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17 Apr 2013, 4:11 pm

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This is the reason why, whenever I take tests like these, I try to just think carefully about what they're asking and how it really applies to me. Then I just answer as honestly and objectively as I can. It's affecting what I and others think is true about me, after all.


I think this is a problem in self-tests. Context and perceiving the context is important to answering (which is noted as a trait that people with ASD often take statements/questions literally). Questions like: 'Are you drawn to tables of sports/stock information in the newspaper" could be answered "No" right away due to a not caring about stocks or sports, but if you think "Are they asking me if I'm drawn to any tables in general or specifically sports/stocks?", due to the context of the question the latter would be more accurate, and the answer could be "Yes" if you are drawn to tables regardless of the information. If a person with ASD has learned to read into context vs one who has not, the answers could be completely different between the two. Those sorts of questions seem unprofessional, where someone who is licensed would give a broader and more clear example, especially where a diagnosis could concern an impairment in answering such a question.

This is why, at best, the tests are a possible indicator only and not concrete. The Aspie quiz basically takes common traits of people with ASD and has you scale them to your own experience, which makes it a bit more unique and straightforward vs some of the other tests. It is more or less a check-list vs an actual test, that doesn't make it more or less valid as an indicator though, if you have many of those traits ASD can be possible or likely.

So, short answer is that they're not very accurate as a self-diagnostic, however some of then are based on actual tests and the results might merit getting checked out by a professional if it concerns you.


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17 Apr 2013, 10:52 pm

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I always found even though I scored sky high on all the Aspie tests (only one regular WP member scored higher to my knowledge) I still don't see them so much as a measure of Autism/Aspergers but as a measure of introversion. Most questions had to do with whether you enjoyed doing X alone and I already was well aware I am extremely introverted. Still no doubt whatsoever I have AS but the online tools are just a start.


I got pretty high scores myself, and thought the same thing. Then I got my friend to do the tests, she is severely introverted and socially phobic, but she did NOT come up as Aspergers, whereas I did.



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17 Apr 2013, 10:55 pm

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They could be accurate, they could not be accurate. I wouldn't use an online test as a basis of your diagnosis though. There are also a lot of symptoms that are other conditions/disorders as well so you may want to do some research before falling onto AS. But that's just my opinion.

Mine, too.

Only an appropriately-trained mental health professional can make a valid diagnosis of AS/ASD.



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18 Apr 2013, 6:45 am

Thank you everyone, following this i asked a health care professional in my family (Master in psychology) and he told me not to be concerned by all this. I might have traits but am far from this zone.



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18 Apr 2013, 6:49 am

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[...] on the Aspie Quiz and about 42 on the AQ test.


"80% of adults diagnosed with autism spectrum disorders scored 32 or more, compared with only 2% of the control group."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_quotient

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But now comes the "funny" part about it:
Immagine that just 1% of all people have ASD compared to 99% who are NT (have something else).

80% of people with ASD would also just be approx. 8:1.000
compared to 2% of all people with NT, what would be approx. 20:1.000
who score at least 32 points in the AQ-Test.

What would mean that your chances being in the autistic spectrum, if you score at least 32 points in the AQ is just approx. 28,6%

That's also a good explenation why so many people get missdiagnosed with disorders, they don't have. :wink:
I'm not saing that you don't, but think about it that way!


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18 Apr 2013, 9:13 am

crazycoders wrote:
Sorry for reopening this thread but i was wondering if these scores to 3 popular tests are any worth in diagnosing Asperger.

AQ : 29/50 (Asperger quotient) (32 or more indicates possible asperger)
EQ : 23/80 (Emphatic quotient) (33 or less indicates possible asperger)
FQ : 49/140 (Friendship quotient) (78 or less indicates possible asperger)

I wonder if i should consult for possible Asperger diagnosis with these kind of numbers...

What do you think?


The last one, how does 78 or less indicate possible as when the average NT female scores around 75 and the average male around 57?



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18 Apr 2013, 9:22 am

If i refer to the stats given, there is an overlap between normal and possible. You could just have mild traits and still be considered normal. I guess that when you complete go into the most severe portion, you could actually start considering serious consultation...



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18 Apr 2013, 9:25 am

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If i refer to the stats given, there is an overlap between normal and possible. You could just have mild traits and still be considered normal. I guess that when you complete go into the most severe portion, you could actually start considering serious consultation...


What do you mean? That the average person has mild traits?

I scored 86 the first time and 67 the second time



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18 Apr 2013, 9:51 am

crazycoders wrote:
Thank you everyone, following this i asked a health care professional in my family (Master in psychology) and he told me not to be concerned by all this. I might have traits but am far from this zone.

Well, there you have it - your suspicions have been discounted by an appropriately-trained professional.

Of course, you could always seek a second opinion ... or a third, a fourth, a fifth, and so on until you get a diagnosis you like.



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08 Aug 2013, 4:52 am

I'm in my early 30s, male, and have always felt considerably different than the others - generally disinterested, unattached, withdrawn, etc... But the internet changed all that - I found I could talk to thousands of people far more easily than I could talk to one... though I was still unable to work cooperatively with them... too many personality conflicts.

Anyway, my scores:

AQ: 42
EQ: 9
FQ: 13

I took the tests multiple times and answered the questions to which I felt multiple answers applied and had, surprisingly, pretty much the same scores. My lowest AQ score was 41. EQ didn't change a lick, and the FQ - I actually only took once... though I was in an entirely different category than the test seemed to consider for the questions of concern.

Reading more and more about the childhoods of Aspies, I am really quite surprised by how well my childhood correlates... My wife has a psychology degree (and is experienced with Aspies) and agrees that I am probably a highly adapted Aspie.

Anyone else with similar scores (Aspies or not?). Also, would it be worthwhile to seek an official diagnosis? I feel I can mostly manage fairly well (though I've never held a normal job in my life... that would be impossible...).



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08 Aug 2013, 6:43 am

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Probably high enough for screening purposes and as a part of the diagnostic process.


I'd find it ironic that a doctor would dismiss how you score on multiple "self assessments" for AS when they'd take you seriously if you suspected you had cancer based on a "self assessment" test.