Asperger's without repetitive routines and inflexibility

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25 Aug 2009, 6:27 am

There's much more needed than just the break of the routine to upset me. If I'm feeling good, I'll probably be fairly indifferent. If I'm feeling depressed, the change of routine itself might not upset me but the activity might, as the original activity was designed to accommodate the depression and the new one might not. Rather than routine, it comes down to obsession. Whatever I'm obsessed with, I need to engage in that to relieve my mind, hence a routine naturally arises to outlet that. Once again, breaking the routine itself isn't so much the issue as no longer being able to outlet the obsession.

At most, in itself breaking routine's makes me feel slightly uncomfortable but will often have negative side affects. I don't know how typical that is for other autistics.



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25 Aug 2009, 7:09 am

I have my routines (work, feed cats, etc.), but nothing that is considered extreme or non-functional.



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25 Aug 2009, 8:20 am

I don't like the term "non-functional routine." They are obviously functional on some level to the people doing them, else they wouldn't be doing them.

I don't know if I have any of these. I have little things that are fueled by compulsion, such as buying a muffin with my coffee even if I am not hungry. This is so close to a "functional" routine that it probably doesn't even count. Certainly no one would notice.

I do know that when I get home I like to do things in a certain order. I believe that this helps me systemize around my executive deficiencies.


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25 Aug 2009, 8:44 am

I don't have inflexible routines as such. Neither does it matter very much if my plan is changed one time. But it does bother me if there come several plan-changes rapidly after each other. I may get an overload then.



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26 Aug 2009, 10:17 pm

Routines are not the most compelling aspect of Gillberg's criteria for AS and that criteria will most likely evolve as The criteria for a disorder that is not simply Autism without language deficit but a distinct disorder that is very heritable and that characterizes most people on this forum. Social Egocentricism, narrow and intense bazaar interests and lack of theory of mind will be the necessary criteria. If others have accused you of not being able to take the perspective of others (lacking empathy not sympathy), if you like a particular thing and give it as a gift knowing the person you are giving it to will hate it--you are an aspie.



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26 Aug 2009, 11:45 pm

fiddlerpianist wrote:
I don't like the term "non-functional routine." They are obviously functional on some level to the people doing them, else they wouldn't be doing them.

I don't know if I have any of these. I have little things that are fueled by compulsion, such as buying a muffin with my coffee even if I am not hungry. This is so close to a "functional" routine that it probably doesn't even count. Certainly no one would notice.

I do know that when I get home I like to do things in a certain order. I believe that this helps me systemize around my executive deficiencies.


I think it is more like compulsive behaviors that have no inherent function. Like only eating white foods, or having exactly 7 green beans. Nts have non-functional routines. Like needing your sandwich cut into triangles on Monday, circles on Tuesday, etc. It seems however, most common with OCD.


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27 Aug 2009, 12:47 am

answersfinally wrote:
Routines are not the most compelling aspect of Gillberg's criteria for AS and that criteria will most likely evolve as The criteria for a disorder that is not simply Autism without language deficit but a distinct disorder that is very heritable and that characterizes most people on this forum. Social Egocentricism, narrow and intense bazaar interests and lack of theory of mind will be the necessary criteria. If others have accused you of not being able to take the perspective of others (lacking empathy not sympathy), if you like a particular thing and give it as a gift knowing the person you are giving it to will hate it--you are an aspie.


What's with the obsession you have with Gillberg? Sure you aren't an aspie in denial? Plus, it's pretty obvious that there are overlaps between Classic Autism and Asperger's.. It seems, more and more, like they are both just different variations of the same thing. And i think "lack" of theory of mind is a little extreme. I'd say impaired. To lack it completely would be to not ever have any idea that other people have states of mind at all. And i think most of us can figure out that, logically, other people do have thoughts. It's in imagining what those thoughts are where there starts to be a problem. And i think that most aspies are capable of giving gifts other than things they, themselves, like. Bleh.