. I'll have to go to my relatives village one day.


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28 Mar 2010, 11:25 pm

I love people of all races and genders. I was just thinking about this thread, two days, ago.


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29 Mar 2010, 12:29 am

I don't hate my race. I don't hate any race or even dislike people for what race they are.



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29 Mar 2010, 12:32 am

I'm Caucasian, but I don't really hate myself for being so because I pride myself in being accepting of others, regardless of race, gender, orientation, or religion. On the other hand, most of the racist pricks I know are indeed Caucasian. I know it's not because they're white, it's because they're ignorant, intolerant idiots... but still, you wonder why we Caucasians have the biggest reputation for racism. Even almost a century after WWII, white people still have that particular stigma attached to them, and it doesn't help that all of the southern redneck KKK neo-Nazis perpetuate that view. It gives us a bad name and seriously makes me sick.

Course, I have said things that could be construed as racist when I've been really pissed off. Once I told my cousin during a heated argument to "go back to Japan" (she's Japanese on her mother's side). Later I realized how incredibly mean I was and sent her apologies via email, Facebook, etc., and finally she forgave me and we put it past us, but I still feel ashamed that I sunk that low, even when I was really pissed off and not thinking straight.


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29 Mar 2010, 3:44 am

Racism/race/interacial conflict and warfare etc. are one of nature's sneaky attempts to reduce population numbers via evolutionary method. Doesn't know any better- we should. Don't fall for it.
Have nuclear armed states now and we should grow out of such stuff. All individual actions add
up into complex social-economic political systems- which in turn feed back into individuals.

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29 Mar 2010, 3:55 am

Does anybody hate their own race?
- No and I don't hate any race at all.


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29 Mar 2010, 4:04 am

No. I don't hate people for anything that wasn't their choice, especially when it's something like race that doesn't matter in the first place. And the same applies to my feelings about myself.



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29 Mar 2010, 4:31 am

I don't hate anyone, never have, hopefully never will. Whenever I detect ugly feelings in myself I try to counteract them by changing my perspective. Hate is always destructive, never productive.

I'm not proud of my race though (pasty white as you can see to the left), but I'll admit to being proud of certain aspects of my country. I try not to get inflated though, because I really didn't have anything to do with the positive aspects of Swedish society (how could I?)

I used to wish I was a different race when I was younger, partly because I noticed so many beautiful people from other parts of the world, but mostly because I could never fit in among Swedes. I felt like the foreign kids would have been even nicer to me if I wasn't a Swede , i. e on of "them". :roll:



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29 Mar 2010, 10:35 am

I know that over here you don't talk about races- I see that in the US even ion official forms they have 'races' I prefer ethnicity as this is a lot more precise to explain what culture they come from rather than what skin colour or other features they have.