Has anyone ever done this to you? What's it called?

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21 Nov 2009, 11:42 am

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Suppose that you are talking to two or more persons. They are standing side by side, and you are standing in front of them. You accidentally say or do something that one of the persons finds "strange" or "unconventional", and that person responds by lightly elbowing the person standing next to her, in a covert manner and while maintaining eye contact with you, so that you don't notice that she just elbowed the other person, as if alerting that person that something's wrong with you.

Does this non-verbal gesture have a name? If so, what is it?



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21 Nov 2009, 1:09 pm

Jest-ure topic

If these NTs know you are clueless, then they think you did not notice what they did.

I would personally loathe two people standing together like that and talking at me. Seems creepy.


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21 Nov 2009, 1:23 pm

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Yeah... It's called NT douche-baggery! They're making fun of you.


Yes, exactly, good word for the idiots at work that I have to deal with 'douche-baggery'.

They are so full of their crud nudges and winks and backstabbing. And no I was not on to it, I'm not sure how I finally learned. I think reading a lot and also I have a small workplace and so I finally got it, I guess.

I was diagnosed pretty late in life with AS, but even later in life with being clued in to these jerks who don't understand I'm different.

I've begun looking them in the eye and saying something, and they back off. They don't expect me to talk back, I guess.



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21 Nov 2009, 5:12 pm

It doesn't necessarly have to be an unkind thing. How about a scenario like this:



Jane, Karen, and Jim all know each other and are socializing. At the moment, Jim is standing somewhere else and only Jane and Karen are together, talking to one another.

Jane (looking over at Jim): He's so funny. I don't know what it is about Jim, but I really like him. He's a good guy.

Karen: Yeah. You know, he's a real expert on Ancient China.

Jane: Oh, I know! In fact, have you noticed that no matter what the conversation is about, he finds a way to connect it to Ancient China?

Karen: Yeah, and he gets that twinkle in his eye when he's talking about it. It's like he suddenly lights up. It's kind of cute.

Jane: Tee hee! You're right! Oh here he comes....


A bit later, they are all talking about the state of the local school district, and Jim suddenly lights up and makes a comment about how school was conducted in Ancient China, becoming energized and animated. Karen gives a little nudge to Jane, as if to say, "See? There it is! There's that cute thing he does!"



It's not negative or hateful in this case. They like Jim, quirks and all, and they enjoy seeing the way he gets when he talks about Ancient China. It's part of what makes him Jim.

If Jim sees that, and wonders what it means, then, if Karen notices that he looks confused, she can say, "Jane and I were just talking about how much you know about Ancient China, and how all kinds of other topics make you think of it. We think that's really neat that you have such a strong interest. Your whole face lights up when you talk about it. That's why I gave her a little nudge, because I just notice that you were doing it."



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22 Nov 2009, 9:58 pm

they will pretty much be making fun of you every time



22 Nov 2009, 10:28 pm

I could put this in one of my stories. The nudging thing that is.


Doris nudged Ruthie and whispered.

"Oh look at Kit, see how bratty she is, so jealous of her sister. I wonder when she will grow up?'



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22 Nov 2009, 10:36 pm

If I'm having a conversation with two other people and I make a statement and I notice that one nudges the other I know that what I just said is being mocked, I just don't know why.



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22 Nov 2009, 10:42 pm

My first thought was, "Does the person have a tic or something?"... so I asked my husband. His first response was that it could be a signal for the other person to say something like, "Oh we have to go now, I have an appointment" so they could run away. But he says there could be a million reasons for it, it depends on the situation... some being not so bad signals like what elderwanda said. But what do I know... I was thinking tics. Heh.


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22 Nov 2009, 10:49 pm

dossa wrote:
My first thought was, "Does the person have a tic or something?"... so I asked my husband. His first response was that it could be a signal for the other person to say something like, "Oh we have to go now, I have an appointment" so they could run away. But he says there could be a million reasons for it, it depends on the situation... some being not so bad signals like what elderwanda said. But what do I know... I was thinking tics. Heh.

Well, when they are also smirking, that's not a good sign.



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22 Nov 2009, 11:15 pm

Mw99 wrote:
Suppose that you are talking to two or more persons. They are standing side by side, and you are standing in front of them. You accidentally say or do something that one of the persons finds "strange" or "unconventional", and that person responds by lightly elbowing the person standing next to her, in a covert manner and while maintaining eye contact with you, so that you don't notice that she just elbowed the other person, as if alerting that person that something's wrong with you.

Does this non-verbal gesture have a name? If so, what is it?


its called the "what are you doing???" gesture I think. Its done in the manner that, what you did was socially unnacceptable and you are perceived as not know that its unnacceptable. and because of it you are a completely ret*d, that you will not see that person nudging the other :roll:



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22 Nov 2009, 11:43 pm

sartresue wrote:
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If these NTs know you are clueless, then they think you did not notice what they did.


When people do stuff like that around me, I sometimes notice and do know what it means, but I pretend not to notice. If I do notice, they might invent more sophisticated gestures I might not detect, and having the appearance of obliviousness allowed me to gather more information about them. Gestures can be learned, you just have to notice every detail about a person and know the context of the situation and the relationships between people. We CAN learn it, we just learn things in a different way than they do.



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23 Nov 2009, 4:33 am

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I have now idea, but on the few occasions I've been in that situation they usually just turn to talk to each other and I'm left there on my own, do I walk off or stand there?

That's when I would pretend to look mildly interested in something else and walk towards it and away from them. >_<;; I've decided that it doesn't matter what you're "supposed" to do, what matters is weather or not you want to drag the situation out when you know it's not the most friendly situation you could be in. If they're being rude to you, it means they won't want to talk to you in the near future, so there's no point sticking around.
(haha maybe I'll remember to take my own advice next time I'm in a situation like this. It's definitely harder to think of the best option when you're actually there.)


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23 Nov 2009, 8:53 am

"The Nudge" could be an episode of Seinfeld.

Ooh! That reminds me of something I'm going to start another thread about.

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23 Nov 2009, 9:33 am

They were makeing fun of you. I've had that happen to me, many times. It still happens, once in a while. It got really bad, when I was working in this factory, 10 to 14 years ago. I've started hanging out with some younger girls who happened to be from a rough city, close to the city that I live in. They were very worldly whores, to put it nicely. They knew how unworldly I am, so they started asking me, "Do you drive? Do you drink? Do you smoke? Do you smoke pot? Do you have sex? Have you had sex? Do you go to parties? Have you ever kissed a man? Do you want a man? How would you like to come to the bar with us, sometime on a Friday night on pay day? You might meet a really nice guy!" A really nice guy to do what with? To shag with? No thank you!


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23 Nov 2009, 1:13 pm

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They were makeing fun of you. I've had that happen to me, many times. It still happens, once in a while. It got really bad, when I was working in this factory, 10 to 14 years ago. I've started hanging out with some younger girls who happened to be from a rough city, close to the city that I live in. They were very worldly whores, to put it nicely. They knew how unworldly I am, so they started asking me, "Do you drive? Do you drink? Do you smoke? Do you smoke pot? Do you have sex? Have you had sex? Do you go to parties? Have you ever kissed a man? Do you want a man? How would you like to come to the bar with us, sometime on a Friday night on pay day? You might meet a really nice guy!" A really nice guy to do what with? To shag with? No thank you!


omg, I've had that. You can't shut them up when they get started :? :x



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23 Nov 2009, 3:14 pm

If we practice the Nagual way of the Toltecs, we will not assume and never take things personally and in that way we will be able to erradicate poison in the world with which we send evil in the world or create hell on earth while we could have heaven.


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