Gender Identity Disorder and Asperger's Syndrnome.
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You mean, implications like my poor motor skills and sensory issues? Very telling. I wonder.....
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I don't have any gender issues or anything. I don't see why I should. I'm born female, and that's that. I've just got to cope with all the social and ''beauty'' pressure women have, but getting to overwhelmed and stressed by it doesn't make me like a man.
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I have gender issues, but not in the sense of feeling like a man in a woman's body. It's more like I feel that gender is silly and I can't be bothered with it. This is how I've always felt. I feel like I fail as a female, but I resent the idea that I should care (though I did used to care about my lack of femininity). My life is too short to spend worrying about gender.
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I think the two are definitely related.
I voted that I don't have AS or gender issues, but I do have and have had gender dyspohria for as long as I can remember. I don't consider this an *issue*. It's not a problem for me, and it's not uncommon, even in "normal", heterosexual people.
It makes sense that so many girls on the spectrum would feel this way, If they indeed have masculinized brain wiring, which I also have, as indicated by a low 2D4D ratio.
I do feel male, but I'm pretty feminine in appearance, and that doesn't make me uncomfortable. I never understood why I should want to identify as another socially constructed gender, just because I don't identify with all the aspects of the socially constructed gender that I was born into. If the roles mean nothing anyway, what's the difference?
I relate with transgendered people in the sense that I understand the thought process, but I see no reason why I should want to be male because I "feel" male.
If Venus and Serena Williams are allowed to identify as female then I'm not going anywhere.
I have autism and am female (in mind and body).
Edit: Although when I was a kid, there were several years in elementary school I wanted to be a boy. It wasn't enough though to be considered transgendered at the time, and I certainly am not now. I am fine being female.
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Diagnosed with classic Autism
AQ score= 48
PDD assessment score= 170 (severe PDD)
EQ=8 SQ=93 (Extreme Systemizer)
Alexithymia Quiz=164/185 (high)
I am a wealth of information conceding the correlations, in fact most gender tests have an aspergers related question here is one for instance, "do you notice a loose thread on someones clothes" yes that kind of question is common on gender tests and it does seem to me to be an odd type of question where your shooting to diagnose GID (gender I density disorder).
My first cross gender wishes and desires came early in childhood, say by 7 or 8. I am male and heterosexual so feeling like a female felt, strange but normal. The older I got the more confused I became till eventually at around 14 I realized other boys didn't feel quit the way I felt.
I never married I'm 40 now and in the middle of transitioning form male to female. I've never been with a male, however I do consider it a little now but not seriously. In fact the last sexual encounter I had was back in 1996, I am asexual and have been for many years, ever since my boy was born, he's 17 now.
I have no sexual goals my only goal is happiness. After a lifetime of denying I felt this way I'm excepting this. It has not been easy. I will not consider myself a lesbian after gender reassignment surgery for I will probably still be asexual but I will be content. I don't think about sex much like a typical male not sure I ever did however I did want very much to be a man because I wanted to fit in.
Really would have liked to know what hearing the person you love say those words "I do" but I suppose it was never in the cards for me. I envy people who can touch and receive touch, hugging and kissing and cuddling. It's just not like that for me it doesn't mean I don't wish it was. I don't know that anyone else here feels quit that way?
I think it's possible I got side tracked by the way I learn, see I have to be things to understand them. I really liked girls but didn't understand them or even why I liked them, so, I would imagine I was female to see what they are like? I'm not sure most boys do that? Real girls terrified me. I had an imaginary friend named jack i built roads with I had an imaginary friend named jill I did other things with.
I don't know, I suspect lots of boys have imaginary girlfriends at 10 and 10 was a long time ago.
It's just that I thought of myself as a female when other boys didn't, not sure why? I only know I am happy to be assuming the female roll in society, I pass pretty good, I look way younger then I am, look around 27. Gender dysphoria has a mind of it's own and fighting it will get you no where fast. The #1 reason I want GRS (gender reassignment surgery) is so I can go swimming in a proper swim suit, or wear a skirt without sorting about my junk making a hump, or wear tight jeans, or proper underwear. I can't do any of these things very well as is.
