How do I avoid the "What do you do?" question?

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14 Oct 2009, 6:35 am

A: What do you do?
B: I work for a non-profit.
A: Nice! And what does the non-profit do?
B: We fight for equal rights for people who refuse to be defined by their occupation.

A: What do you do?
B: I'm retired.
A: At your age?
B: Yes, at my age.
A: You sure are lucky!
B: Yes, I sure am.

I promise you, they won't say one word more.

That they'll find you strange? Well, if you're like me, they'll find you strange whatever you do or say, so no loss there.


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14 Oct 2009, 6:39 am

This is a real conversation I had some time ago:

A: What do you do?
Me: Nothing.
A: Then how do you live?
Me: I don't.

It's important to keep it brief, and talk with a straight, official face, tone and no body language. The slightest apologetic body language or tone and you'll be fried (mockery, further questioning, whining about your character, etc.) I spent 8 years researching this and trying different approaches. I also live in a country where your personal data is considered public property. You must answer all smalltalk questions.


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14 Oct 2009, 6:49 am

well when they're asking specifically about me, I flat-out tell 'em I own a busines. It's great word of mouth advertising, and I'm proud to admit to being a business owner...especially selling the type of merchandise that I do :)



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14 Oct 2009, 7:31 am

I have seen a couple of 'Jesse Stone' movies, a Police Chief of a small town played by Tom Selleck.

Not sure if he is AS but he does have the perfect way to kill a conversation before it starts.

He answers all questions with one word (mostly just yes and no but some limited variety) :!:

For the benefit of Aspies, one of the characters points out to him that this is considered rude (I didnt know that :wink: )

It's very powerful and probably more effective than f*** *ff

I've tried it on a few people that I particularly don't like and it works


I learned another technique from an aloof NT

In answer to ANY question, simply repeat back the LAST word of the question

I experienced the one word end of this and I felt like something being examined under a microscope............horrible............ :!:



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14 Oct 2009, 7:39 am

"It's a long story."

*sigh* Much awkwardness.



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14 Oct 2009, 7:58 am

"What do you do?"
"When?"

"What do you do?"
"About what?"

"What do you do?"
"Why do you ask?"

"What do you do?"
"A little as possible!"

"What do you do?"
"As much as possible."

"What do you do?"
"Anything I can."

"What do you do?"
"Look for answers to questions."

Point: There is no right or wrong answer, just the fact of any matter ... and one of the challenges of life, at least as I see it, is to learn to accept and live with the facts that cannot be changed.


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14 Oct 2009, 8:05 am

This goes to the heart of small talk, in this case, opening small talk.

I wonder if small talk is what NT's do to avoid intellectual conversation OR.............

it is how they warm up and need to spend most of their speaking time because they can't stay on the intellectual highway as long as us :?:



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14 Oct 2009, 8:06 am

I have seen a couple of 'Jesse Stone' movies, a Police Chief of a small town played by Tom Selleck.

Not sure if he is AS but he does have the perfect way to kill a conversation before it starts.

He answers all questions with one word (mostly just yes and no but some limited variety) :!:

For the benefit of Aspies, one of the characters points out to him that this is considered rude (I didnt know that :wink: )

It's very powerful and probably more effective than f*** *ff

I've tried it on a few people that I particularly don't like and it works


I learned another technique from an aloof NT

In answer to ANY question, simply repeat back the LAST word of the question

I experienced the one word end of this and I felt like something being examined under a microscope............horrible............ :!:



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14 Oct 2009, 8:31 am

southwestforests wrote:
pat2rome wrote:
That's one of the basic small talk questions, so it's going to be pretty hard to avoid.


Basic truth of life in this culture.

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I would just say you're currently looking for a job and then grumble about the economy. That should at least get some sympathy and minimize the awkwardness.

But then it might also set the stage for a whole string of questions abut what you're looking for, where have you looked, who did your resume, who do you know, how can I help you, and...and...and...


This. I don't want to say I'm unemployed because that's... kind of shameful (to me, anyway, if I were in a place with a lot of "higher" people) or if I felt a need to impress people and then I'd get stuff like "Where did you go to school? What did you study? Blah? Blahblah?"

I really wish I could quote multiple posts at once...



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14 Oct 2009, 8:36 am

Greentea wrote:
A: What do you do?
B: I work for a non-profit.
A: Nice! And what does the non-profit do?
B: We fight for equal rights for people who refuse to be defined by their occupation.

That's fantastic. When I'm in a particularly snarky mood, I'm using that one. I think I'll use the retired one or say I'm independently wealthy/won the lottery if I feel like ducking out.

I like the idea of answering literally, too. "What do I do? I play games. I go to movies. What? You asked what I do."

