I believe that Autism Is 100% Genetic!

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Pandd, my position is that only a genetic autism can truly be called autism. I acknowledge the possibility I may be wrong, but evidence thusfar indicates just that - the presence of autism in families following the manifest patterns it does makes that possibility seem most likely.
To be honest, however, on the genetic predispsition to environmental factors issue, I have only researched the mercury effects. Suffice to say; quantities of mercury in the alleged "evil corporate autism vaccines" is insufficient to cause any harm to neurological structures, as mercury is mostly absorbed into tissue in any case. I think it might be fair to say I've something of a bias against the possibility of environmental causes - for both personal reasons, my own memories of prior to the ages in which environmental factors have been claimed to "cause" autism, and for professional reasons - the continual lack of solid evidence to support the claims. I lean strongly towards the 100% genetic (which in itself is a textual fallacy, of sorts) simply because most evidence points in that direction thusfar. Several chromosomes, whilst not having been certainly identified, have at least begun to show indications of being part of a generic cause for autism. I'm not particularly good at articulating my thoughts, but I think I didn't lose too much here in the jump from my mind to text.. Ah, well, poor communication skills...
Is that the sort of answer you were looking for?


Oh, and, MemberSix, quit trolling, please, and go pretend you have something resembling a life.

I know that autism is genetic but there are also certain predispositions that some autistic people have that causes them to react to certain foods and chemicals more so than the regular person. It is a fact that autistics are more likely to have asthma and allergic reactions. Also the diet connection cannot be ignored. This proves that there is a difference between autistic people and normal people when it comes to physical reactions to the environment.

Most of the people on my fathers side show signs of having asperger's syndrome although no one has been diagnosed because they can function in life without assistance. I'd say that 8 out of 10 of his brothers and sisters have asperger's and probably my grandmother has it too. However, none of them were vaccinated until they had to go to school and some not at all. Now pediatricians give the first shot the day after the baby is born. That might cause a problem. My niece is the first person in our family's history who shows extreme behavioral differences. Asperger's has probably been around for a long time but this new thing with kids only wanting to eat ketchup and rewinding videos over and over, or not being able to talk is a new problem. Also, the food was different back in the 60's. Now, the food contains so many artificial ingredients.
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Evolution has been taking place for a long time so I do believe our brains will continue to evolve as they have in the past. Let's use our brains and think for ourselves and don't form opinions on what THEY say or can prove in a laboratory setting.

Trying to prove that chemicals cause autism is like trying to prove Roses cause people to sneeze.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W-gba0GPwU[/youtube]

Last edited by Magnus on 27 Aug 2008, 5:08 am, edited 1 time in total.

I completly agree Magnus, and I think if you have autism/asperges the way you are brought up or the kind of envirment you are in affects how that asperges/autism grows with you.

But I guess there will still be battle lines between people with a different opinion to this...

I'm not trolling.

I'm letting people know about the extent of your knowledge of genetics.

People should ALSO know that they face the possibility of being accused of things like paedophilia (like AspiArtist was) if they express a different point of view from your own.
Or worse still, shine a light on your claim to be a professional geneticist.

Magnus, I don't really disagree with you, but I think I should correct you on one point - the more extreme autistic variations, eating only ketchup and rewinding tapes as you said, are no new thing. At least, not the behavioral types - it would have been a bit tricky to rewind a VHS in 1927! However; this instances were simply not documented, put down to poor behaviour, or assosciated with demonic possesion or insanity. I've had a number of relatives given lobitomies for just those reasons around such times.

Yeah, troll, because you know me so well from two little forum threads! Hey, I know, you can get a job as a detective! That way you can make a career out of being wrong about people.
Where does your knowledge of genetics come from, eh? How do you have so much knowledge? Wassat? Wikipedia! Gasp! I never have to work again, as now a little website apparently holds all knowledge!
As far as a 48 year old repeatedly mentioning school kids; I stand by my statement there.

Now, rack off, you white trash, uneducated, layman pissant curebie psycho! Mind your own business, and quit responding to my post with insults, because as I have demonstrated here, I give as good as I get. Go. Annoy. Somebody. ELSE, you stupid troll!! !

You know what crosses my mind ?

The last thing you sound like is a scientist of any sort.

Really? Just how many scientists do you intimately know?
Now. Be. Quiet

Well, as a matter of fact, a lot.
I work for GSK.

they recently proved that the main cause was genetic. we arent sure if envirmental effects can cause too. but nuerologists have found mutated chromosomes in the autistic children they found. same ones. they think it may be the main cause. of course this news isnt wide spread cause the organization known as autism speaks wants to keep u ignorant.

No you don't, you're a high school student.

So what? You're a pharmacist, then?
Ha! You're genetics b***h! Try a real scientific profession, junior-league pissant!
You're many notches down, are assosciated with pharm "scientists", held as a joke by the rest of us, and you, pissant, try to insult me?! Haha! You're a non-contributor to the scientific community! You're a joke, mate!
GSK, yeah, great... Drugs, money, and negative media attention! Have fun with that, junior-league!

I'd LOVE to be a high school student, university student ... hell, any kinda student.

My case of autism is as classic as it gets and there's a fairly good chance in my case that the cause was not genetic. Some of my other family members have the characteristics seen so pervasively around here and if that's autism and it's genetic, I would agree.

As for Ishmael, I think you're a jerk and a clown and unlikely any variant of the autism spectrum.

So you have seen your family have these symptoms but you don't think its genetic? Thats kind of looney...