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Electric_Kite
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28 Sep 2009, 8:44 pm

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Aren't all kids put on "leashes" (we referred to them as reigns when I was young) at some point? :?

I was.


I never was! Then again, I was born in the 60s. I think this became FAR more accepted in the late 70s.


Maybe it's a regional thing. When I was a baby my older brother wore one, but when we moved from Newfoundland to Colorado my mother stopped using it because people gave her a hard time about it.

I don't see the problem. It's safer. I probably could have benefited from such a thing even as an older, school age kid. I didn't run off, but I would wander off and stare at things, utterly silent and spaced out, not responding when yelled for.



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28 Sep 2009, 9:01 pm

Given that nowadays parents in general seem to be getting worse at educating their children properly, there should be a law forcing to keep them on leashes... most dogs behave better than most children lately, and they force to keep *them* on leashes.



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28 Sep 2009, 9:14 pm

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Thanks for giving me a different light on the issue. :-) The 3 floor mall sounds scary (with the child running around/hiding/climbing etc.) so in that sense a tether like item would be sufficient Thanks for helping me look at it differently.


It was scary. And then she grew up to be a teenager. 8O That was scarier. :D



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28 Sep 2009, 9:17 pm

I believe the person who takes the pic (they are submitted) have to have permission from the people in the pic for it to be posted, so these people agreed to have it on. The caption made no sense. There are many people who put these on their kids. Not just special needs. I was close to putting one on my son (who does have AS) as he would wonder off, very quietly. Most the time we carried him or used the stroller or we'd put him in the cart, which he hated. These ones are actually better than just the harness. They more resemble a backpack. If i were to buy one, that is the one i'd buy!

I noticed a lot of people thinking this kid is 7 or 8? My daughter is just as tall (besides the cart) and she is 4. I guess that is what the big confusion is about. They think the kid is older than he probably is?



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28 Sep 2009, 9:26 pm

there's the odd 'busybody' types who frown upon children being on a leash. They think it demeans the child, regardless of the actual use or purpose of the leash. They'd rather kids ran around and got into things.



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28 Sep 2009, 9:28 pm

I've never seen a human on a leash before. :?


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28 Sep 2009, 10:00 pm

I used a harness for my daughter when she was a toddler and she was definitely not special needs. She was such an active kid, she wanted to be able to walk in public places, but didn't want to hold hands with me for long. The harness gave her a way to have her freedom of movement and still be safe from various hazards. She loved it and it helped me because I didn't have to constantly reprimand her or try to catch her when she decided to run away. If I got tired, I could sit down on a bench and let her run in circles around me. :lol:



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28 Sep 2009, 10:05 pm

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Mom had to do that with my little brother.
Especially in the car or he'd be climbing out the window at 70mph.
(remember, this was early 1960 before back seatbelts and air conditioning were common)
(interestingly, he now jumps out of helicopters for a living. so does one of his kids)


Heheh. He was born for diveing.



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28 Sep 2009, 10:08 pm

My 11 year old son is AS, and also has a mood disorder. When he was about 3 , he went from being a mild-mannered, inquistive little boy, to being completely out-of-control MANIC. At the time, we didn't know what was going on, or that he had some kind of condition. But if I took him out, he'd go running wildly across streets. It wasn't a case of discipline or teaching him right from wrong. He just completely lacked that impulse control, because of the mania. I eventually got a leash for him, and got a few dirty looks because of it. The leash didn't work, though. He would wind himself around poles and get stuck.

I didn't look at the video or pictures. I decided long ago that Wal-Mart was evil, and I will never set foot in one of their stores. I never have. (I realize in many areas, there is no choice. They've taken over the world. So creepy.)



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28 Sep 2009, 10:21 pm

zeldapsychology wrote:
Thanks for giving me a different light on the issue. :-) The 3 floor mall sounds scary (with the child running around/hiding/climbing etc.) so in that sense a tether like item would be sufficient Thanks for helping me look at it differently.


I have to admit that I thought the same way until I had kids with ASD. My daughter really wasn't really all that hard to keep up with, so I was ignorant to the struggles that other parents faced. As I'm growing older life is teaching me that just when I think I have a solid black, and white opinion on something there really might be another side of the story to consider.

