When autism fades, do you really lose your unique talents?

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04 Nov 2009, 2:39 am

What are these unique talents you're talking about? :wink: The narrow interest and your ability to recite factual data like a textbook?

You probably just have your mind taken up with social things, so you have less time to spend thinking about schooling. If you can't/don't do social things, you tend to focus on other things, no matter what disorder you have or not.

I've stayed the same, well, my problems became worst later on in life due to everyone growing up "socially" around me, in addition to the chaos of high school (multiple subjects in multiple classrooms, hundreds of different people, a tight time schedule, etcetera and etcetera). I'm good again now that I'm away from that.



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04 Nov 2009, 4:14 am

It could be the drugs. But also I found that I was more skilled when young than now. Growing up have decreased both gifts and stims. Actually when I need to recover my mental ability for work I can simply fall back in old habit. They came together, I can't socialize and think properly. I can't hiperfocus without rocking. My office-mate joke on that they think is a sort of "meditative state", they know that I must ACT autistic to be productive and accept it.


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04 Nov 2009, 4:16 am

(Nightsun: I like your sig.)


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04 Nov 2009, 11:29 pm

Egads, this may be the most offensive post I've read in some time. A person does not "outgrow" autism. The entire spectrum is neurological so a person will be born with it and carry it until the very end. Granted, many of us learn skills and strategies to adapt to the larger society and be as functional as possible. Thought of "outgrowing" AS is the danger of self-diagnosis. Anyone can go through the DSM-IV or read a magazine article and identify with individual traits of any condition.

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I'm at a time in my life where I can safely say that I've "grown out" of my diagnosis of Asperger's. I am atypical of many people on the spectrum in that over the past 2-3 years, I have become increasingly (and successfully) social.

I have many close friends of both sexes, have lovers, enjoy meeting new people and love parties/social get togethers. I see friends nearly every day that I haven't reserved for studying, class or errands. Some people refer to me as a vagabond as I often stay over at multiple friend's places on the weekends. I also take an anti-anxiety/depressant pill which has halted my anxiety, obsessive thinking and attachments to certain subjects/people/objects. In other words, if you had no knowledge of my background, you'd likely see me as a fun loving, enthusiastic, empathic NT.

When I look at my life, I see an image of success despite struggle...but I was also such an interesting child and teen, with many gifts and talents that, if nurtured, would have made me much more vibrant of a person than I am now.

In the prime of my full-blown Aspie years, I created these "projects" where I would research a very specific topic (e.g. milk cartons, silos, bathing suit backs) or create imaginary worlds complete with geography and characters. I would fully immerse myself in these projects, devoting all of my waking hours into writing down everything in great detail. These projects of mine would enthrall adults, but bore my peers to death. Looking back on my life at this time, I see the dedication and passion for these projects as unequalled to the things that typical peers were involved with at the time.

Another aspect of myself that I feel I lost when I gained social awareness was my intelligence, particularly in the area of reading, writing, and communication skills. I was labelled as "hyperlexic" and "verbally gifted" and was found to be reading at a grade seven level in kindergarten.

Now, I'm in university and my profs tell me that I can't write an essay worth crap. I'm not saying that I have lost my academic skills altogether, but they have most definitely degraded from the time I gained social awareness. When I became focused on pleasing others and refining my social skills, I became less focused in school: my grades also dropped from high As in high school/college to straight B+s in university. I realize the fact that your grades do shift when you first start attending university: but I'm now in my third year and mine haven't changed. I've also become more cynical and apathetic towards university/institutionalized learning as a result, preferring to gain knowledge/realizations via my creative friends.

The thing is, though, that I am too used to the norms of the 'real world' to be able to gain all of these abilities back. I am far too self-aware to just ignore people and focus on my projects and schoolwork like I used to. I feel as if I don't have the focus and passion that I used to have for academics and particular subjects, as instead this focus has gone towards social skills.

What does everyone think? Do you agree or disagree with this particular phenomenon? Has anyone else gone through a similar experience?