Anyway, these replies have all been really helpful. I never know how to react to these kinds of "icebreaker" questions. I just go all...

:?



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14 Oct 2009, 8:54 am

Blindspot149 wrote:
I wonder if small talk is what NT's do to avoid intellectual conversation...


:lol: \m/

The majority of them are probably incapable, anyway. ;)


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14 Oct 2009, 8:58 am

Real-life chitchat between NTs and me:

NTs: "So what do you do?"

Me: "Pretty much whatever folks'll pay me to do, barring flipping burgers and prostitution."

Depending on the NT, I might also add, "...and the jury's still out on the prostitution angle..."

:twisted: :P


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14 Oct 2009, 8:58 am

Small talk is mostly used to get to know someone. It is hard to talk to someone you know nothing about, which is why people talk about the weather, because everyone experiences that. If they ask you what you do, then it may give them some information that will eventually allow that person to get to know you and find common interests. They would never know what your interests are unless they engaged in some kind of conversation in the first place. Asking questions is how you start that process. You have to start somewhere, and most people have a job, go to school or do something so that's an easy place to begin.

You don't have to say that you are not working, that's mostly not the intent of that question, (unless you are a superficial butthead who is only interested in someones status). If your interest is in geoscience, and you spend a lot of time researching and learning about geoscience, you can say you study that. You don't have to elaborate if you don't want to. If they inquire specifically about a job, you can say this is my work, I work for myself, however you want to answer.

There was one post about small talk that speaks to it being used to avoid intellectual conversation. It actually can be the road to it. You just have to start "small" and allow the conversation to grow into something with more substance.

That's my NT 2 cents



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14 Oct 2009, 12:15 pm

MommyJones wrote:
Small talk is mostly used to get to know someone. It is hard to talk to someone you know nothing about, which is why people talk about the weather, because everyone experiences that. If they ask you what you do, then it may give them some information that will eventually allow that person to get to know you and find common interests. They would never know what your interests are unless they engaged in some kind of conversation in the first place. Asking questions is how you start that process. You have to start somewhere, and most people have a job, go to school or do something so that's an easy place to begin.

You don't have to say that you are not working, that's mostly not the intent of that question, (unless you are a superficial butthead who is only interested in someones status). If your interest is in geoscience, and you spend a lot of time researching and learning about geoscience, you can say you study that. You don't have to elaborate if you don't want to. If they inquire specifically about a job, you can say this is my work, I work for myself, however you want to answer.

There was one post about small talk that speaks to it being used to avoid intellectual conversation. It actually can be the road to it. You just have to start "small" and allow the conversation to grow into something with more substance.

That's my NT 2 cents


I couldn't agree more with MommyJones on this one.

In addition, who knows, maybe the person doing the asking of "so, what do you do?" to make conversation could be high functioning Aspie themselves and they are using common techniques to make connections with people around them. Just something to think about.



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14 Oct 2009, 12:39 pm

MizLiz wrote:
I really wish I could quote multiple posts at once...

You can, just not automatically. At the bottom where there's the frame that shows the previous posts, you can just copy what you want to quote, paste it into the box, highlight it, and click the thing that makes it a quotation. (if you don't want to type that part in yourself)
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Then add in the ="PersonsName" part yourself.



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14 Oct 2009, 12:43 pm

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I fear becoming one of those people who is defined by their job. My sociology professor was talking about how everyone has a "master status" in life, which is an individual's most important status in their "status set." Most people's master status is something like being a student, parent, or their job title, and everyone apparently has one. I don't think I do though, and I don't want to. I don't want one aspect of my life to completely take over and overshadow everything else. Even if I ever do stop being so lazy and decide on a career path that I actually want to pursue for the rest of my life, I want people to just think of me as me, not as whatever job title I happen to have.


I know I am a lot of things, all of them important to really know me. I am man, Mexican, software engineer, gay, Catholic, single, 29 years old, etcetera.

None of those alone defines me, and I do not want to be labeled by just one of them.

But I do have a master status that I think helps you know a lot (almost all) about me: geek. I am a geek first and foremost, and I love it. All my activities are affected to some degree by my geekiness. I could not date anyone else in my life (kind of like "stop being gay") and I would still be me. I could be older than 29 and I would still be me. I could get another nationality and I would still be me (though that'd be weird).

But I could never stop being a geek. Or if I did, I'd become a totally different person.

Well, back to topic...

I have met a lot of people in theater activities, and they all know where I work, so I don't get the question in the same sense. But I get the "what exactly do you do at your work" question, which is worse for me, because they really have an interest to know more of what I do (or at least curiosity), but I'd find it boring to actually tell them every aspect of what I do during the day... Especially since they could not understand anything if I used one-word explanations using technicisms, I'd have to give long explanations when I'd rather be doing something else.