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30 Jun 2009, 10:36 am

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dammit it doesnt do eights on here!



I think I missed the swine flu joke...


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30 Jun 2009, 12:28 pm

I absolutely loved the movie. I too have been watching Shia LaBeouf since he was on Even Stevens and I also saw him in 'holes'. He's a natural actor! I loved Bumblebee and I thought that the jokes were hilarious. Heck, I actually near got ate by the seat in the cinema because I fell back laughing at Sam's mom!


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30 Jun 2009, 2:06 pm

It was a good movie, IMHO. I saw it 4 times already: First the midnight showing, second Friday, third Sunday after my graduation party and fourth last night.

There are somethings that could of been changed or omitted, but it still was a good movie. :D



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30 Jun 2009, 2:22 pm

I enjoyed the movie. I don't know if I would see it again, but it was entertaining to watch.

Regarding Megan Fox, there were a couple of times she came on screen that drew positive responses from some of the females in our theater audience. Apparently, she has reached a level that even women think she is hot. I did find it distracting that everytime she was running in the movie she was holding someone's hand. Everyone else was running for their lives, but she had to hold someone's hand in order to get away.



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30 Jun 2009, 3:45 pm

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I thought it was really bad... and I say that as someone who really, really like the first one.

Seconded.

It was nothing but one cliche after another. Totally mindless and ridiculously obvious in its 'jokes'.. I mean come on.. dogs humping was amusing the first time but not the second, third, or RC truck time. The characters were completely shallow, they didn't even introduce some of the new autobots and they never showed Arcee's robot form. And, no, I was not expecting too much. Sure its all about big robots fighting but .. I don't know about any one else here but I can't even see a damn thing! They move much too fast. I also agree that the battle between The Fallen and Optimus was way too anticlimactic. Also, Devastator died awful easy as well. He kind of just fell apart into his various component robots which should not be a death-blow because each component is an entity of its own.

And don't even get me started on the 'romance.' :roll: Again, nothing but a giant cliche-fest.

There are way more problems in this movie than that but those are some that come to mind off the top of my head.



By the way, this should be in Random.



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30 Jun 2009, 6:36 pm

The movie was fun, but I couldn't enjoy it. I think it's great, the way CG animation can create such intricately-detailed characters, but when they're all moving all over the place, like in the fight scenes, you can't follow along because there's too many things to look at! I was also a bit offended at the gratuitous robo-balls joke. There were little kids in the theatre, and some of the material was clearly not meant for little kids. Plus, Starscream was BUTT-UGLY, and he got almost no lines. I haven't seen the first movie yet; was that the case in that one, too?



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30 Jun 2009, 8:01 pm

I loved the megatron and Starscream domestic lol i know it is distasteful but I was laughing in my head at that



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26 Jul 2009, 1:21 am

God awful movie



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26 Jul 2009, 2:13 am

I thought the movie was good at first, but after a few seconds of thinking I said to myself, "What am I thinking?" Goodness, don't know where to start.

1) fight scene dragged on way too long when it came to Sam and Megan Fox going to Prime. Seriously, did it need to be that long just to show them fighting when in fact you could show Sam and them getting to Prime in, like what, ten minutes?

2) Gangsta ghetto talking robots--talk about racism! Not all black people are thugs, have grills on their teeth, talk ghetto, and act like they're uneducated and fight each other over every little thing. I and some friends are living proofs of that.

3) Unneccessary humor--Sorry, but when you put too much humor in a movie it makes it unrealistic, especially with the humping and sexual jokes such as the roboballs. The part where the RC humping Megan's leg--doesn't need to be there. They're running for their lives, so why would they use humor in that. And the midget and mom on marijuana? Most likely used for comic relief. Like they were trying to please the action people but at the same time trying to please the comedic people. Choose one already and stick with it.

4) The Fallen just appeared out of nowhere in the end and was beaten in two minutes despite Optimus's transformation. Even though Megatron's the main series antagonist, the Fallen was this movie's antagonist, so the fight should go to him. I was saying to myself, "Is that all?" Would it kill them to make a LOTR length movie or, better, take out some of the fight scenes and put the Fallen in it. Or they could've made it where the fallen survived and Megatron and Starscream escapes with only the weapon on the pyramid destroyed (that's what the Decepticons main objective, right: to use the weapon to suck the energy from the sun?) If he could just appeared out of nowhere then he should've used it to defeat all the autobots since only a Prime can defeat him. Just used as a plot device.

5) Devastator--okay, how come a big robot comprised of five smaller robots get shot by a little beam and destroyed as a whole when in fact the Constructicons are each an entity by themselves? Devastator just seemed to be used just as a plot device to me cause he could've killed everyone and be a useful character, but instead--phswww!--dead in an instant.

6) Guy who tags along with you but does nothing like a bard--okay, would it kill you to have this guy do something other than to taze himself in the balls or other comic relief? Seriously, I'm tired of these characters who appear just for comedy in serious movies. If I wanted that I would've watched Spaceballs. They just don't advance the plot and need to be killed off.

7) Bad characters killed off yet no good characters killed--okay, this is a movie of action, yes? Having one side winning without any casualties is just plain unrealistic and too lazy a plot device. It's like the first movie (though Jazz died, I don't count one character killed over a whole bunch of bad guys killed a good movie.) And besides, no humans died. Well, not the main ones anyways.

8: Romance--nuff said.