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I believe the person who takes the pic (they are submitted) have to have permission from the people in the pic for it to be posted, so these people agreed to have it on. The caption made no sense. There are many people who put these on their kids. Not just special needs. I was close to putting one on my son (who does have AS) as he would wonder off, very quietly. Most the time we carried him or used the stroller or we'd put him in the cart, which he hated. These ones are actually better than just the harness. They more resemble a backpack. If i were to buy one, that is the one i'd buy!

No, the pictures don't need permission. Anyone can take them, and submit them without the knowledge of the the person in the photo. I think the site owners really should at least blur the faces of people. To be honest, some of them are funny. I mean who forgets to put on pants before they go shopping? But, making fun of kids, especially special needs kids, isn't funny.

My son has the frog harness, instead of the monkey. I think that I'm going to buy some autism awareness buttons to attach to it so that people are at least aware that he has autism. No one has ever said anything negative to me about it, but then again it's really obvious that my son has special needs. People do stare a lot, though.

Thanks to all of you that shared you stories of having to use a harness. I should've used one for my older son, too when he was younger. He is much higher functioning than my 5 yo, but he was as someone else said a 'houdini'. The kid could get out of anything, and was always on the go. He's almost been ran over several times by breaking away from me in parking lots, and has hidden in clothes racks, dove headfirst out of shopping carts... ect.. I didn't know that he was autistic until he was 4, and I never even considered a harness for him. I still have a little bit of a problem with him not paying attention to where he's going, and wandering away, but nothing like it used to be. Unfortunately, my younger son is probably going to need the harness for years to come.



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28 Sep 2009, 10:48 pm

Eh it's just (really bad) humor. Humor often makes fun of a subgroup and thus insults someone somewhere. Odd looking (read: different; just like us here) people are often a target.



28 Sep 2009, 11:16 pm

I took off all the time when I was little. I just liked wandering off and didn't know my limits. My parents tried to put me on a leash but I hated it so they never did it again. They just kept a close eye on me. That must have been very difficult because you can't keep an eye on your kid every single minutes when you are shopping or paying for your items. My mom told me she turn her back and then turn around and I be gone. Then she found this leash that goes around the child's wrist and the mother's and she bought it and it worked for a while until I figured how to take it off. She also kept me in a stroller too. I even had to wear this bracelet on my wrist with my name and address on it and phone number.



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29 Sep 2009, 12:57 am

serenity wrote:
I just read their FAQ, and it said if you find a picture of yourself on their site that you can request it to be removed. That makes me feel a little better.

Yeah, I know people are cruel. That's what my husband said when I told him about it. He said that people are going to laugh at our son, and there's no way to stop them. :cry:


In Canada, they would have to remove it since it is LAW that you can't post somebodys picture up and ridicule them without permission if they are not a public figure.Canada has very strict privacy laws and if that was in Canada, the poster would be liable even if the pic was removed since it was posted without permission.


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21 Aug 2015, 12:02 am

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Or am I just overreacting? http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=4300 The particular picture that's in the link is mocking a child that's on a harness. The kid is probably about 4 or 5 yrs old, and most likely has special needs... hence why his parents have him on a harness. I use a harness with my severely ASD 5 (almost 6) yo. I can't believe that people would be so cruel as to laugh at something like this. I'm actually afraid of shopping at Wal-Mart now, because I'm afraid that my family's picture will end up on the site.

Maybe, I'm just being too sensitive, I don't know. I sent them an e-mail requesting that they remove the photos of children on harnesses (really NO kids should be on there, because it's horrible to make fun of kids), but they're still there. I'd imagine that they don't care that they've upset anyone, since they have a special section of their site dedicated to hate mail.

It's never a nice thing for someone to take a photo of someone else and publicly mock them. It's okay to be offended by this.. as long as you can see the humour in it :) Which applies to anything, of course!



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21 Aug 2015, 4:37 am

I think they are more acceptable in the uk than in the U.S. They're a good idea really, the kid can walk about but can't run off. In the uk I've seen ones that are little rucksacks with a clip at the front with the leash attached to the rucksack, they're quite cute, you can get ladybirds nod other patterns. I think a lot of people use reigns over here.



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21 Aug 2015, 7:36 am

I find the caption strange and forced.

Like others said, you could claim the picture was of you. Or you could ignore it.


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