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04 Nov 2009, 11:31 pm

Yes, I'll be less wild and more sane... and unhappy because I ain't unique!


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04 Nov 2009, 11:37 pm

TuDoDude wrote:
Egads, this may be the most offensive post I've read in some time. A person does not "outgrow" autism. The entire spectrum is neurological so a person will be born with it and carry it until the very end. Granted, many of us learn skills and strategies to adapt to the larger society and be as functional as possible. Thought of "outgrowing" AS is the danger of self-diagnosis. Anyone can go through the DSM-IV or read a magazine article and identify with individual traits of any condition.


Oh noes the self-dx'ed people are raping the white women again, except... oh yeah,

the original poster is officially diagnosed.



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04 Nov 2009, 11:41 pm

Congratulations --- you're officially labelled...


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04 Nov 2009, 11:49 pm

But of course, everyone is officially diagnosed because the new trend is the AS diagnosis for everyone.

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TuDoDude wrote:
Egads, this may be the most offensive post I've read in some time. A person does not "outgrow" autism. The entire spectrum is neurological so a person will be born with it and carry it until the very end. Granted, many of us learn skills and strategies to adapt to the larger society and be as functional as possible. Thought of "outgrowing" AS is the danger of self-diagnosis. Anyone can go through the DSM-IV or read a magazine article and identify with individual traits of any condition.


Oh noes the self-dx'ed people are raping the white women again, except... oh yeah,

the original poster is officially diagnosed.


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04 Nov 2009, 11:51 pm

If everyone's diagnosed, who's NT? :P


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04 Nov 2009, 11:55 pm

Exactly. That's what I've been thinking lately. Soon NTs will be "impaired" and be in the DSM-VII. Then the trend will be to be identified NT.

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If everyone's diagnosed, who's NT? :P


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04 Nov 2009, 11:58 pm

The trend would be cool to start with.


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05 Nov 2009, 12:01 am

Well, I don't know if it's useful to be doubtful of everybody's status. But my previous comment was unfairly snarky/harsh. :(

It was just the jumping to the conclusion that an disagreement means it must be some self-dx'ed people messing things up. At the OP's age, I got better at some social interaction (but not nearly that much), and some years later that lessened somewhat, as it was very stressful and my energies were dropping as I got older. So, I think things can fluctuate, just in the OP's case it's pretty dramatic.

[quote="TuDoDude"]But of course, everyone is officially diagnosed because the new trend is the AS diagnosis for everyone.



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05 Nov 2009, 12:02 am

I wouldn't know, as my autism hasn't faded, and if I have unique skills, I haven't discovered them yet.


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05 Nov 2009, 12:05 am

Actually, I didn't understand the "white women" comment; I didn't see it in context of the original statement. Also, I don't know what OP means.

Apple_in_my_Eye wrote:
Well, I don't know if it's useful to be doubtful of everybody's status. But my previous comment was unfairly snarky/harsh. :(

It was just the jumping to the conclusion that an disagreement means it must be some self-dx'ed people messing things up. At the OP's age, I got better at some social interaction (but not nearly that much), and some years later that lessened somewhat, as it was very stressful and my energies were dropping as I got older. So, I think things can fluctuate, just in the OP's case it's pretty dramatic.

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But of course, everyone is officially diagnosed because the new trend is the AS diagnosis for everyone.


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05 Nov 2009, 12:14 am

TuDoDude wrote:
Actually, I didn't understand the "white women" comment; I didn't see it in context of the original statement. Also, I don't know what OP means.


OP = original poster

White women having a severe and constant threat of being raped by black men was/is a meme that was/is used said constantly, even though it wasn't/isn't true. If someone did get raped, and it wasn't clear who, people could jump to the conclusion that it was a black man, because they are the one who are 'always causing problems.'



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05 Nov 2009, 12:21 am

As a 36 year old i can say you never grow out of it. It just cycles like most things. I can go for months high functioning then something will happen to bring me crashing back down.