First time in history!! !! The NT/AS open hotline ! !! !! !

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Its an expression that means "choosing something without much thought." As you've noted, it does not mean "at random" in the literal sense of the term.

A question for NT's - have you found yourself taking on any AS traits from your partner and if so what

The related question for AS's - have you seen your partner taking on any AS traits

And finaly for both - any NT traits at all taken on by the AS partner

A question for NT's - have you found yourself taking on any AS traits from your partner and if so what

I think the most obvious trait I've picked up is to be less vocal about strong emotions I'm feeling. My AS bf doesn't tell me in words how he feels about me often. He shows me in many other, very lovely ways, specific to him. But I think this has caused me to kind of mirror his ways. I don't vocalize my feelings towards him either but try to show him more through actions. I'm sure this is a defense mechanism on my part to try to avoid feeling hurt by not getting a response I'd hope to hear. Do you think this is a good way to handle it? Do you think he'd LIKE to hear more "I love yous" and sweet words? Or is that likely to make him uncomfortable?

The related question for AS's - have you seen your partner taking on any AS traits

As NT I can't answer this one.

And finaly for both - any NT traits at all taken on by the AS partner[b]

I think he enjoys taking on some of my social activities. Specific ones. And in my company. Things he would never have done on his own, but enjoys doing.

To anyone with AS:

What is your definition of Neurotypical?

Do you see everyone who does not have autism as Neurotypical, or do you see only those who devote their lives to being social butterflies as Neurotypical? If there existed a man who devoted himself to finding truth and logic regardless of what anyone else around him thought of it, but had none of the other symptoms of autism, would you consider him Neurotypical? What about those who see great importance in socializing but also have a very intellectual side?

1) Since neurotypical is by definition "neurologically typical", then of course anyone with neurological differences (i.e., cerebral palsy, autism, downs syndrome, etc.) is not neurotypical. However, the term is used as a catchall for those who do have an intuitive grasp of social behavior, natural empathy, and so-called ToM, as opposed to people on the spectrum who lack one or more of these attributes.

2) Yes, I would consider said man an NT, albeit, one I could fully appreciate conversing with.

3) I see importance in socializing, too, as it's a crucial part of networking. I just suck at it. I get the feeling that's not what you're asking, though. Perhaps rephrase the question?

I am confused, because there is no such thing as NT or AS individuals, we are all different and I feel in a way everyone is on the spectrum of life, some of us who have more intense differences spectrum or otherwise at times are labelled with words such as aspergers, which only describe in part who we are, its not who we are... i.e. my family is a combination, mix of differences and I would not want to call them NT or AS as such, as there is no real divide. We live in a diverse community and we should accept each individual without a need to label everyone as such.

I do understand the concept of some wanting to understand various differences, my self a combination of neurological and other differences, but I am not called bipolar, or intellectual learning, so why AS or NT???

A question from an Aspie to a NT: Why do NTs want to cure us?

My NT status is unknown but I seem to have a good bead on the NT perspective.

*pretends to be your average stereotypical NT*
Basically, you guys are mean and rude! You make us NTs feel really uncomfortable and your voice annoys us! You guys have a mental disorder and need to be cured, just like those crazy schizophrenics who do crazy things they're not supposed to!

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I don't. I really don't care whether you are autistic or not. If there is a person who wants to cure you, you will have to ask that person specifically since everybody has their own reasons. We are all individuals. There is no group mind.

This is just creating a straw man.

Not that I'm an NT, but, I'm also not an aspie. From observation, seems to me, for the most part, they don't want to cure you, they want to cure their autistic children.

And, I think the desire for a cure comes out of black and white thinking about autism. Thinking of it as a thing instead of a collection of things. They want to emotionally connect with their children. They want their children to grow up to be functional adults (happy, healthy, functional adults, but the functional is the relevant bit here). And their view of autism makes them think a cure is what's needed for that.

The parents who want to cure their children are the parents who have children who appear to have no ability to be self-sufficient in their future, and appear to be unhappy. I don't think cure because, simply, I have neither of those issues: I am comfortable that my AS son can grow up and take care of himself, and I am comfortable that he is and will be able to live a life that makes him happy. So why change anything about him? But if I thought that his AS interfered with those things, would I want to change it? Maybe. As parents, the instinct is to give our children two gifts: self-sufficiency and happiness. If you can't give those gifts, you are naturally at odds with your instincts.

A pretty accurate straw man. I've been known to make some very realistic scarecrows in my time! So realistic, it's scary and people want to deny its realism.

Pffft. I'm a lot less rude than most people I know

Being too quiet is also considered rude.

So is talking while others are
People are always wanting others to be more quiet so they can talk more.