Perhaps I've said too much perhaps not enough, not real sure what is socially acceptable when discussing delicate subjects, not sure what's tolerable here, Hopefully the truth is. To all who visit this forum who have GID and Aspergers, your not alone. How ever weird you think you might be think of me, it's all good. I pass well but people can tell I'm male, in ove a year now no one has out right laughed at me, thank you Canada:)
Jenna
I'm a MtF transsexual now 11 years post-op. I was assessed at CLASS in Cambridge in 2007 where they concluded that though I show significant autistic deficits, the overall degree of impairment was not great enough to warrant diagnosis with an ASD. My AQ, EQ and SQ scores are well into the autistic range, also Catell scale IQ measured at 159.
Assuming there is something in Baron-Cohen's extreme-male-brain theory of autism, I'm inclined to think that without a female gender identity, I would have been seen as more obviously autistic earlier in life, and possibly significantly more impaired. I actually think that CLASS got it wrong and consider myself at least as an Aspie and that I probably have undiagnosed AS. I've toyed with getting a second opinion but not yet sought one. Where, after all, does one go after CLASS?
Reports in the medical/neuroscience literature about people with GID and ASD are few in number and AFAI can see, little, unfortunately, is known about this pattern of co-morbidity. I suspect that people with both ASD and GID are neuroatypical with respect to the autistic population just as autistics are neuroatypical with respect to the general population. I have no confidence in the ability of autism specialists accurately to diagnose ASD in people with GID.
Just because you have the cognitive ability to cope better than average with autistic traits doesn't mean that they do not adversely affect your quality of life - but it would be IMO a triumph of hope over experience to get doctors to admit this.
I was diagnosed with GID-NOS (Not Otherwise Specified) a few years ago, as at the time my neuropsychologist did not consider me transsexual. I also have Asperger's, not to mention physical problems like low vision. I did OK as a boy in life until my teenage years, then I felt I didn't fit in at all- I gradually started feeling more identified in some ways with females., and growing facial hair and such was a bit of a downer. Recently I've thought about transitioning, and started laser hair removal (doing it myself). I'd like to explore my sexual identity first, though, because alot of it is unknown to me.
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Cognitive ability does not necessarily equal "the ability to cope better than average with autistic traits."
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> Just because you have the cognitive ability to cope better than average with autistic traits
> doesn't mean that they do not adversely affect your quality of life - but it would be IMO a
> triumph of hope over experience to get doctors to admit this.
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> Cognitive ability does not necessarily equal "the ability to cope better than average with
> autistic traits."
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Cognitive ability has helped me to compensate *well but by no means perfectly* for A-traits. I certainly agree, however, that it does not in itself equate to the ability to cope. However smooth I can make everyday social interaction appear, it remains a very tiring performance and I can be completely drained at - or even long before - the end of the day. (In comparison wrangling with abstract mathematics is far less tiring - and I often find it quite relaxing).
The psychologist who did my assessment at CLASS said that she did not want to "pathologize" difficulties that she thought might in themselves be the result of high cognitive ability. I can to some degree understand that position but of course this leaves one in limbo as far as assessment goes. Having the gender reassignment surgery has stripped one layer of social facade and thereby *simplified* social performance but the baseline problem with A-deficits remains.
I do not think that I identify with the opposite biological sex, which in my case would be female, over my own, which is male. But I do feel that for me gender, apart from one's sex, is meaningless anyway. So ,even if I were to fulfill mainstream society's criteria of feminity, I still imagine that I wouldn't be troubled about my innermost being not matching my outer form. Which is also why I don't get the dilemma behind the plot for Ranma 1/2. I think that I'd be thrilled if I could alternate between bodies. So I might be androgynous. But then again, I was born in the 80's, which was an androgynous decade I think.
I have AS, and although I'm bit more of a tomboy, I still never feel like a boy. I don't find makeup or dressing super nice a big deal on most days, but I do find it fun on some occasions. My favorite activities are involved with science and sports, which in the past have been stereotypical male activities, but there are currently a lot of females who are interested in sports and science.
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