It seems like they got the Paolini Syndrome: with the success they had with the first movie, they wanted to please everyone and try too hard to make the second movie without any quality whatsoever so they can make a quick buck. In my opinion, this movies a flop; the first one was better, yet it was still cliche.:roll:



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26 Jul 2009, 12:25 pm

Batz wrote:
2) Gangsta ghetto talking robots--talk about racism! Not all black people are thugs, have grills on their teeth, talk ghetto, and act like they're uneducated and fight each other over every little thing. I and some friends are living proofs of that.


See I don't understand why people automatically jump to the 'not all black people...' why would anyone assume that those characters are meant to represent all black people??? In the first movie, as well as this one, there was a robot who had chosen to represent himself with a black voice and was not an uneducated thug. There's also the black army guy who is not ghetto.

Why do the twins have to be singled out? Because they portray a negative aspect of a particular culture and you're only allowed to show the flattering parts? How is it racism if the movie contains several intelligent black characters and several unintelligent ones? That doesn't seem like racial profiling to me. One might argue that having only intelligent black characters is racism, albeit a flattering form.

If they were portrayed as unintelligent white hicks there would be much less controversy.




For the record, I didn't like the twins and they were definately not a positive addition to the movie. I am just attempting to make a point with the above.



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26 Jul 2009, 3:35 pm

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How is it racism if the movie contains several intelligent black characters and several unintelligent ones? That doesn't seem like racial profiling to me. One might argue that having only intelligent black characters is racism, albeit a flattering form.


It's not racist to have ROBOTS that speak in a certain way. I think that is going too far down the PC line. Besides, why is it that according to the PC brigade only 'intelligent' black people can be shown? They show so many white people who are dumb, stupid or just complete a-holes, why should it matter what colour they are? I agree that the fight scenes were too long and the camera angles did make me nearly throw up at one point. I'm waiting to see the DVD version on my smaller plasma screen to see if it is any less nauseating!


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26 Jul 2009, 9:07 pm

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How is it racism if the movie contains several intelligent black characters and several unintelligent ones? That doesn't seem like racial profiling to me. One might argue that having only intelligent black characters is racism, albeit a flattering form.


It's not racist to have ROBOTS that speak in a certain way. I think that is going too far down the PC line. Besides, why is it that according to the PC brigade only 'intelligent' black people can be shown? They show so many white people who are dumb, stupid or just complete a-holes, why should it matter what colour they are? I agree that the fight scenes were too long and the camera angles did make me nearly throw up at one point. I'm waiting to see the DVD version on my smaller plasma screen to see if it is any less nauseating!


I'm saying they were stereotyped in the movies, and besides, I'm tired of seeing the only major roles black people play as are the gangstas and the guys with the brawns or in the military most of the time. Sure the black guy was intelligent, but he was in the military. To me that's a stereotype since it implies the only parts black people can play are the backup or tough guy. And I know they're white people who are dumb, stupid, or complete buttholes cause I see them in movies as well as smart white people people. Maybe you don't see it (and I'm not saying this because you might not be black), but to me, when I see a stereotype, it just tells me the media doesn't get as diverse as it should. That's like Total Drama Island and Total Drama Action (hate those shows.) When I just see people protrayed as the nerd or the ghetto girl or the brawny black dude it just makes me want to puke. Black people are as diverse as anyone else. Would it offend you if the media says that every sex offender is a white guy? They need to put black people in actual intelligent roles as high paid civilians or whatever Like in Hotel Rwanda (though that was a true story) or the Ernest Green Story.

Sorry if I'm wrong here, but the media just puts too much stereotyping on the black man to me. Though I see a few black people who deny the stereotype in movies these days, they seem to be scarce.



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27 Jul 2009, 10:58 pm

I watched Transformers Revenge of the Fallen because my oldest son wanted to see it. But, I am not a fan of Transformers. However, I respect people's opinions. We aren't all supposed to like the same things---that's why we have variety.

With that said, let me state my take on this movie---and please realize I am only having fun here---don't take this seriously:

I could have done this movie myself by throwing my kids' Transformer toys in the blender and videotaping it on high speed while banging on a cookie sheet every five seconds.


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29 Jul 2009, 6:05 am

I thought it was fantastic; WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than the first.

I know a lot of folks cried "racism" over Skids & Mudflap, but I found them more annoying than anything else.

I actually nearly started crying when the falled Autobots go to Sam, and tell him "the matrix isn't found, it's earned"

I also loved Jetfire; he is so cool.



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29 Jul 2009, 11:05 am

To Batz: Sorry, didn't want to quote the whole thing. Did you miss that the white guys were army guys too?? The majorty of sex offenders in the media ARE white, doesn't offend me in the least. I don't care for stereotypes either, personally, but sorry to say, but the stereotype exists for a reason. I personally cannot stand the 'ghetto' culture because it is so unintelligent and crude. Unfortunately, I have met more ghetto black people than not. There are plenty of black people who identify themselves as 'gangster' and talk 'ghetto.' Imo this is nowhere more displayed than in rap music and movies directed by and for black people. (eg Barbershop) There are also plenty of white and other people that identify with this culture as well. Stereotypes exist because people naturally conform to one group or another for an identity and sense of 'belonging,' that's just how humans work.

Personally, I don't even see why we need to divide things into 'white people' vrs 'black people.' The twins were portrayed as ghetto and unintelligent, true. Why does that make them black (plenty of white, brown, and other people also speak that way) and why does that mean they are intended to make a statement about all black people?Seems to me that you are more race-concious than I am. *shrug*



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29 Jul 2009, 12:11 pm

i enjoyed it , a bit less than the first one but still found it very entertaining (seen it twice in theatres) best robot fighting ever and megan fox basically sum up the movie. Almost teared up when Optimus Prime died lol..