Is anyone here confident?
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I'm very confident with numbers and finance/money and as an active sportsman I'm very confident physically.
Socially I think I am quite confident (even though I tend to 'stumble' quite a lot), despite that fact that, as 'Bartleby the Scrivener' would say, 'I'd rather not' (socialize).
That said, I may not actually appear socially confident at all
I didn't used to think that I was on the Autism Spectrum and then.............I thought I had 'mild' AS.
If I am not completely lost (and very quiet) in a social setting I tend to be making a lot of, (if not the most amount of) noise and I might appear outgoing and extrovert to others.
Myers-Briggs saw right through this of course and tagged me as an Introvert.
So when I comes to social confidence.............I dunno
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Now then, tell me. What did Miggs say to you? Multiple Miggs in the next cell. He hissed at you. What did he say?
I am confident in my own abilities, I consider I can do anything I put my mind to, as I am also very stubborn. If I am not good at something it's because I am not interested and there for have not tried hard enough to master it. I am confident that I can handle people who try to do the wrong thing by me or dislike me for some reason or other. I am also condfident in some of my favorite areas of knowledge.
What I do struggle with is that I often think people take an almost instant dislike to me. Not too sure if this is realistic or not. However because of this I tend not to try too much especially with people that I see all the time but have little more to do with and not much else in common. One example of this is parents in my sons class at school.
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I'm nearly always confident, but then again I stay away from situations and events where my weaknesses would overshadow my strengths. If I find myself in a situation like that, I generally just shrug and say to myself, "Well, I obviously don't fit in here. I don't mind; it will be nice to go home where I do fit in."
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i am not sure i understand the concept of "confident".
i must be sure of a definition before i will subscribe to it.
i know that "confident" is defined as "assured" and "certain", but i can not see how that meaning is correct.
the word "confide" means to "reveal in secret" and one who one "confides" in is a "confidante".
you confide what you confide in "confidence" which means in that context that it is "confidential"
all these definitions are indicative of secrecy, so i can not see how "confident" means the equivalent of "ease of display of ones own ideas, and certainty of the validity of them"
but whatever. i need to tie the roots of all words i see in to their derivations before i can truly see them in a relative way to the world around me.
i see the word "confident" as meaning "self assured" by default - due to the common parlance usage of it.
so you gave these options:
no. that is a vague option. i do not "love" myself as in admire myself, but i "love" myself enough to commit extreme (potentially fatal) effort to keep myself safe if it is necessary.
it has nothing to do with whether i am sure of myself.
i am always certain of the correctness of my decisions (whether or not i am correct) so i must say no to this option because there is no days when i am not.
i must say "no" to this option because i have a scant idea of how i am considered.
i know i am not considered "over confident" because i always aim for a target that i can achieve. i never said i would do anything that i failed to achieve.
i am fully conscious of myself and i can not see how anybody can be "too" conscious of themselves.
i can see the joke in the last option, but i did not answer any of your options because i knew any answer that was available for me to give would be wrong.
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i am always certain of the validity of my intentions, and i never look to anyone else to
verify me.
no one ever suggested that i was "over confident" but most people describe me as "arrogant". they are incorrect.
a simple example is : when i am in public, i trace a linear path in my mind to where i wish to go, and i will follow that path no matter what. if some people (standing still and talking) impede me, i will stop and scratch the back of my neck and exude impatience for them to exit my path.
when they realize i am waiting for them to move, they move, and i accelerate off again through the middle of their parted gathering.
some people say i also force other peoples intellectual presence to the side in the same manner.
i know i should realize that it would be much easier to just walk around them because it is a big open empty floor with not many people around, but i can not deviate from my pre-chosen trajectory, and i wait with impatience if there is a stationary coagulation of people occluding my trajectory.
they get very ....i do not know..... they look offended or incensed or something, but they make way for me by stepping aside, and i barge through with no acknowledgment of them. i hear garbled words aimed at me as i walk off.
on a few occasions, people that i know have seen me in that mode and they think i am supremely arrogant and therefore confident.
they are incorrect. it is because i can not imagine a winding path around obstacles well that i insist they step aside to allow me to walk further in my intended way.
i wrote too much sorry.
i am not sure i understand the concept of "confident".
i must be sure of a definition before i will subscribe to it.
i know that "confident" is defined as "assured" and "certain", but i can not see how that meaning is correct.
the word "confide" means to "reveal in secret" and one who one "confides" in is a "confidante".
you confide what you confide in "confidence" which means in that context that it is "confidential"
all these definitions are indicative of secrecy, so i can not see how "confident" means the equivalent of "ease of display of ones own ideas, and certainty of the validity of them"
but whatever. i need to tie the roots of all words i see in to their derivations before i can truly see them in a relative way to the world around me.
it has nothing to do with whether i am sure of myself.
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Do you really want to know? Probably not but I'll tell you anyway.
The Latin root is "con" (with) "fido" (trust). So words built on "confide" have the meaning of "with trust". "Confidence" means you trust yourself to be able to do whatever it is. "Confide" and "confidante" means you speak "with trust" to somebody else- with the trust that they won't tell anybody, you are trusting them with information. That brings you to "confidential" where information is kept hidden away from all except those who can be trusted with it.
