Eye expression test by Simon Baron Cohen

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24 Feb 2010, 5:23 pm

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I scored 28...I thought I was a genius until I saw that several other aspie got the same.

Did you guys figure them out through process of elimination . I couldn't tell it was the emotion I ended up putting but I could tell that it wasn't one of the more obvious ones..like anger or disappointment. I know many expressions from watching movie and TV...I seldom look at peoples faces in real life and I think that is the real reasn that they think aspies can't "read" NVC.

It's not that we can't but that we can't if we are affraid to look at people or there are to many other things to process....like their words, other people talking, the TV is on and some one expects an answer on a question I barley heard because of auditory processing disorder...

This for most of them, I couldn't tell instantly, but I could eliminate the other answers on most of them, got 27 that way.

I can tell that it isn't a good gauge in my case though, because I felt like many of the answers were not in the options given, and just tried to fit the one that looked least wrong.

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24 Feb 2010, 7:29 pm

Your score: 19
A typical score is in the range 22-30. If you scored over 30,
you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions
around their eyes. A score under 22 indicates you find this quite difficult. The correct answers for the ones you missed are:
2: upset
12: sceptical
13: anticipating
14: accusing
17: doubtful
18: decisive
19: tentative
20: friendly
21: fantasizing
22: preoccupied
23: defiant
24: pensive
27: cautious
29: reflective
30: flirtatious
31: confident
32: serious

I definitely knew I missed some because I couldn't find a good answer many times, especially the negative emotions. Looking at the results, I was 100% correct on the positive emotions but practically blind on the negative emotions. It figures though, I never know that I pissed someone off until it's way too late.

AND I'm supposed to be an NT.

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24 Feb 2010, 7:33 pm

this is the one I did a couple years ago and I am still irked about it. I think I got like a 12 or something. Personally I think it defies logic and there is something fixed about it. What am I missing.

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24 Feb 2010, 8:11 pm

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Am I the only one who has low note? My score is 16 :lol:

No, I got 17. I thought I might have done a little better really

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24 Feb 2010, 9:00 pm

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Your score: 9
A typical score is in the range 22-30. If you scored over 30,
you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions
around their eyes. A score under 22 indicates you find this quite difficult.

I can honestly say I didn't know any of them. The ones I did get right we're complete guesses.

Can people actually do this? If you we're given the whole head and body, it would be much easier to pick up on the body language. But just the eyes? I doubt anyone can do this accurately.

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24 Feb 2010, 9:03 pm

Francis wrote:

Can people actually do this? If you we're given the whole head and body, it would be much easier to pick up on the body language. But just the eyes? I doubt anyone can do this accurately.

Apparently, the eyes are supposed to be windows to the soul.
Which makes sense, because they are in front of your brain, but they do not project emotion and anyone that makes assumptions about people's emotions based on what their eyes look like is living a lie.

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25 Feb 2010, 2:25 am

My girlfriend has amazingly adept social skills, I've watched her with people, she's wonderful at that stuff.

She said the lack of the mouth/head angle/posture threw her off, and the fact that he tilted the women eyes towards "desire" because he desired them surely lowered her score as well.

She got 23, there's no way I'm better at reading people than her, though I'm lightyears ahead in test taking ability.

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25 Feb 2010, 4:13 am

I recently took this test with my psychologist. Scored reasonably. It's a pretty flawed test, really, since the results are comparritive - i.e. you compare results to cross-sections of society that DON'T have AS and cross-sections that do and see where you fall. There isn't much of a difference between the two, really, when I was presented with the stats.

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25 Feb 2010, 4:38 am

Your score: 20
A typical score is in the range 22-30. If you scored over 30,
you are very accurate at decoding a person's facial expressions
around their eyes. A score under 22 indicates you find this quite difficult.
The correct answers for the ones you missed are:
1: playful
3: desire
10: cautious
11: regretful
12: sceptical
17: doubtful
19: tentative
21: fantasizing
23: defiant
24: pensive
25: interested
28: interested
31: confident
34: distrustful
35: nervous
36: suspicious

I missed several out. Lots of the words I don't actually know the meaning of.

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25 Feb 2010, 5:11 am

Besides, with only four or five options to choose from, a small amount of natural ability can be compounded by lucky guesses.

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25 Feb 2010, 5:32 am

I got 27. Not bad at all. Thought I'd do worse.

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25 Feb 2010, 8:28 am

ursaminor wrote:

This.

That test - it is a test of how much you know about WHAT PEOPLE USUALLY ASSUME when they see eyes.

So if might test something useful - but not anything about being able to detect real emotion in a pair of eyes. Maybe it tests our ability to conform to a popular illusion.

(edited because I got the quote tags wrong.)

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26 Feb 2010, 9:21 am

peterd wrote:

Besides, with only four or five options to choose from, a small amount of natural ability can be compounded by lucky guesses.

That would be the only explanation I can think of for my SHOCKING score of 32. Almost all of my answers were total guesses, because the emotion I thought a given pair of eyes showed wasn't one of the four choices. I'd see a "friendly" pair of eyes, and then the choices would be "embarrassed, sad, controlling, or cautious," or something like that.

Besides, as other posters have mentioned, it is one thing to look at photos on the computer in an isolated, quiet setting, and quite another to try to read eyes in a busy real-life situation. A million other things are happening at once, and it's incredibly hard to look at eyes in the first place.

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27 Feb 2010, 9:51 am

Has anyone noticed how some of the male eyes in the pictures have real expressions but the women's are just flat? Some of the male ones looked like they had real character behind them. The women's were 2-dimensional. I'm not surprised. I think that in real life women are not expected to be expressive. Why should they when what they think and feel doesn't matter anyway - just what they look like!

Lines and creases around the eyes are what I look at for expressions. Those women had none. Probably because for a woman to have creases is deemed to be ugly and wrong. But that is what expressions are all about to me.

Maybe that's a reason why I find men easier to read! I haven't thought about that before.

I got the women's expressions "correct" by following this strategy:

If there's a "sexy" answer to choose from, pick that (on the basis that a man made the test and he expects you to look at a woman and think sex)

If not then pick the one that is not really an expression - e.g. choose "preoccupied" over "angry" (or whatever the other choice was) because anger is an expression and these women have none.

A test that can be answered correctly by following that strategy is NOT a test of your ability to read emotion in the eyes.

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27 Feb 2010, 10:04 am

I do not think women are supposed to have flat expressions.
Those women had makeup on around their eyes, you could not see any creases.
Sometimes they tilted their faces.

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