introverted NT vs introverted aspie

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(shakes head)...... Autistic people have a monotone voice that doesn't carry any emotions, mine carries emotion.
This can be but not always the case
Autistic people don't feel physical pain when they see someone being hurt, i do.
is that a symtom it't not one i know
Autistic people have a cold brain, mine is hot.
cold... lacking in activity ? no.... in fact from my expierences the reverse is true
Autistic people feel an extra kind of pleasure when their skin is pressed,
extra sensitivity is an a symtom... but it is not a pleasure.....

Autistic people can withstand cold temperatures very well,
again some but not all
Autistic people can't make warm eye contact, i can.
{sigh)... again but not all
Autistic people have motor clumsiness, i own my body :
some but not all

Autistic people can't stand being touched, i don't mind it.
you just have contradicted your self....some not all

correct me if im wrong but I dout that.... also..... this is the tread for symtoms... http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt99992.html

Last edited by scorpileo on 12 Jul 2009, 3:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.

That's silly. NT introverts are not emos and goths. Well, they can be, but most aren't. Most are simply people who don't like to spend all their time socializing, prefer a few close friends, prefer small meet-ups to big parties.

You want a case of NT/AS siblings, both introverts? Take me and my sister. We're two years apart; she's younger. She occasionally goes to parties, but not all that often, and mostly when she's dragged to them by her friends, who tend to be drama/literature/music lovers, like my sister. She likes attending plays and musicals with her friends much better. She recently went to Germany for a study-abroad program and made friends there. Not a lot of friends; but they tend to be the sort you can depend on. She's always had her small circle, and she has private hobbies that don't involve other people. I think she prefers private gatherings at her apartment to going anywhere public. She also likes movies, folk music, and Renaissance faires.

Me, on the other hand: When I make friends, it's with decidedly eccentric people--not necessarily also autistic, but different, and almost always with interests in the field of science or sci-fi/fantasy literature/RPGs. Some of them have a diagnosis; others don't; but I wouldn't call any of them downright NT. I get together with people for explicitly social purposes no more than about once a month, if you don't count a support group (which is also once a month). I do most of my socializing on the Internet, where there are only words to worry about without the extra confusion of face-to-face. I like musicals, like my sister does; but I prefer to listen to the music on my MP3 player; now that I'm working (it's not permanent but it's a start), I don't have the energy to go anywhere with anybody. I think I've had company over one time during the two years I've been at my current address. I like Ren faires too, but I'm always very exhausted after I've gone to one, and I couldn't--as my sister could--spend the day at one and then the evening with friends.

You can see the difference. We're siblings, so similar DNA. We both like small, private groups; it's just that socializing is a lot more difficult and tiring for me, and when you stack it with the sensory problems, there's going to be less socializing for me even though we are rather similar in interests.

Whatever the hell that means? I don't think I've ever heard of physical pain in this context, NT or AS alike. If you get hit by a sledgehammer, that's physical pain. If you see someone else get hit by a sledgehammer, that's emotional pain. If you really feel physical pain when you see someone being hurt, I'd suggest seeing a doctor.

What, are you seriously suggesting that the temperature differs. Brain... freezing...

Yeah, if someone as much as touches me, I get a massive masturbation.

Where did you pull this from, your ass?

You don't seem to know much about AS at all, from what I've read here...

fernando's profile used to list his diagnosis status as Have Asperger's - Diagnosed but now he claims to have made himself neurotypical.

Stop ganging up on the guy. Since when was having an imperfect understanding of AS a character flaw?

Yes, I do that, but I still miss non-verbal cues, as Outlier said. And I'm also an extreme introvert, but I still like going out once in a while or having people for dinner - close friends I feel "safe" with.

marshall wrote:

That is the same for me also. I am very introverted.

an Imperfect understanding of AS isn't the problem.. it's the lack of research... that is the character flaw.

Are you idiot or what?

Not all autistic people fulfil your traits. Some have some of them, some have all.

So does mine, depending on my mood.I don't literally feel physical pain from witnessing someone being hurt but I imagine it and feel a psychological discomfort:?Not sure what you mean by this.Most NT's can get into cold water more easily than I can. I'm more sensitive to temperature on my skin than average.I can too, depending on my mood.I'm not good at sports but I'm decently sure footed and do fine with my handsIt might bother me slightly if someone touches me unexpectedly but I wouldn't say that I can't stand it.
I don't have a tendency to stay on routines. I can't make myself eat regular meals or go to bed the same time every day. I eat when I'm hungry and go to bed when I'm tired. I tend to order the same thing every time at certain restaurants but that's because trying new items is always a risk with me (I'm a picky eater).

