Inappropriate emotions, not feeling anything

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24 Aug 2009, 7:03 pm

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Natural death provokes absolutely no emotion in me. I think that has something to do with lacking empathy.
Or simply not enjoying life very much.

No, this is completely unrelated to how my life is going. Unlike too many other Aspies, I can actually enjoy life. If anything, I enjoy playing with young son. I enjoy good food and conversation (well, one interesting conversation at a time).


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24 Aug 2009, 7:23 pm

I have a delayed emotional response to death. I remember being reprimanded for laughing at my grandfather's funeral. It may have been because I was so confused being around many people and with all the pointless funeral rituals. I even bragged about not crying and being "strong" when everyone else was crying. However, later it dawned on me that my grandfather was gone; that there was no longer anyone there to read me bedtime stories and to take me out for long walks in the forest. It is only upon this realization that I spent at least 2 hours all alone in my room crying.

I also often laugh out loud in a class when no one else is laughing, which is VERY embarassing. :oops:

I think this is caused by the fact that I have lots of associations in my head. While other people concentrate on the "plot" of human interactions, my mind wanders on about stuff I notice that other people don't seem to notice at all. When something catches my eye, a string of associations forms in my head, associations that frequently have nothing to do with the situation at hand.


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24 Aug 2009, 7:30 pm

My grandmother's brother died this morning, and to me it's just an unfortunate bit of news for her. I didn't know her brother, cos he lived in Oklahoma. I can't share in her sadness. I feel nothing.

My mother calls me in the middle of my nap and says I need to turn the oven off. I hate being woken up when napping, and so does she. My grandmother left the oven on cos she had to leave quickly. Well, I wasn't aware. Then 15 minutes later she calls and says to turn it back on. So I got woken up for nothing. My mother tells me to get over it, her uncle just died. I do understand that everyone is sad, but I'm not on everyone's wavelength. It doesn't register. So, I have to place myself in a similar situation to understand the feeling, and that isn't fun. I'd rather just go back to bed.


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24 Aug 2009, 7:43 pm

Here's one about not feeling anything during a dramatic moment in my life.

I said something particularly rude to my girlfriend and she slapped me and proceeded to tell me off. Consciously, I THOUGHT it was over because I had done something very stupid. She was only a wonderful woman with whom I was having my first affair. After a while of arguing, as it were, I felt my eyes start to burn. Then, the tears flowed. I do not know what I was FEELING. I can only guess in retrospect. With her great empathy, she probably knows better than me. Anyway she forgave and remarked on her ability to make men cry.


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24 Aug 2009, 7:47 pm

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Anyway she forgave and remarked on her ability to make men cry.


If I'd have heard that statement, I would have assumed she reveled in that like an achievement. Why would she state that if she didn't find some kind of sick pride in it? That's what I'd have been thinking.


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24 Aug 2009, 7:57 pm

What's even more irritating about tonight's events is that despite what my mother knows about AS, she still doesn't seem to give me any slack. I don't like guilt trips. They don't make me feel guilty. I just get pissed that someone wants to try that on me.


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24 Aug 2009, 8:20 pm

At my grandma's funeral, in the cemetery, I was standing there staring blankly into the distance (as usual) and someone came up to me and asked "are you OK" in a very kindly and supportive way and I realized I wasn't feeling anything, I was just waiting for it to be over.

But I care about people a lot, and am aware of their feelings. NT's have a direct, hard-wired empathic reflex. You show them a picture of your new baby and they say aww and feel stuff. It's like if you stick them with a pin and they say oww and feel pain.

I look at the picture and think "they have a new baby and they're happy and that's great and it makes me happy too, because I like them to be happy", and then I mimic an NT response by saying "Aww isn't he cute".

I don't think I care any less, but the information is processed in a different part of my brain, because I don't have much of the reflex part.


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24 Aug 2009, 8:28 pm

I can't even muster up the ability to be fake. I hate being fake.


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24 Aug 2009, 8:36 pm

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Anyway she forgave and remarked on her ability to make men cry.


If I'd have heard that statement, I would have assumed she reveled in that like an achievement. Why would she state that if she didn't find some kind of sick pride in it? That's what I'd have been thinking.

