Any guys here annoyed by the macho expectation?

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Many people (male and female) are idiots or have unrealistic expectations about "Mr Right".

If you are a good person and willing to say and mean "For better or for worse, in sickness and in health till death do us part" and your partner is of the same view then you will have a good life.

Life can be pretty hard but if you have a friend and lover who will stay with you through good times and bad then you will make it.

It's really extreme in rural Kentucky. One time I went fishing with some of white trash relatives when I was 12 years old. When I got scared that they were wading in 5 feet of water to get to climb atop a huge rock to fish from they started verbally assaulting me. They then tried to throw me from the rock into the 10 feet deep section of the Cumberland River, I had to fight they off like a wild animal just to survive.

It's surprising Kentucky has the lowest White life expectancy in the US - men here would rather die proving their man hood (by such feats as jumping off 50 cliffs into lakes or racing cars on highways) than live being stigmatized as a sissy.

I don't mind... I like nachos.

Nordic

I am pretty rugged and have a little bit of daredevil in me. What I am not is higly competitive. Most people seem to be constantly competiting each other. I struggle with this. I think of people as my equal and treat them like that. There must be two ways to make an impression on someone: Either you make yourself look better in the eyes of the person you are trying to impress, or you make your competitors look worse. I think that is where a lot of macho behavior comes from. I think most of it is empty bravado.

This all seems based off of a stereotypical media archetype to me. I haven't seen many situations where 'macho' is expected, I just hear people complain if they think someone else is acting too 'macho'.

Nah, I don't mind the expectation. I'm hardly Sylvester Stallone or anything, but I'm manly enough

I hate the expectation of mach-oism.

I'm a big guy but I'm very graceful when I want to be and often move in a femine way.

Why? Because it's easier and less taxing. Mroe logical and keeps my body loose in case I need to move fast.

I would rather be thin and look more feminine than a big hulking guy. Why? Because I prefer to be lithe and able to move quickly/ dodge.

I´m a woman, and I´m quite irritated by this male pressure to be "macho". It´s a huge turnoff for me, actually.

I´m also irritated by the common expectations for women to be "women". I´m tired of being told that something I did was not "womanly" enough; or of people just generally being thrown by me, as I don´t fall into a particular "slot", so they don´t quite know what to make of me. Well, I guess I should just be amused by that.

I hate macho-ism, and the resulting expectations on us males from girls/women. The next time i'll go out (which happens so rarely nowdays) and a girl asks "can you buy me a beer?" i'm going to be blunt and ask her "That depends, do you do it doggy style?".

The only girls/women i respect are the women that have no expectations upon me, girls who expect me to be some sort of knight in shining armour that are ready to die for them can take their "equality" and f--k off. If they really want equality, they better start thinking about what the concept really means. They cant just take all the good pieces out of the "equality chocolate box" and leave the crappy ones for us males.

Oh, and i had a moped. My father got one for me (in pieces for me to assemble) around the time when i was 15. I never got the point why i should have one. A friend asked me if he could trade it for one that he had built himself, and i said "sure". So i then had a factory built moped... that stood around in the garage, collecting dust.

Practically 90% of the people I know look down on me for not being "macho". I hate cars, sports (especially football), slu*ty women, and having to prove my strength and/or courage by doing some Jackass stunt. When I express this loathing, I either get people walking away from me, or responses like "What kind of man doesn't like football/trucks/Paris Hilton?" or "Your not a man, your a boy!" Also, when something upsets me, I usually cry. This either pisses off all the "macho" men, or I become a laughing stock to everyone. I can't help expressing my sadness, and I feel that I shouldn't have to hold back my true emotions just so I could fit in with the kind of people that I HATE!! !! I just hope I can find more people that either are like me, or are able to accept me for who I am without giving me bull****.

I'm a woman. I don't get why guys need to do daredevil stuff and crap like that. But being a real man is about like what someone else already said...taking responsibility. I don't care if a guy cries unless it's really immature, like crying because he doesn't know how to handle a situation. My father was a marine, and I never saw him cry, but my mom said he cried all the time like everytime a date stood me up or something. Now that is manly to cry because you feel bad for your kids.

I don't expect a guy to buy me a drink, but I shouldn't be buying everything all the time for both of us. I do find myself attracted to men who are strong, disciplined, on top of their game. I do expect men to have a level of manliness like mentioned (strong, disciplined, on top of their game), not because they are of a male gender, but because they are grown. I'm sorry, but 30 going on 15 doesn't constitute a man.

As far as gender roles, I find myself often in a world where I'm not girly because I'm so domineering. But I do believe that I am a woman, I am proud of it, and with my gender comes some roles. Beauty is something I should always attempt to achieve, and not fake beauty. Healthy, natural beauty inside and out. Being a lady is important too. In addition, motherhood brings on many gender roles. I don't think I should be the only one cooking and cleaning. But, I do believe the role of a woman in parenthood is to nurture, that's why we have boobs (still can't figure out why men have nipples though, even male animals have them, and I still stick the story that it's only because they were made in a woman's image....hahaha, no I don't seriously believe that). I do believe in taking pride in who you are, and that sometimes means incorporating the natural nature of your gender (not society's belief on the subject).

As far as equality, no you guys still should open doors for us, not out of gender roles, but out of respect or because you like us. Not just girls but all people. I always try to hold a door open for strangers if I'm going in one at the same time as someone else. It's just about being polite. And a lot of the other stuff people throw into the equality deal is bs. Equality is about all of us being allowed to work and vote and things like that. As much as it seems like equality is happening...no. Most men never take me seriously unless it's black and white online. Heaven forbid a woman be beautiful and intelligent. Some of us are both Daphney and Velma. Women in male oriented fields only seem to succeed when they look like a dude, generally speaking. Pretty girls always get picked on in union jobs and the military (except for Korean chics, nobody messes with them and they are beautiful). Military is a big deal, and I don't think women should be in combat zones with men not because women can't handle it, no we kill the enemy pretty good (and the most aggressive marines are female, fyi), no but men have a hard time with it. Gender role or not, it's first off really mean to take a guy away from his wife for years at a time and force him to cohabitate with other females. Also, I don't want to untrain men into thinking that they shouldn't love and protect the women in their lives, and I think it's too emotionally difficult for them to see something bad happen to a female, especially if she reminds him of his wife, mother, child, sister, etc. But that's just my opinion, and I have yet to meet any man with military experience who doesn't get what I'm saying there.

I'm male. I prefer to take the best parts of each gender and use them in my own way. I don't care what people think.

Attactive androgyny is what I'd like. Something wear I can dress like I'm a guy and girls will feel attracted to me, before I change my clothes and I'm an attractive chick. It's possible, just very difficult. I'd probably be clasified as a 'male lesbien' if someoen did that test.

I hate it. People think I'm gay because I don't do all of the things that guys are supposed to do.

^^ Aye! And I'm full Scottish. Kilts are quite breezy! You lads don't know what you're missin'.