Aspergers and above average IQ

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I am 16 and have an IQ of 184, I was diagnosed with AS a couple weeks ago (not because it went unnoticed - multiple therapists and teachers suspected it and told my parents - but because my mother refuses to accept it). I'm not sure if there is any correlation between IQ and AS but it may help mask the symptoms, I know how to act "normal" but at the root of it I find other peoples actions and aversions to my own illogical.

This is also my first post, I hope I did it right.

Dang, beat me. I've only done one real one and i scored 168. (though i've scored higher on crappy internet tests, no more than 170's >.<)

IQ points are irrelevant.

There are several reasons for this:
1. IQ tests are designed for NT persons and normal NT perceptions. They are not fully compatible with people with ASD.
2. IQ tests are not absolutely accurate. They are based on a current understanding of what it means to be "intelligent". The criteria are subjective and could change at any time. You could have a poor result on the test and still be fairly smart in daily life (or vice versa).
3. You can't really measure something as complex as the human mind in numbers. Especially not in a single number. That's simply stupid.

I agree with this. I've noticed that my performance on almost any task for the first time is really poor. But then a little bit of practice makes a huge difference. I went from 700-900 (can't remember exactly, though it was "below average") to 1510 on the old SAT (=34 on the ACT). Yes. Really.

I scored a little above average on the IQ test for my diagnosis (with mind-blowing subtests scatter), and the report said, "is likely to significantly underperform" even this average IQ academically. Um. Right. Lol. I did a few puzzles on my phone. Big instant improvement. Basically, IQ tests are crap, if they purport to measure innate ability. If they purport to measure current ability, then I'd say they are accurate.

I think I have dyspraxia so figuring out how to do a new thing on the fly is impossible for me. That involves IQ subtests or standardized tests like the SAT I've never seen before, but once I get some familiarity and can focus only on the mental exercise itself, then things are markedly different. I don't know if this is common for those on the spectrum or not.

I'm going by what my psychologist says, and in general Aspies have high IQs. I have been tested and I also have a high IQ.

The defense of a high IQ really isn't a good one, IQ is useless without the application to drive it. Being really smart is useless if you don't do anything with it.

Usually Aspies that use these sayings are newly diagnosed, and need to feel good about themselves.

Anyone below a normal IQ by cannot be diagnosed with Asperger's

I took two IQ tests when I was in school but I don't remember what the exact score (down to numbers) but I was above average.
I'm 31, now in school for a second bachelor's and my GPA is 3.9.
I speak two languages fluently, and know a little Italian.
I suppose that explains the level of my intelligence is.

My IQ is almost as high as my catatar's. My mother wants me to be a cat, not a bunny, because she thinks that cats are smarter than bunnies. I like to lick lollipops and rub them all over my face.

First IQ test I had done by a psychologist when I was 14. It came back at 125. Above average, I guess.

Second IQ test I had I was 21 and I on a massive quantity of antipsychotic medications that were severely affecting my cognitive functioning. I could barely do anything, my short-term memory was shot. I'd been having seizures for 7 years, but the antipsychotics had made the seizures much more frequent and I was in a really bad mental space. Severe anxiety and depression, constant preoccupation. Surprisingly, I scored 125 again. I'd like to think that now I'm off the psychotropic drugs, I'd do better if they tested me again, but they've put me on anti-convulsants now, and they're affecting my cognitive functioning in other ways. This medication business is a no-win situation. (Interestingly, I was put on the antipsychotic medication, thus exacerbating the seizures, because they thought the seizures were psychological in nature. All I can say is some doctors are utterly useless.)

I, too, have heard that people with Asperger's often have an above average IQ. Doesn't mean we're any better in social situations. Just because we're technically smarter doesn't mean we can always apply it where we need it.

I actually had my IQ tested by MENSA when I was fifteen or sixteen. I score 159. My Sister, who is NT, came out as 138.

I remember taking an IQ test when I was about 8 years old and I scored 113. I have had this interest in nuclear science since I was 9 however and I'm currently 19 and I'm taking my first doctoral level class in plasma physics. I personally believe that IQ tests are a fairly invalid measure of intelligence in that the nature of intelligence is being restrained to a few concepts that are approved by our society and the dominant culture. I also learned that my parents had suspected that I was dyslexic and I was recently diagnosed with ADHD. I was never diagnosed with aspergers though. My ability however is tinkering, I have been able to build plasma sources out of propane bottles as well as sight glasses. Interestingly enough in addition to aspergers *which I believe helps me facilitate connections to seemingly remote subjects by looking at underlying trends which are often ignored by the great majority of the population" I have also been diagnosed as having bi-polar disorder.

The diagnostic criteria for Aspergers is an IQ above 70. Statistically by excluding people on the lower end of a scale for Asperger diagnosis the average intelligence of Aspies will be above the average of the general population. Psychologists acting on the stereotype that only people with above average intelligence can have aspergers may not diagnose people with average intelligence. People with average intelligence and all the problems of aspergers are probably less likely to have the wherewithal and the means to get to a specialist then those with above average intelligence.

Last edited by ASPartOfMe on 23 Feb 2014, 3:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The people that measured my I.Q. (I had it tested when I had my meltdown a year ago) wouldn't tell it to me because they didn't think it would help me with my meltdown issues. When I persisted, they told me it was the highest they ever recorded over the 25 years their organization has been in existence. Moreover, this institution was established to do psychological assessments and cognitive diagnostics for non-intellectually challenged people. Hmmm. I guess that explains why I was doing calculus when I was 3 months old, to figure the rate of change in production of my mother's breast milk.

Actually, if I'm really that smart (and if all of you are that smart), then let's face it: the world is in big trouble. Because I trip over coffee tables and forget why I went from point A to point B.

Meanwhile, you have Joe Biden in the Vice Presidency, John Boehner as Speaker of the House, Representative Sheila Jackson Lee who thinks the astronauts planted a flag on Mars, and a Congress that has never actually read through Obamacare.

My high I.Q. says we're doomed.

And that is a very high I.Q. I hope you will major in nuclear physics to invent a bomb that will destroy only the bad people. When you do, call me, and I'll push the button.

True. Some diagnostic centers would disagree (or would have disagreed in the past before DSM 5 came out) due to the well-known diagnostic confuse within the autism spectrum, the very reason it has been merged into a single ASD diagnosis. Nevertheless, the majority of them would have specified the above IQ limit for an AS diagnosis (>70). Below that they had two options: autism and PDD-NOS (apart from fragile-X, Rett's syndrome, and other rare diagnoses).

The diagnostic criteria of Asperger's in the DSM-IV says:



Actually, I happen to know two persons IRL with AS diagnosis with IQs (as measured by a diagnostic center) only slightly above 70, and here I am with an IQ score in the superior range and yet my diagnosis is the marginally known PDD-NOS.

Intelligence is much more than IQ scores. Even if we included EQ as measured by scientifically approved tests - and I can tell by experience how emulating all those complex functions in everyday life taxes my ability to function - we'd very likely miss out on identifying brain powers, let alone measuring them.

(I don't like IQ elitism, anyway.)

New member here (NT, or so I'm told)...arrived @ this site in the course of research/info gathering. I'm going to start hanging out here more - you guys are hysterical - seriously. I almost experienced terminal bladder malfunction after reading a couple of these posts (Firebird's and the oooOOOooooOOOOoooo guy, among others). Some of you missed your calling - you should put pen to page, don the sunglasses, and embark on the standup comedy circuits - and that is sincerely meant . I've laughed more in the last 20 min than I can remember...I look forward to making new friends here! Peace out & best wishes for a great week for all...just call me 'Lefty'