She wasn't reveling, she wasn't even sure how she did it. I think she was thinking in terms of getting men to open up to and be vulnerable around her when they otherwise wouldn't. She really craved emotional intimacy. She also was fed up with how most men didn't take her seriously because of her beauty. That led to her quitting her previous job, when her married boss and family friend came on to her.


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24 Aug 2009, 9:17 pm

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Natural death provokes absolutely no emotion in me. I think that has something to do with lacking empathy.


What does provoke an emotional response in you, may I ask?

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24 Aug 2009, 10:36 pm

Events often elicit inappropriate responses. Someone (obviously upset) was telling me about someone who had just commited suicide. I felt a sort of amusement at the news and had to struggle with hiding the smile I felt creeping onto my face.

In other instances, I break down at events that I know shouldn't have any great affect on me. I never know how I am going to react. :?



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25 Aug 2009, 8:53 am

WoodenNickel wrote:
Natural death provokes absolutely no emotion in me. I think that has something to do with lacking empathy.


I've never understood why this should be a sign of lacking empathy, though many say it.

I mean, when you are sad because a person has died, it is not because you feel bad for the dead person really, but because you are sad that he is gone and you miss him. Right? Or do I misunderstand something?



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25 Aug 2009, 10:20 am

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Natural death provokes absolutely no emotion in me. I think that has something to do with lacking empathy.


I've never understood why this should be a sign of lacking empathy, though many say it.

I mean, when you are sad because a person has died, it is not because you feel bad for the dead person really, but because you are sad that he is gone and you miss him. Right? Or do I misunderstand something?

Right, that's the way I take it. I am really only sad at funerals if I know the person who died really well. I am sad because I won't get to talk with them again. Then again, if it's not exactly a sudden thing and I've been able to say my goodbyes, it's a lot easier.

If I attend a funeral of someone who was very close to a friend or relative of mine, I feel very sad for those people. I don't like to see others upset. So I'm pretty good at "fitting in" in those situations.


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25 Aug 2009, 7:02 pm

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Natural death provokes absolutely no emotion in me. I think that has something to do with lacking empathy.


What does provoke an emotional response in you, may I ask?

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Lots of things, including obnoxious responses to my posts. :wink: Death is just not among them.


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27 Aug 2009, 8:49 am

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I have a delayed emotional response to death. I remember being reprimanded for laughing at my grandfather's funeral. It may have been because I was so confused being around many people and with all the pointless funeral rituals. I even bragged about not crying and being "strong" when everyone else was crying. However, later it dawned on me that my grandfather was gone; that there was no longer anyone there to read me bedtime stories and to take me out for long walks in the forest. It is only upon this realization that I spent at least 2 hours all alone in my room crying.


Hopefully your delayed response doesn't come back. When my best friend died, I cried all night, then at school the next day, I was the strong one, who noone believed at first when I answered EVERYONE's question as they walked in the door - "Why is everyone crying?" I was the one who pulled my class togeather to remember the good things. Much much later, his death came back and hit me hard (beginning of this year, actually), and I was feeling terrible about it for a couple months. My friend died about 16 years ago.



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27 Aug 2009, 9:23 am

I have trouble having any empathy when it comes to natural death. It leaves me wondering what the big deal is about all of a sudden... I mean, everyone knows it's coming, it's going to happen and all. Especially if it's an illness that takes the person-then people actually have some sort of time frame to expect it in. There is lots of preparation for it, so it's no surprise to me really.

I get upset when animals die though... I get upset thinking about things that have to do with my children if anything happened to me... I get upset about a lot of things that are very minute to others and just not rational as far as they are concerned... then I get more upset that I'm upset to begin with, because I can't process and make sense of things when I am upset.

I don't get how NTs-some of them, can really do the whole 100% fake thing. I'm a fixer... if someone is that upset, and I was in their shoes, I would want the problem solved so I didn't have to worry about it anymore, or I would want time to myself. I don't really understand the whole "oh, I'm so sorry for you" type of stuff... I tend to start asking questions, getting information about situations before I can say whether or not I'm sorry for that person.

There is a line where feeling sorry for them turns into me wanting to just yell "stop being stupid and this stuff will stop happening to you!" That's when I go silent, walk away, and let them be. If I can't relate from my own experiences, or can see huge flaws in their logic on things, then I can't go any further with it.

Some see me as cold 'cuz of my questioning them and all, but meh... that doesn't really bug me much either.


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