The common thread is trust- trust in yourself and trust in others.
i am not sure i understand the concept of "confident".
i must be sure of a definition before i will subscribe to it.
i know that "confident" is defined as "assured" and "certain", but i can not see how that meaning is correct.
the word "confide" means to "reveal in secret" and one who one "confides" in is a "confidante".
you confide what you confide in "confidence" which means in that context that it is "confidential"
all these definitions are indicative of secrecy, so i can not see how "confident" means the equivalent of "ease of display of ones own ideas, and certainty of the validity of them"
but whatever. i need to tie the roots of all words i see in to their derivations before i can truly see them in a relative way to the world around me.
i see the word "confident" as meaning "self assured" by default - due to the common parlance usage of it.
so you gave these options:
no. that is a vague option. i do not "love" myself as in admire myself, but i "love" myself enough to commit extreme (potentially fatal) effort to keep myself safe if it is necessary.
it has nothing to do with whether i am sure of myself.
i am always certain of the correctness of my decisions (whether or not i am correct) so i must say no to this option because there is no days when i am not.
i must say "no" to this option because i have a scant idea of how i am considered.
i know i am not considered "over confident" because i always aim for a target that i can achieve. i never said i would do anything that i failed to achieve.
i am fully conscious of myself and i can not see how anybody can be "too" conscious of themselves.
i can see the joke in the last option, but i did not answer any of your options because i knew any answer that was available for me to give would be wrong.
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i am always certain of the validity of my intentions, and i never look to anyone else to
verify me.
no one ever suggested that i was "over confident" but most people describe me as "arrogant". they are incorrect.
a simple example is : when i am in public, i trace a linear path in my mind to where i wish to go, and i will follow that path no matter what. if some people (standing still and talking) impede me, i will stop and scratch the back of my neck and exude impatience for them to exit my path.
when they realize i am waiting for them to move, they move, and i accelerate off again through the middle of their parted gathering.
some people say i also force other peoples intellectual presence to the side in the same manner.
i know i should realize that it would be much easier to just walk around them because it is a big open empty floor with not many people around, but i can not deviate from my pre-chosen trajectory, and i wait with impatience if there is a stationary coagulation of people occluding my trajectory.
they get very ....i do not know..... they look offended or incensed or something, but they make way for me by stepping aside, and i barge through with no acknowledgment of them. i hear garbled words aimed at me as i walk off.
on a few occasions, people that i know have seen me in that mode and they think i am supremely arrogant and therefore confident.
they are incorrect. it is because i can not imagine a winding path around obstacles well that i insist they step aside to allow me to walk further in my intended way.
i wrote too much sorry.
You didn't write too much. In fact the second part was all very interesting. If I were you, I would have picked "I come across as over confident." Because first you said that you have no idea how you are perceived, then you described a few occassions where you thought you were perceived as arrogant. So sometimes you know how people see you and you can come across as arrogant. So can I.
If I can give you some advice (whether you want it or not) If you know you're offending people by refusing to walk around them, then stop. Unless you like hearing snide remarks as you barge through people. You said you just can't imagine walking around someone or deviating from your chosen path. I think if that were totally true, you wouldn't have any idea that that's what you were doing. You seem to be aware of it, but I think because of over confidence you refuse to try to change. I know change can be hard for us though. It all depends on what is more important to you...resistance to change, or getting along with fellow humans. just a thought.
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i am not sure i understand the concept of "confident".
i must be sure of a definition before i will subscribe to it.
i know that "confident" is defined as "assured" and "certain", but i can not see how that meaning is correct.
the word "confide" means to "reveal in secret" and one who one "confides" in is a "confidante".
you confide what you confide in "confidence" which means in that context that it is "confidential"
all these definitions are indicative of secrecy, so i can not see how "confident" means the equivalent of "ease of display of ones own ideas, and certainty of the validity of them"
but whatever. i need to tie the roots of all words i see in to their derivations before i can truly see them in a relative way to the world around me.
it has nothing to do with whether i am sure of myself.
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Do you really want to know? Probably not but I'll tell you anyway.
The Latin root is "con" (with) "fido" (trust). So words built on "confide" have the meaning of "with trust". "Confidence" means you trust yourself to be able to do whatever it is. "Confide" and "confidante" means you speak "with trust" to somebody else- with the trust that they won't tell anybody, you are trusting them with information. That brings you to "confidential" where information is kept hidden away from all except those who can be trusted with it.