Trust me i know what i'm talking about. In more understandable terms, i was refering to Temple Grandin's squezzing machine.


Where's the contradiction? i don't see.


Yes. Do not bother grabbing a thermometer to prove me wrong tho, my claims would remain.


From personal experience, real world observations and the SnowCake movie. But these days i rather refer to it as a "disturbance" because it's not always cold and not always heat, it's just a different way of reacting to temperature changes.



With three years of 12+ hours per day 7 days a week researching and a couple more years of part time research i feel confident no one here has more research under his belt than me. It's just that i now know so much that i sound insane.


I'm ahead of my time. I can see that could come accross as being an idiot. In fact that's the whole theme of my second book.

All these reaction posts were the beginning of me learning to word things right, i was approaching the point where i can properly define the symptoms in ways that the missdiagnosed would openly admit not having them. I've only gotten better since then.

UHHHHHH... O_o I highly doubt that. You spent 12+ hours a day every single day, for three years, researching AS, and those were the conclusions you came up with? I first heard about Aspergers Syndrome around half a year ago, but even I can see that most of your points are wrong...


Referring back to your original post:

Not always true. Out of all the aspies I know (around 5), only one has a monotonous voice.


I'm NT and I don't feel 'physical pain' when I see someone getting hurt. I highly doubt anyone else does either. I cringe soemtimes. So does my aspie boyfriend


That's just...stupid =="


Some autistic people are hyper-sensitive, but it doesn't have to mean pleasure. It usually comes in the form of pain or discomfort rather than pleasure.


Again, not always true. Internal body temperature does seem to be a bit messed up in some aspies, but that doesn't mean they can always withstand cold temperatures well.


Half the aspies I know make good eye contact. Not with everyone (especially not strangers), but they're comfortable with me and have no trouble with making eye contact. They don't seem to know how much eye contact is appropriate, but still...it's not true to say that they can't make 'warm eye contact'.


They're not clumsy with everything. There is usually a lack of motor coordination in certain areas, but it can be mild.


Once again, not always true. They don't like unexpected/unwanted contact, but most do crave physical affection of some sort, usually from family or their significant other. Unless physical contact actually causes pain, it's usually tolerable. It's more the unexpectedness and not knowing how to reciprocate that causes them to shy away from being touched.

My family always just chalked up my oddities to my being (they thought) extremely introverted. I used to read everything I could about introverts, trying to find something I could relate to, but it was all just people saying, "Oh, it's hard, I'm introverted so I get tired when I spend too much time at a party, and I would rather read a book than go shopping every day with my friends" which was nowhere close to what I was struggling with. I thought I must be so extremely introverted that I couldn't even relate to other introverts. Then I took a test that measures your level of introversion and it was only around 60%. My family was very surprised.

But when I read about AS, it all began to make sense.

I'd like to take that back, full time research was only from february to november 2006 and from october 2007 to february 2009, so let's say 2 years full time and three years part time. As for the rest of your points, my wording could be improved, but most likely you are talking of the kind of people i call missdiagnosed aspies.

The introverted NTs I know are better than both extroverted NTs and people like us combined.

I know I sound stupid for saying this, but that really offended me...I don't have a monotone voice, and not all autistics do (although I sometimes adopt one at school to make people in my class think I'm emotionless), and I'm sure that there are a couple autistics with mirror-touch synthesia (or however you spell it), such as (I think) me. The cold and hot brain is not all that it seems; some autists have depths of feeling that neurotypicals may not even realize, although the skin-pressing thing kind of works for me (I enjoy being hugged). The cold temperatures is either just a myth or a metaphor, but either one is false or media created, in my opinion, and some of the NT's can't make eye contact, either (especially when lying; I bought a book on that, just like I buy books on everything, as a bibliomaniac). Anybody can have motor clumsiness (my NT sister is an example; she broke an ankle on a step-up), and I'm not sure the touching thing is true when you said that they enjoy their skin being pressed. Most of the things you said were myths.