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11 Aug 2009, 9:05 pm

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It amazes me that some people can get away with being a***holes and treat others with an atrocious lack of respect, but squeal like a stuck pig if you stand up to them. I'm also amazed how quickly others stick up for them :cry:


Yes, one of the biggest mysteries for me is why people always side with the attacker against the one who defends from the attack.


People only stick up for, or side with the attacker for some form of personal gain from what I can see.

At my job I've seen people bullied for no reason, illegitimately centered out, talked down to etc, simply because at some point, one of the intimidators said "I don't like so and so." ...and so the flock follows. I've also noticed that if I'm having good day, and I stand up for the bullied, the same flock will redirect themselves to the legitimate issues (...usually human rights) that I've pointed out. These same people will hate the victim again, the next time they're in the presence of the intimidating party. Sheep. Anyway, I'll always choose to defend valid cases.



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22 Aug 2009, 6:09 am

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It amazes me that some people can get away with being a***holes and treat others with an atrocious lack of respect, but squeal like a stuck pig if you stand up to them. I'm also amazed how quickly others stick up for them :cry:


I'm surprised and confused that you added this comment, because it's unrelated to what I wrote - and yet, it's exactly what I wanted to write in continuation of my comment. I left it out because it was unrelated. Are you psychic? You seem to have "read" the continuation of my post, which I never posted. It's happened to me with someone on WP before, maybe it was you too...

Yes, one of the biggest mysteries for me is why people always side with the attacker against the one who defends from the attack.


I thought for a moment there you were going to say WTF are you on about :D

I just seem to be in a similar situation to yourself - where I have put up with others' bad behaviour either to try to get along, or in the mistaken belief that their justifications are warranted, and I am just reading the situation incorrectly. Often times it turns out I was correct all along. I am at the stage that I am not really willing to put up with that sort of bad behaviour and manipulation.

So I kind of extrapolated that this may be your experience too. ( Sometimes I'm right)
O my goodness, am I developing empathy? 8O Nah probably not...



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22 Aug 2009, 3:55 pm

Bullies are always popular. That's how it works. It's the tribe.

As for adrenalin, I get the adrenalin rush. But oddly, when I was attacked by a customer last year - without warning, so no chance for an anticipatory adrenalin rush - I felt nothing apart from a sense of injustice.



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23 Aug 2009, 4:25 am

Well because of it I've become somewhat of a sarcastic jackass.

I've lost lots of empathy towards people, and there's one thing I bring with me at all times now:

it's known as the all-mighty "bargaining chip". they pull something stupid, and you can hold it over their head at every turn.

I believe Greentea referred to it as "the king is nude". I refer to it as a "bargaining chip".

Do people hate me for it? Sure! Did they like me otherwise, before I even brought it up? Come now! :lol: :lol: :lol:



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23 Aug 2009, 5:38 am

Yes, I say and do as I please, because people (all of them, no exceptions) couldn't despise me more, anyway, so I've nothing to lose.


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23 Aug 2009, 6:26 am

Yeah, it's not like they're gonna suddenly like us better or something.

The only way is by offering a value they know they're screwed without, as even the 48 Laws of Power mentioned.

I know everyone always says "it's not what's on the outside, but what's on the inside that counts"...like they ever honestly mean it.

BTW, Greentea, I've been dying to say....I love that avatar of yours :)



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23 Aug 2009, 7:33 am

Thanks a lot, and where's yours? :)


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23 Aug 2009, 2:14 pm

I....don't know how to post one....



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23 Aug 2009, 3:16 pm

Autisticmalcontent, I have a recommendation:

Study some sort of martial arts: karate, tae kwon doe, something like that. Or even tai chi (which isn't a martial art, but very formalized).Not so that you can fight people using that, or even appear more threatening. But what the martial arts do is take these feelings that are pretty much paralyzing your body and mind and gives the control back to you. It's so you aren't a victim of your own body when you're under extreme stress, like somebody getting in your face or yelling at you. Those disciplines put you back in control of your body during stress. The formality and structure of those disciplines works especially well for people on the spectrum. It's one of the things that sometimes gets recommended for autistic children for just that reason. It stands to reason that it would be beneficial for adults too.



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23 Aug 2009, 3:43 pm

I think that's excellent advice, Janissy.

Doc, do you want to learn?


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23 Aug 2009, 11:18 pm

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I think that's excellent advice, Janissy.

Doc, do you want to learn?


Funny you should ask, as my gal used to take Karate, and told me at some point she'd like to take it again; I told her I'd be glad to join her in doing it. :)



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24 Aug 2009, 1:43 am

I meant if you'd like to know how to upload an avatar :)


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24 Aug 2009, 2:05 am

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I meant if you'd like to know how to upload an avatar :)


yes I would :)



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24 Aug 2009, 4:53 am

1. My account ---> Edit Profile ---> Avatar Control Panel

My account is on the top right corner of this page
Edit Profile is on the left hand side of the page you get to
Avatar Control Panel is at the bottom of the page you get to

2. (As per the instructions there, upload anything you like from your computer or the web or WP's own avatar selection (edit the picture with Office Picture Manager first, to make sure it has the right size)

If/when you get stuck at any of these stages, PM me.

At first I used one of the avatars of WP's selection, to make it easier and faster till I had a picture in the right size to upload from my computer.


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24 Aug 2009, 4:57 am

One small problem...I have no idea how to edit photos to make them small enough for an avatar.

Little help? :)



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24 Aug 2009, 5:24 am

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It amazes me that some people can get away with being a***holes and treat others with an atrocious lack of respect, but squeal like a stuck pig if you stand up to them. I'm also amazed how quickly others stick up for them



Me too! So much a reality bending practise.

I always feel/look feable spluttering sentences trying to put reason back in the picture. Useless of course, which then really angers me - on 2 accounts : that i tried reasoning with pigs-in-sheepclothing; that i never seem to learn to NOT do it.

What saves me from being 'bent' by this practise is that i just don't get what it is they get off on! The herding or the communal cruelty???! !