The common thread is trust- trust in yourself and trust in others.
thankyou for your clarification.
but i can still not tie in how "secrecy" is involved.
so if i trust someone not to tell anyone else, i "believe" that they will not.
that does not mean that what i told them i am sure is correct.
sorry i can not reason philosophical things well. i know that "con" means "with" and "fido" means "trust" (fidelity, infidel, bona-fide (good faith) etc). i know the common dogs name "fido" is a name used in antiquity that was appropriate.
but i always conceived the modern meaning of "confidence" as being "sure" and not just "hoping". also i always conceived "faith" and "trust" as being a "hope" rather than a "certainty".
i do not "trust"or have "faith" that i am correct when i "know" i am correct. i am "sure" i am correct if i "know" i am.
i am not arguing with you, but i am displaying my deficit of philosophical acuity.
but thank you for framing the idea so i can review my definition of "confidence" again.
i am not sure i understand the concept of "confident".
i must be sure of a definition before i will subscribe to it.
i know that "confident" is defined as "assured" and "certain", but i can not see how that meaning is correct.
the word "confide" means to "reveal in secret" and one who one "confides" in is a "confidante".
you confide what you confide in "confidence" which means in that context that it is "confidential"
all these definitions are indicative of secrecy, so i can not see how "confident" means the equivalent of "ease of display of ones own ideas, and certainty of the validity of them"
but whatever. i need to tie the roots of all words i see in to their derivations before i can truly see them in a relative way to the world around me.
i see the word "confident" as meaning "self assured" by default - due to the common parlance usage of it.
so you gave these options:
no. that is a vague option. i do not "love" myself as in admire myself, but i "love" myself enough to commit extreme (potentially fatal) effort to keep myself safe if it is necessary.
it has nothing to do with whether i am sure of myself.
i am always certain of the correctness of my decisions (whether or not i am correct) so i must say no to this option because there is no days when i am not.
i must say "no" to this option because i have a scant idea of how i am considered.
i know i am not considered "over confident" because i always aim for a target that i can achieve. i never said i would do anything that i failed to achieve.
i am fully conscious of myself and i can not see how anybody can be "too" conscious of themselves.
i can see the joke in the last option, but i did not answer any of your options because i knew any answer that was available for me to give would be wrong.
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i am always certain of the validity of my intentions, and i never look to anyone else to
verify me.
no one ever suggested that i was "over confident" but most people describe me as "arrogant". they are incorrect.
a simple example is : when i am in public, i trace a linear path in my mind to where i wish to go, and i will follow that path no matter what. if some people (standing still and talking) impede me, i will stop and scratch the back of my neck and exude impatience for them to exit my path.
when they realize i am waiting for them to move, they move, and i accelerate off again through the middle of their parted gathering.
some people say i also force other peoples intellectual presence to the side in the same manner.
i know i should realize that it would be much easier to just walk around them because it is a big open empty floor with not many people around, but i can not deviate from my pre-chosen trajectory, and i wait with impatience if there is a stationary coagulation of people occluding my trajectory.
they get very ....i do not know..... they look offended or incensed or something, but they make way for me by stepping aside, and i barge through with no acknowledgment of them. i hear garbled words aimed at me as i walk off.
on a few occasions, people that i know have seen me in that mode and they think i am supremely arrogant and therefore confident.
they are incorrect. it is because i can not imagine a winding path around obstacles well that i insist they step aside to allow me to walk further in my intended way.
i wrote too much sorry.
i have no idea of peoples perceptions of me unless they tell me. it is correct that i have no idea of how i am perceived, but when you say i "thought" i was perceived as arrogant, i must remind you that i am told that i am arrogant by other people, so that is why i found it out. left to my own mindset, i would never know.
i can not adequately understand that. do you mean you also "see how i come across as arrogant ?" , or do you have people who see you as arrogant in the same way as i have people who see me as arrogant?
i only "know" they see me as arrogant because they say i am arrogant.
you could not advise me if i do not want advice, but i do want to hear it.
Unless you like hearing snide remarks as you barge through people.
i do stop. i wait for ages for them to disperse. sometimes i wait for almost 60 seconds.
i do not give a damn about their utterances if i push through.
their displeasure remains in their heads and can not follow me as i walk away.
peoples negative ideas about me remind me of hyenas in a pit all trying to jump up and bite my throat, but they can not get out of their enclosure to hurt me. i feel unconcerned as i head away from their pit.
no i said i can not imagine it well
yes because i replay scenarios in my mind later on, and i see then how i acted.
i can not imagine easily a path around a thrombosis of people, but i can imagine it with effort.
i am cranky that i have to expend the effort in recalculating my path, and on many days i refuse to do so.
i have unresolved ODD as well, and i may recalculate my intended walking path a few times at different locations of "people obstructions" before i refuse to do it again.
i become impatient that there are so many people in the world and they all get in my way.
it is like trying to walk up your street to go to a shop, and encountering a barricade ( a fenced off meeting for example) that forces you to think of alternate routes which require you to go back and select another set of streets to walk on which is a much longer route to get to the shops.
i will do it, but if i encounter another barricade on that alternative route, i will barge through it.
everywhere i go, there are always people in my way and i wish they were not there.
i do not realize rapidly that people are not going to move so i will wait for them to move for about 45 seconds until i say "for christ's sake" and navigate with much effort around them.
those that do move, i walk through, and i do not look back, but i do not say "for christ's sake " at them, which is their reward as far as i am concerned.
i am not "over confident". i am just wanting to get my chore of walking to where i want to go done without impedance.
i do not care what people are thinking when they are in their little groups chatting away.
i do not need to know them and they should step aside and let me pass by.