The NT Has No Clothes

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Hang on. Saying NTs shouldn't defend themselves on this thread is like starting a thread saying that all Chinese people are brainwashed communists and then complaining when some Chinese people respond to defend themselves and point out that actually they're not.

If you can't listen to other people's perspectives then you are no better than the narrow mindedness that you dislike.

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Not to mention that most of those who disagreed are actually on the spectrum, myself included.

Oh sorry. I misunderstood. You mean good surprised that NTs are participating.

Yeah I'd agree. This is an interesting thread.

Normal society defines the rules for everyone, normal or not. The chances of receiving support other than being pushed towards "normal" are slim. Society rather discards the abnormal than providing a supportive environment for those who can't cope with "normal".

This paper http://www.cmaj.ca/content/early/2016/06/21/cmaj.160365 makes for sobering reading:
If assisted dying is legalized for patients with psychiatric conditions, it will not be just for severe, refractory depression. In Belgium and the Netherlands, medical assistance in dying has been provided to people with chronic schizophrenia, posttraumatic stress disorder, severe eating disorders, autism, personality disorders and even prolonged grief ...

Most people who request it for such reasons have characteristics that compromise their ability to cope with adversity, including personality disorders and social disconnection. Discussions, much less evidence-based guidance, of how to evaluate people who request assisted dying because of prolonged grief, autism, schizophrenia or personality disorders are lacking.

How about a discussion of what is lacking in human societies that creates demand for assisted dying by the "abnormal" because of a "compromised ability to cope with adversity"?

The issue of assisted dying for the mentally ill has been one that has been concerning me since the Carter ruling came into law.
There was a brief period before C-14 passed when a depressed person could seek euthanasia in Canada. Since then I having been thinking about the value/worth of my life. I have tried just about every trick I know, but I am not successful. I feel I am a burden to society and to my family. Now, I can no longer seek assisted dying for depression. The House nixed that. But it's something to think about.

Androbot, sometimes when I read what you write, I think the way you think makes you attractive. The insanity of the materialistic NT world I have noticed too.

Thank you Aniihya

...>I have posted a big f****n' tantrum about this .
SOC , that's great ., but I have a mediocre diploma already . I just want to get my paperwork out of bondage/captivity .
So I can try to go from there .
I have a mediocre HS diploma already ~ I just want access to it .
Why can't I ???

...BUT I WENT TO (graduated from) STANDARD HIGH SCHOOL ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ACCEPT what Greeley is doing , and spend many months ~ or years ~ trying to follow a modern-day HS curriculum(Sp??) , which I am DECADES out of date on ???
I'm not belittling anybody who got a GED for the standard reason of " I didn't get to do it at the proper time " , believe me . In fact , my getting an HS diploma was , sort of , half-assed , I didn't REALLY take a lot of the standard courses (at least full-through) , I was sent to a " special " non-graded school (Guess why .) for much of my HS years...

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Renal kidney failure, congestive heart failure, COPD. Can't really get up from a floor position unhelped anymore:-(.
One of the walking wounded ~ SMASHED DOWN by life and age, now prevented from even expressing myself! SOB.
" Oh, no! First you have to PROVE you deserve to go away to college! " ~ My mother, 1978 (the heyday of Andy Gibb and Player). I would still like to go.
My life destroyed by Thorazine and Mellaril - and rape - and the Psychiatric/Industrial Complex. SOB:-(! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !!

I agree.

Empathy is limited to the "normal" ones.
Compassion is limited to the "normal" ones.
Respect for other persons is limited to the "normal" ones. In hyper-competitive societies it is further withheld from anyone who runs out of luck. Being unlucky becomes a form of abnormal. Being part of a social delusion becomes a prerequisite for qualifying as "normal".
Appreciation of diversity is limited to a very narrow comfort zone in communal societies. Hyper-competitive societies pride themselves of being tolerant. But tolerance is largely reserved to social gradients, such that differences in social status are explained and celebrated as the motor of "progress", and all other differences are seen as a distraction from "progress".
Self-determination is limited to those who can afford it.

These are the implicit rules of the human social game. These rules would need to be made explicit, and be subjected to critical discussion in public, ideally starting in primary schools, before children are fully "socialised" (indoctrinated).

JBW, do you mean that if all these social rules were made explicit early in life, they would be more open to criticism? Not sure if that's what you meant to say, but it does make sense.

Yes, I think that simply making these rules explicit would open some people's eyes.

But mainstream societies may not be honest enough to ever publicly admit that these are the rules of the social game. After all, the official rules are all about giving everyone a "fair go".

Making the unwritten rules explicit would make the circular reasoning obvious for everyone. Any bright 12-year old would latch onto the inconsistencies and start asking questions. For example: Why does life have to be a social game? It's a game that no one ever explicitly signed up for. People are assumed to be social gamers by birth.

The hidden catch lies in the exclusive definition of "everyone".